[Help] Cores are getting high temps HOT - Repaste questions - AW15R3

Hi guys how are you doing?

Fisr, my laptop is AW15R3. I would like to repaste it with Thermal Grizzly LM Conductonaut

So a while ago i did a repaste with some regular paste (i guess it was grizzly kryonaut).

The laptop worked great for a while. But these days, my cores are getting high temps. I can feel the hotness in the notebook keystrokes

I've decided to do a repaste cause i just bought the new COD WW2, and when i played, my cores got at 100 celsius !!! and then, the notebook turn down.

Im planning to follow the original guide of @iunlock >> http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...5r3-disassembly-repaste-guide-results.797373/

Question:

1) Do i have to isolate the cores with that black tape???

2) I use to travel a lot with my laptop in a case. Is there a risk to the LM go to other parts to the laptop, and damage it?

3) How long the LM works? i mean, how often should i replace and to a new repaste? Or this isnt necessary with LM ?

****4) IF ANYONE HAS A NICE VIDEO TUTORIAL IT WOULD BE GREAT !!!

@Vasudev if you can help too



Thanks guys

 

Hey I wouldn't go for LM straightaway. IIRC, you have 7700HQ with 1070, right?
You travel very often and sometimes carelessly putting in the bag in a hurry may spill the LM. You might have to use foam dams like @Falkentyne @Mr. Fox recommends.
Tell me which paste did you use and what temps are you seeing in HWINFO? I think its summer in Brazil? I use CPU performance mode now due to high ambients now 35-45C inside the room and outside its really hot in my village, so naturally the cities will have more temps.

 

Don't put LM on fully locked down BGA chips. They don't run hot when properly cooled with a properly fitted heatsink and decent paste. These chips can run 3.4 ghz at 1.0v. Better to save it for hotter running HK chips.

 

Also Kryonaut is pertty terrible paste in these machines, if the heatsink is slightly uneven you already will have huge pump out, the viscosity of Kryonaut is just too low. Kryonaut is only nice on larger dies with perfect heatsinks.

Currently using Phobya Nanogrease extreme, which works pretty well. Still want better though but I dont want to risk it with LM.

 

my AW15R3 is gtx 1070 with 6820HK processor. In HWMonitor normal use (without games) im getting around 50-70. Sometimes 40. But yesterday when i tried playing COD ww2, i got overe 100 and then the notebook turn down.

Guess i wont use LM, since i travel a lot

I think i used artic silver of something similar, since it was the only one avaible here on Brazil. Now i see that there is kryonaut and other brands.
Do you think it is better to use grizzly KRYONAUT?

Also, how do i see if im CPU performance mode or not? and how do i change it ?

Also: dont know if i have to update drivers and if this will affect. Also using the SSD NVME 960 EVO


@rinneh so kryonaut isnt good? i always saw users saying good things about it. This phobya nanogrease extreme, can i find here in Brazil or some website that exports to Brazil ?

Thanks guys !

 

You can check this thread out http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...nd-apply-traditional-and-liquid-metal.806840/
@Vistar Shook is from Brazil too.
I personally use CM Maker Gel Nano, dunno if it can keep temps in check when OC'ing since I haven't tested.
Because of 6700HQ which is non OC BGA, the temps are good enough for me because my ambients are too high like Brazil.
Kryonaut needs perfect HSF contact like LM for best perf.

 

The problem with Kryonaut is when you ahve an imperect heatsink, it will sort of dry out.

Also make sure you have one of the revised heatsinks which definitely will help.

CPU performance mode can be checked in bios. But that mostly means a more heavy fan profile and not much more. I dont recommend using it.

 

Even in CPU perf mode, I barely hear the fans spin on daily web browsing, movies/videos,photos. Only on gaming I hear the fans. So 70% its silent.

 

In the Aw15R3 and AW17R4 they never turn off in CPU performance mode. They keep spinning at a low RPM.

 

Ohh that really sucks. I thought you returned 15 r3 and settled to use 15 r2. What did you do with 15 r2?

 

Thanks @Vasudev and @rinneh for the tips.

Guess ill try another paste, such as Phobya NanoGrease Extreme or this CM Maker Gel Nano.

Also @Vasudev and @rinneh : how do i know if i have to change my heatsink or not? If so, which one should i use? Is there a topic explaining which heatsink and how to change it?

Thanks guys

 

one of the best cheap alternative to Kryo is Cooler master Nano or ICD 7, im curenly on ICD.. trust me nothing works better on BGA thn this one, Yea i dont mind the tiny little scrathches, as if im gonna open everyday and see it for beauty factor.. thats the true fact.. Yeah kryo sounds good on paper, when it comes to weak heatsinks ICD or nano or even Arctic MX works better..

 

Like Vasudev mentioned, I live in Brazil as well. Perfomancesolutions.com.br has phobya nanogrease extreme but as usual for our country, very expensive. I got some on Ebay but you just have to be patient because it can take a very long time to arrive. That particular paste is hard to find, not only in Brazil, for example, on Amazon it has been out of stock for a while. I personally had much better results with Kryonaut, and haven't experienced what others have seen, with drying out and such. You can always opt for the tried and tested Innovation Cooling Diamond that vickygameboy mentioned and works well on uneven heatsinks, or Gelid GC Extreme, one of the best before Kyronaut - both can be found at mercado livre. Now that I tried Conductonaut, I doubt I will ever go back to traditional paste on a HK chip.

 

Even Gelid extreme is a worthy mention like Vistaar said. If you can't sand or lap the heatsink then I would recommend ICD 7.
If you lap the HSF you will best perf. from the paste and better OC too. Top it with undervolting to reduce 5C and elevated back will reduce temps by another 5-10C for free.

 

thanks very much man (valeu ai cara de verdade hehehehe...vou mandar uma msg privada).

@Vistar Shook and @Vasudev = how often should i repaste the notebook and open it to clean coolers??

I just remembered that i did the repaste ABOUT 11 MONTHS AGO + USED GELID GC EXTREME.

Do you guys know how often should i do a new repaste?? i mean, how long until it get dry again??

And @Vistar Shook and @Vasudev = i was going to LM conductounaut, but some people said since i travel a lot isnt safe.... thats for real ???

thanks everyone

Finally @Vistar Shook = did you replaced the heatsink or did something with it??



@Vasudev = when you said:

I didnt understood what u mean. Could you explain what should i do and how to do it with heatsink, so i can reduce those 5-10C ???

 

I like to tinker so I repaste every 6 months to a year, but really it is only needed when temps start to climb again, which varies between each machine, depending on heatsink fit, how much use, type of paste, etc.
Since I live in the boonies of Goiás, it is very very dusty so I clean the fans every month or two.
About replacing the heatsink, I don't have an Alienware at the moment.

Enviado de meu Pixel 2 usando Tapatalk

 

I will repaste only if the temps are 10C off than usual taking ambients into consideration like @Vistar Shook said.
Even after a year my temps are the same as Day One repaste w/o any degradation. I switched to CPU perf. mode since its summer here and temps are usually above 30C.
Maybe you need to optimise W10.
If you use a Stand or Cooler it will reduce temps by 5c-10C.

 

thanks @Vistar Shook

@Vasudev how do i switch to cpu perf? is it by the fn+f7?

and what do you mean by optmize the win 10???

i did a repaste today, now getting 40C normal use and in cod ww2 i got max of 75..77..... used the GC gelid extreme

 

You need to go into BIOS to change CPU perf. mode in Advanced section.
Optmised W10 will consume less energy when idle maxmising your battery runtime and performance whilst gaming,rendering etc..
Did you spread the paste?
40C is a little high when your ambients are <30C. If 42C is temp obtained when you have a browser and other background activity then its good.

 

I always had idle temps of between 40c & 60C. The fans dont kick on in that range. So the laptop slowly becomes warmer and end up at 60c.

edit: ment idle temps not ambient

 

WOW that's frigging hot. Yesterday we had temps of 40C and rooms were super hot making it tiring to sit or stand.

 

Ambient temp up to 60C And the laptop end up at same temp?

"Ambient temperature simply means "the temperature of the surrounding air"; in a room it is the temperature of the air in that room"

 

Sorry I ment idle temps.

 

On idle with ambients of 35C, I noticed core temps were hovering around 30-35C, once I open browser, music apps and some more apps core temps rise to 42C-45C

 

For a moment, I thought you were Superman when you have ambients above 40C by not melting/sweating yourself.

 

I cant survice 35c for 15 minutes haha!

 

Your laptop manage to run 5C below ambient

 

How could you manage to get that low temp? With 30-35*C ambient, the lowest core temp I could get is 45*C. Nomally it stays at 50-60*C.

 

Even I am confused by this but its true when cpu is idle consuming 0% cpu cycles. Like I said, when apps are opened, temps rise to 45C which is similar to @tungd678 temps.

 

Idle or with 0% cpu cycles. It doesn't matter Can my CPU temperature be less than room temp? Heatpipes and air cooling doesn't work like a refrigerator or Phase cooling. Even a completely shut off Computer or your furnitures will stay minimum on ambient temp. And you talk about 5C below with a booted up laptop

 

I think you misread something. 45*C is the temp when I'm not using anything. When running apps or browsing, it's 50-60*C. I never get below 50*C when running apps

 

@Vasudev and rest of guys: my computer, using chrome and with a lot of tabs opened, right now are around 49C-50C.

And i repasted on monday, and spread the paste very nicely... GC Gelid Extreme i used.

EDIT: just changed CPU to perf mode, now temps are getting around 50C too. Also while using chrome and some tabs opened

 

Maybe I can show you guys my PC's temps via Teamviewer.
If you switch to Firefox what's your CPU usage? I hate Chrome and love Chromium but switched to FF Quantum.

 

just pmed you...maybe you could show me your temps?

also right now in CPU perf, sometimes the temps flickers to 70C and then comes back to 60-50C

 

lokoroxbr
what were your temps while iddle?