[i7-6820HK] Overclock Settings for 4.0GHz to 4.3GHz (Stable)

I can get as high as 1.5v + when tuning 46x and 47x....right now I've been playing with 47x, but of course not at those volts lol.

 

I think you misunderstood. One benchmark was a +200Mhz overclocked GPU on both the memory and core clock speed. The other was at stock clock speeds on the GPU.

Both tests were overclocked on CPU. One produced higher temps because it had increase temps off the GPU being overclocked.

I tested a 3rd spec today by turning off the CPU internal graphics card and using an external display and got -5C more on the 4.1GHz benchmark (highest temp of 82C instead of 87C)

I incorrectly stated that I lowered my GPU speeds but I meant I lowered them BELOW my overclock but never below stock spec lol

There's tempurature bleed from the Intel GPU, the nVidia GPU and the 4K UHD display that effect the benchmark score and temp of a laptop.

Absolutely loving this computer.

 

HAHA I realized that i have to upvolt to reach 4.2Ghz and above.

4.1GHz runs at a -0.015v undervolt.

4.0GHz runs NICELY at a -0.55v which lowers temps like crazy - giving me higher internal GPU scores.

I can get even LOWER temps turning off the integrated GPU and only using nvidia and using an exteral display only so going to run more 3dmark benchs with that now - might be fun playing with the higher CPU voltage too!

I do have the Alienware Graphics Amp as well with a GTX 1080 FTW - but sadly the one I got suffered from the first round of problems from evga so it's under RMA. new one has tracking set to arrive on tuesday so that should be fun

 

Oh' well. You might miss understood my question. I will Retry. What is load voltage for 6820Hk @ Stock Clock? And Oc level 1 - 2- 3 ?

Unified heatsink is unwanted. None of the ODM / OEM's should use shared heatpipes between cpu / gpu in any laptop. Idiotic!! Better with proper heasink for each one. And iGPU is as well unwanted (at least for me )

 

What makes you think that I would even bother with using the rubbish stock Dell OC profiles? Absolute Dell rubbish.

Also, you should already know this answer from being in these forums. It's nothing new.

What are you intentions? To find something else to re-pick at?

Yes, we all know the 6820HK's run rich...very rich...And?

I agree that unified heat sinks shouldn't be used, but for whatever reason they are. I'm sure they've tested this and have found it to be optimal? <- Maybe there's a reason, but from the temps that I'm getting...it sure seems to be working with flying colors....so even though I do agree, there's nothing there for me to even question about the heat sink on the new AW

You do realize that Optimus can be turned off right?

 

I have to agree with you there. It's not the best design, I'm curious tho if independent heatpipes yielded lower results.

I could forsee a future gaming laptop actually have a thicker bottom end for larger independent heatsinks.

Still ---- turning off the integrated GPU lowered everything by about 5 degrees cranked up to max.

My 3DMark Score went up by 120points almost just turning off the internal GPU - but for some reason it's reading as "Generic GPU" now

I hit 5801 on the laptop GTX 1070 chip - not even the GTX 1080 haha!

Now i just need to figure out how to validate this score of 5801 LOL

 

HAHA yeah I didnt try running my inital benchmarks with that off LOL

My 3dmark score popped up to 5801 when i turned it off. But it's invalid cuz it says Generic GPU now Any idea why it thinks it's generic?

On a side note im REALLY curious how 3dmark would bench with the graphics amp GTX 1080 + 4.7GHz 6820HK cpu (turning off the internal all together and using egpu). I'll know next week once my new one arrives from RMA with eVGA

 

It was about time Dell reintroduced mux switch. But I am totally opponent of iGPU on high performance laptops. Can you answer my question? Or do I need to ask one more time? Sorry, but I do not think I've seen how high the stock load voltage is on these BGA chips in AW machines.

 

Here you go robot. There have been numerous OCCT screen shots posted so that is why I am surprised that you would even be asking LOL... Sound to me that you're just trying something else to nitpick at.

"Sorry, but I do not think I've seen how high the stock load voltage is on these BGA chips in AW machines." <-- Uhh really? SMH...

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ures-benchmarks-alienware-17-r4-15-r3.797378/

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...16-owners-lounge.797457/page-10#post-10373668

Go look...many many posts...many many screen shots...

Stock

 

The settings are variable. I like the stock settings for daily simple tasks.

I was in a meeting the other day that didn't have access to power and so I set the whole laptop to stock CPU and used the mixed graphics chip mode with integrated and it got almost 7 hours of battery out of the machine!

This really is the best every day laptop I've owned because it's super powerful when I need it to be but if I need to run it highly efficiently it's more efficient than my old 2013 model MacBook Pro on battery which only lasts about 3.5 hours anymore after 3 years (and battery can't be replaced hahaha)

So that's why they have integrated chips is to give you options depending on your application and change them on the fly!

The option is much appreciated for me when I need it

 

It's definitely a plus to be able to use this machine in various scenarios, but for most when opting for a gaming laptop the battery life tends to be toward the bottom of the list of importance....However, getting fantastic battery life out of a gaming laptop is great....that's like a big truck getting 40MPG...kudos to that.

The reason a lot of folks don't like Optimus is because of the past where it was not switchable....so being forced with that left a sour taste in a lot of peoples mouth, hence why even the thought of it makes one cringe.

The batteries in the MBP can be changed out quite easily. But I get your point.

 

I'm

I'm more trying to justify to myself completely ditching my MBP

I am suggesting any current MBP owner tho pick up the new skylake ones if they are reliant on an MBP - or wait for next years Kaby Lake MBP. There's some nice thunderbolt 3 peripherals out there as well as Thunderbolt 3 eGPU boxes so by all means the new MBP is a great itreation in the series. I was ready to switch tho about a year ago and now im just justifying only using my iphone as my only i-device and using this Alienware as my sole computer For work and play

 

The new AW makes for a great all around machine, but I do prefer OSX over Windows. Linux is great on the AW, but it still lacks the support compared to OSX. Being able to use an eGPU with the MBP would be nice.

 

I believe there are some egpus out now for the MBP and could use a GTX 1070 with one!

Apple should've followed Razer tho and built a slim GTX 1070 laptop that is a lot faster. Sad that the new machines only have a Radeon pro 460 in them max but a Skylake chip that overclocks to 3.5GHz for most people will be a welcome upgrade on the new models

 

Yeah. The huge news this year from Dell is that the new line AW laptops finally comes with G-sync. Not too early. To put it nicely Dell had no other option than to creep back and reintroduce switchable graphics. Otherwise, they would have had major problems with selling their models as gaming laptops

 

The 120Hz monitor option doesn't even have the option for optimus so it's out of the picture completely, which is good as it just utilizes the eGPU.

 

Yes exactly the same way as older AW17 with 120Hz 3D panel. The main reason I chose the 3D panel

 

Yeah I have, I've tried the same settings I used on my old r2.

All cores set to X40 and power limit 1/2 at 100000.

its annoying tbh as I repasted the laptop and the cooling is good enough to overclock it much more than the r2. I will reseat the ram when I get home and see if that will solve the problem.

 

Nice. Keep us posted and good luck!

 

Desktop Kabylake K overclocked on air up to 5.1ghz, temp 30 idle 46 under load.

There are some sense to wait 1q2017 for new cpus.

 

Tried resetting the ram and it made no difference.

I found out the only way I can get 4ghz is to set the multipliers to X44 but it would only hold its clocks for 15 seconds during a benchmark or stress test which is great But half the time when I reset the laptop and then check the clock speed it's reverted back to 3.6ghz.... plus I've got that weird core temp difference you were explaining about in another thread iunlock

 

Have you tried default settings in bios and then re-flash bios? Or even tried the Beta bios?

 

Yeah I've tried resetting to default in the bios and I've tried the beta bios, no joy at all, I reverted back to the old bios and it's still the same.....:/

 

And you have tried both TS and XTU? Maybe load Xtu, make a Oc profile. Try it and then uninstall XTU. See if this can trigger the bios. And as well uninstall ACC and force high performance in Win power plan. Don't make own power plan.

 

Yeah I have tried XTU, TS says CPU not supported... I already have it on High performance mode in the power plan and I have checked the CPU power state as well.. ran out of ideas tbh.. a 6820HK which wont over clock lol

 

You used latest TS version in @unclewebb's sig? Maybe I have missed your posting.. But same with all Oc profiles in bios as well? Tried without ACC and if Dell delivered... Uninstall any Cpu related driver for cTDP or a name similar(also known as programmable TDP or TDP power cap)? I don't remember exactly the driver name.

 

Hmm...if he has tried all that then perhaps a reset?

Unplug your CMOS battery and plug it back in to start from scratch?

::iunlock::

 

Curious question, might be a no brainer...

No matter what I set in the bios:

1-Core Ratio Limit Override: 41
1-Core Ratio Limit Override: 41
1-Core Ratio Limit Override: 41
1-Core Ratio Limit Override: 41

Core Extra Turbo Voltage: Left this at 0

Power Limit 1: 100000
Power Limit 2: 100000

When I login this page is set to "Enable Turbo Boost Short Power Max"

and the "Turbo Boost Max" is set to 45.00W and not 100.00W

When this happens, it ends up "Power Limit Throttling" my CPU when i run any tests.

When I turn Turbo Boost Short Power Max Off and change the Turbo Boost Max to 100.00W it doesn't throttle at all.

Should I try to have Short power max enabled or no? Either way i need to have turbo power max at 100 all the time to keep speeds up to 4.1 on core and cache.

 

Finally got it overclocking properly now, it just powered on today running at X40 and been working since.

Temps however are a bit high so a repaste will be done tomorrow, any advise on the application method? Pea dot, line or using a card to smooth the paste? as I know the method is a bit different to desktop repasting. I'm going to use grizzly kryonaut btw.

Any info would be appreciated

 

If you check iunlock's threads and GT62VR official thread, (use search) then you will find some the best practices.Long story short: He recommends to apply paste evenly with some spreader then another extra dot in the middle of the already pasted area.Mainly for CPU.

 

I managed to get my 6820HK through a 2-hour stress test running at x40 only after raising the extra turbo voltage, but I end up getting a bluescreen as soon as I load my GPU. Any idea how to avoid this? I'm currently stuck at:

1-Core Ratio Limit Override: 39
2-Core Ratio Limit Override: 39
3-Core Ratio Limit Override: 39
4-Core Ratio Limit Override: 39

Core Extra Turbo Voltage: 0

Power Limit 1: 100000
Power Limit 2: 100000

 

It's interesting I'm still getting a higher XTU score at 4.0 GHz over 4.1 GHz but obviously that's also because max temps don't break 76C at 4.0 for me undevolted.

Have you tried running your xtu score at 4.0 undervolted on liquid metal to see if it breaks 1388? Liquid metal is what seems to give that crazy difference in heat transfer and power

Tho my max temps are the same as yours at 4.1 and 4.3 so I'm not sure I understand how the xtu benchmark is even scored

 

undervolting can help, repasting of course, not overclocking the Cache. Leave that at 3.6

I'm able to overclocked my CPU and run at 4.2 internal and 4.4 with the graphics amp so this is abnormal.

You can adjust the turbo boost in xtu as well, see if your core temps are equal across all 4 cores within 5 degrees too.

Use hwinfo and see what's happening.

Also check the windows event viewer when it blue screens and see why it does this. Could be GPU related only and not CPU.

 

XTU is not a very good benchmark test. The Score will be too much influenced by faster RAM. Even with slightly higher Overclock on your processor, you risk lower score than one that tests with faster RAM and lower OC. Not correct core voltage for your Cpu can also affect the XTU score Wprime 1024M stress test - Cinebench R11.5 or R15 is a better benchmark test!!

 

I did a repaste which dropped my maximum core temp from ~95C to ~84C, but still with one core peaking at 63C. Should I contact Dell for a replacement?

 

With what paste?

 

I used Thermal Grizzly Kyronaut. My temps are definitely better, however not only am I unable to OC past 3.9GHz, but also that max core temp delta of ~20C bothers me...

 

I have been using wprime to experiment with OCing to 4GHz. I'm noticing throttling after a short period of time - I think this is due to hitting TDP. Do you guys raise TDP in the BIOS? I have not changed that though I did click "enable" (Clevo BIOS).

 

How are you turning optimus off?

 

Also my laptop doesnt oc over 3.58, has anoyone found a fix for this? it is really annoying.

 

Maybe start reading post #1 in the thread?
BTW welcome to the forum

 

I've already entered the bios and changed all my settings to operate at 4.1 ghz but my cpu doesnt go over 3.58

 

And you followed the whole guide?
As in the picture.

 

Yes, followed everything just seems to be stuck at 3.58. No idea why it does not go up to 4.1.

 

How did you get it to work?

 

Thank you for posting this guide! I repasted with CLU and made a custom fan table in HWiNFO. For reference I set all 4 multipliers to 42, left voltage at 0, set the other two to 100000. Passed WPrime 1024 on 8 threads. Really hoping it's stable.

 

Anyone notice there fans being much louder with a customized over clock? For some reason my fans are super loud on idle even with Temps in the 40s. I didn't turn on the performance fan mode either. If I set it back to default they chill out.

 

Yes same here...
I've set it @ 4,0 GHz (4 x 40 and 100000 in BIOS) and fans are a bit loud even when my temps are below 40°C (about 3400RPM).
If I hit the HWInfo fan button "system auto" they go quiet but kick back a few secs later.

Doesn't happen in standard mode, even with similar temps.

 

im gonna try this with my clevop650rs-g

 

NVM popped up ty.