[i7-6820HK] Overclock Settings for 4.0GHz to 4.3GHz (Stable)

Yes, I would roll back.

Rule of thumb: Never upgrade to the latest BIOS with Dell. Newer does not mean better, like it is with M$.

Roll back to 1.0.2 if you're on the 6820HK AW.

 

Damn, that's a ways back. They sold me on 1.0.12 saying better cooling or performance for the 1080.. one of the two. Anyway, I got 1.0.2 downloaded. Gonna flash it in a bit and see if it fixes it. Thanks for the help guys. I'll let you know how it goes.

 

Yea, unfortunately, with the track record of Dell's bios releases, it is absolutely for certain, that newer does not mean better.

They are working on to improve the leakage of these faulty bios's, but for now it is best to stick with what we know works...tested and proven.

The for sure fail proof bios that just gets the job done is 1.0.2 ...1.0.6 will work too...

So for 1.0.2, you will have to manually set the power limits in the bios and may have to use XTU to set the PL2 to match PL1. Then you can use XTU for light tuning and/or TS for more in depth tuning.

I would also try 1.0.6...the power limits seem to stay put that you set in bios so this could be an easier option for you.

The only thing that differs are the fan curves. They are both aggressive, but 1.0.2 is a tad bit more aggressive.

Try 1.06 as well and see how your power limits react.

 

Damn, that's a ways back. They sold me on 1.0.12 saying better cooling or performance for the 1080.. one of the two. Anyway, I got 1.0.2 downloaded. Gonna flash it in a bit and see if it fixes it. Thanks for the help guys. I'll let you know how it goes.

Thanks for the info. 1.0.6 sounds a little more user friendly. I'll try that one first.

 

The bad news: 41 on the cores and 100k on the PLs crashed on start up and OC lvl 3 crashed not long after I got to my desktop.. the good news is I was able to get HWInfo open before the crash and saw that my clock speed was 3.9, so I think we're on to something.

I'm gonna leave it there for now. They're sending me a new rig, so I'll pick this back up when I receive it. My temps are so high I reach 90 Celsius just thinking about overclocking. Thanks again for the help.

"The cpu will only reach 4.1 GHz if one core is engaged. If more than one core is in use, it won't pass 3.6" pfffffffff get that **** outta here.
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Hi there!

No Alienware here, still you guys really seem to be into ocing, so I`ll ask you for advice:

I started OCing my 6820 in an Aorus X7 DT V6.

Using Throttlestop I upped the "Long" AND "Short" "Package Power Limit" to 75 Watts and a "Core" and "Cache" offset of +30.3mV

I can run Prime 95 Version 26.6 with 4.1 on all cores at about 87°C. / Prime 95. Version 28.10 will downclock to about 3.5 allcore (due to AVX I guess).

These settings allready give me a quite satisfying score:



Upping to 4.2 Ghz allcore will cause a freeze.

I could just lean back and think "o.k." / On the other hand, you know the saying: "It`s not maxed till it`s maxed"

Any thougts or suggestions?! Thx in adavnce!

Best regards

phila

 

Do not starve your processor if you want higher clock speed. Too low core voltage will only lead to crash. Pump up core voltage if you want to try higher clock speed. Start with +20mV on what you already have. And max out all power limits.
Start to test your cpu with wPRIME v1.5 (Run as adm, select 8 threads in advanced settings and fire up 1024M stress test. Follow up the clock speed and temp with HWiNFO64 Do the same afterwards but with higher clock speed. Then run Cinebench R15 again.

 

Hey! Thank you for your advice!

How far can I got with the Power Limits? Like 100W Long Package Power?

Best regards

phila

 

Max out if you can. Power limits is only as stated a limit. Too low and the processor can't reach max clock speed. But you can start with 100W or max out.

 

Hi! I need some more Help! The 4.2Ghz work well for a while. Then I get EDP Limit on Ring and Core in Throttlestop limit reasons? In fact the Core clocks down to 2.7Ghz.

Could you please tell me, what that is?!

Best reagards

phila

 

And you upped all power Limits? If they are too low, multi will decrease after a while.

 

I upped Package Power Limit Short and Package Power Limit Long.

I upped core and cache voltage as you said.

Any more?

Best regards

phila

 

As well increased iccmax aka Primary plane power limits in TS? I don't remember-know what extra Oc settings the AW Echo your laptop model have in Bios.

 

Double post

 

No, I did not do this. How high should I increase this (iccmax aka Primary plane power)?!

In Bios there is not to much of OC possibilitys I guess. Gigabyte does this by integrating XTU in threir system software.

Thx for your Help.

Best regards

phila

 

Try it 350. What have you put Pl1 and 2 ?

 

Oh,oh... Where Do I do this Package Large and Small are set, but PL1+2?

Thx

phila

Edit: I wonder if it has something to do ewith thorttlestop itself. Runing Notebook with th factory OC 4.0-3.8 Ghz works. Just now I started Throttletop (with clean ini - a.k.a Watch Mode) and it game me Limit Reasons and downclocked...

 

I had to bump up the voltage +.030mv to get a stable 4.2, while 4.1 was fine at default voltage, and 4.0 was achievable at -.025. Seems like once you get to 4.1, it needs more juice to keep up the speed. I would highly recommend a repaste before going over the 3.8 or 3.9 area.

 

PL1 and PL2 is similar Package Power Limits(short and long) in ThrottleStop. Put in 350 for short and long Power Limits + the same for Primary Plane Power Limits in the window below in TS. If you use Xtu integrated into your machines software, don't use or run both Oc software same time. You risk only conflicting between them.

 

The main Problem was XTU and TS at once I guess...

The bad thing is: Aorus is ocing through XTU only.

This is not as good as with AW - where you can use Bios.

I had to disable the Aorus Software.

Now everything seems to work nicely!

Thy very much for your patience!

Best reagrds

phila

 

How do you control the fans if the command control software is disabled?

 

As the actual fan profile allways is persistent,I wrote 2 scripts (*.bat):

- one to "disable XTU & enable Throttlestop"

- the other one to "disable Throttlestop % enabl XTU"

Then I linked them to the Start Menue.

If I want to game, or do intensive stuff, I activate the first one.

If I want to use silent mode or do desktop stuff, I cativate the second one.

Best regards

phila

P.S: If you are intersted, here is the link to the scripts https://1drv.ms/f/s!An6sVWggT749hvQq21SYESPNwmO4ZA

 

That's really cool stuff!
I have the x5 v6 and when I uninstall command control the fans don't ramp.

I have my overclocks setup on xtu and override the aorus/smartmanager/cpuoc/ settings. What I'd like is to change the auto fan curve to hit 100% fans at 90 degrees or below. Under 90c I only hit 5145 rpm. Max is 5600. Then I can have a higher overclock with faster fans in the 80-90c range.

Do you know how to change the fan curve? I've checked the registry and can't find a setting.

 

We must not highjack this thread... Let`s hop over to the Aorus Sub Forums, o.k.?

Within my limitations I answered your question there:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/aorus-x7-dt-v6-owners-lounge.804181/

Best regards

phila

 

Does anyone know the best settings for OC 7820hk? PL1/PL2 and Core Extra Turbo Voltage to 4.3/4.4 GHz?

@iunlock what settings do you use for 4.7GHz?

 

Hello new to this thread and forum but I have a query about my 6820HK which doesn't like to maintain its OC frequency, BTW my laptop is a PC Specialist Defiance III( CLEVO P65_P67RSRP I believe). This problem with my 6820hk is it doesn't stick to the OC frequency and always jumps from 3.19ghz- 3.4ghz and then maybe to the set 3.8ghz OC frequency even when windows high performance mode is enabled(which is meant to stop Intel speed-step and stop it from down-clocking) but most times it just stays at 3.4ghz or less. It doesn't do this when on the normal 4 core boost of 3.19ghz and when using simple stress or benching methods such as CPU-Z bench/stress test.

I know normal CPU down-clocking is good and saves power and lowers temps BUT when I do need the full performance such as when during productivity task or gaming it doesn't seem to maintain its OC frequency and I know its not thermal throttling as thermals are within low 70s and mid 80s during these times which is safe and if it was it will just simply down-clock itself to stock 3.19ghz without moving or changing back. Any advise on how to stop this behavior would be grateful thanks.

 

I'm running 4.2 Ghz 70W/90W with -100mv undervolt, this keeps my cpu under 80C with LM
If i go up to to 43 any undervolt is unstable and cpu go up to 85Cish

 

-100mV is a nice high undervolt for 4.2ghz, there must be some undervolt lower than that (higher?) that will work at 4.3ghz? Even -10mV can help.

Although we all like quiet laptops with fans running slower than audible, when at high OC and load you kinda gotta set the fan curve for high airflow at the high OC to get lower temps.

And, although we all like the temps below 90c, you can still get performance benefits for stable operation up to 95c - even a little thermal throttling won't kill all the added performance.

Intel seems to think up to 100c is ok, who are we to tell them differently

 

Wow, with my 17r4 6820hk + LM + fujipoly without undervolt get better results. Stable at 4.1Ghz max temp 65-68c. Now, Dell sends a 17r4 7820hk model to replace my 17r4 6820hk... with this new cpu I expected to be able to reach 4.4Ghz as less...

 

are the temp from pure CPU stress test or CPU + GPU test?

 

Pure cpu stress test. Disabling iGPU and using AGA the CPU temperature is even lower. 58-60c

 

How do I disable igpu? and what is AGA?

 

Connecting the graphic amplifier.

AGA = alienware graphic amplifier

 

Is there anywhere that translates those BIOS settings into XTU settings? Trying to get 4.2Ghz on the 6820HK GT83 but that means using XTU instead of the AW BIOS. (hitting a hard CPU bottleneck in FFXIV, i'm at just below 60FPS in some areas so every smidgen of a gain counts xx)

4.0GHz core and 3.6GHz cache is stable with a -40mv offset
4.1GHz core and 4GHz cache is stable with a +10mv offset, but i could never seem to get to 4.2GHz core

 

Use -100mv offset, and 42 on all 4 cores, and 230w max on power and turbo power instead of 45w max. don't worry it won't come close to using that much.

and use msi afterburner to oc your gpu, i get +150 core and +500 vram on my gtx 1070 on my laptop, and rivatuner, to monitor framerate, and cpu speed. i get 4.2ghz entire time while gaming, but something like hwmonitor will show it downclocked to 2.9 when you alt tab to check, newest rivatuner you can get from guru3d website, its awesome

 

That's a 7820HK, i have a 6820HK, a completely different beast in the sense that it doesn't OC nearly as well xx;

Dropping the cache OC and giving a 40mv overvolt has stopped it from instacrashing on alt+tab at least.

 

Hi can i have your overclock guide for i7 7820hk and gpu 1080 for alienware 17 r4 ? @iunlock

I am running at all core 4.1 and core voltage offset at -100.mhz

Do you have anymore accurate and better recommendation ?

 

Hi, I have a 6820hk too in msi gt73vr (almost the same)

With an unlock bios, I achieve 4.2ghz core stable, 4.2ghz cache

I'm still fine tuning but my setting in Bios are +60mV (one game crash in 4h gaming)

 

Hey there!

I can achieve allmost same values. Yet I decided to stick with 4 Ghz CPU (-65mV) and Cache (-15mV) rather than having 4.2 with +65mV.

The power consumption and the heat generated does not justify the 5% improvement in my oppinion.

In fact I run most of my games with 3.5 Ghz Core and Cache (-75mV) and untervolted 1080 (875mV).

Best reagrds

phila

 

I agree with you.

I stick to 4ghz on daily. Stable, cool and and fast enough.

4.2ghz is just for benchmarking and overclocking fun

 

A couple interesting things. at 41 my laptop is not stable at OC3 is this grounds for a replacement from dell as it cant hold OC3?
Have you found that around core 40 and extra turbo voltage 1000
power limit 100000
that the fans run a full tilt even tho the temp is 35-45 Degrees? The laptop is idle cpu usage 10-13%
Any reason for this?
If i clock it lower the fans do wind down and periodically wind up.
OC3 windows crashes as does anything set in bios above that.
I also so when testing in XTU it hits the power limit throttling allot.
I get in XTU 1244 is that good?

 

Help here! What are the best OC settings for 7820hk at 4.3 and 4.4 GHz?

 

I hope you've heard of something called the...


Max out all power limits settings, and play with voltage. What work for others, doesn't mean it will work for you.

 

Hahaha Yes I know. I ask because since the last update of Win10 something changed, because with the same OC settings used, now the CPU works unstable ... For example, in 4.3ghz, when I execute a stress test, the frequency drops from 4.3 to 4.0, 3.9 or 3.5 and then go back up to 4.3 ... and so on all the core...

 

And you use same power plan as before? Remember M$ Morons screwed up and placed Balanced power as default plan (only option in power plan) for Crematory Fall Fail Update. You have to change it yourself. In full constant load as with CINEBENCH R15 and wPRIME 1024M stress test, shouldn't your clocks drops at all. Run those test and follow clocks with Hwinfo64.

 

I found these errors in the Event Viewer:

The speed of processor 3 of group 0 is limited by the system firmware. The processor has shown this reduced performance state for 71 seconds since the last report.

The speed of processor 6 of group 0 is limited by the system firmware. The processor has shown this reduced performance state for 71 seconds since the last report.

The speed of processor 5 of group 0 is limited by the system firmware. The processor has shown this reduced performance state for 71 seconds since the last report.

There are a lot of these messages ...

I use this OC settings...

For 4.3GHz
1-Core Ratio Limit Override: 43
2-Core Ratio Limit Override: 43
3-Core Ratio Limit Override: 43
4-Core Ratio Limit Override: 43

Core Extra Turbo Voltage: 0

Power Limit 1: 230000
Power Limit 2: 230000

 

These errors has been with us long time. Doesn't necessarily mean the processor don't run as expected and that's mean something is wrong. Did you change Power plan to (Max performance) and run mentioned tests?

 

It is a fresh installation... yes, I use Max performance...

 

can you send me your power plan?

Go to cmd (run at admin mode)

powercfg-l
powercfg –export “%UserProfile%\Desktop\powerplan.pow” GUID

(Ej powercfg –export “%UserProfile%\Desktop\powerplan.pow" 8c5e7fda-e8bf-4a96-9a85-a6e23a8c635c.)

 

I think it will be incompatible because of different hardware.