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    Alienware 13 (2016) Pre-release discussion thread.

    Discussion in '2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17' started by CATALANOpunch, Oct 25, 2016.

  1. CATALANOpunch

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    Where do we go to talk about the new 13? They made owner's lounges for the 15/17...but not the 13...
     
    CATALANOpunch, Oct 25, 2016
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    not released yet
     
    Mobius 1, Oct 25, 2016
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    i think it was removed. i found the thread you talk of via google search yet when i clicked it it took me to this site but there was an error which linking it to this thread means it was removed. me also, is interested in the th aw13. it will be my 1st AW. i ordered the 15 but cancelled in favour for the aw13 because it has a form factor im used to in 13-14". plus i dont want to downgrade from a 1070 to 1060, i think that the performance will be felt, so just rather have it outright. so if theres anything sites about it or threads on here. just point me to it.
     
    sisqo_uk, Oct 25, 2016
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    Hey folks, an owner's lounge for the new 13 model will be created once this model is released.
    Owner lounges are just that, places for owners of said model to discuss. And since this model is not yet released, well you get the idea..

    If you wish to discuss about the yet to be released 13 model, feel free to continue here (accepting title change suggestions to reflect that though).
     
    katalin_2003, Oct 25, 2016
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    I'm thinking of picking up the new 13 any idea when it's released?
     
    Gadget goblin, Oct 25, 2016
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    Was it mid November I think? It was mentioned on twitter or was it on twitch? Eh...long day...tired :p
     
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    Umar from AW on twitter said November 1st it will be available to order, OLED option will be there day 1,
     
    CATALANOpunch, Oct 25, 2016
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    Was it ever clarified that the 13" would have both 2.5" and PCIe for storage?


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    faustiano, Oct 25, 2016
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    No 2.5 - PCIE/M.2 only
     
    CATALANOpunch, Oct 25, 2016
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    I think it will have a 2.5" bay that can either have a 2.5" drive or the 2X M.2 adapter just like the current model.

    The new AW 13 is a little bigger (WxD) than the current one. Would not make sense to eliminate the 2.5" bay.
     
    ThatOldGuy, Oct 25, 2016
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    That would be awesome if they had that - I think the conversion required an adapter though didnt it?
     
    CATALANOpunch, Oct 25, 2016
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    Yes, which I would swap in if the new one has the 2.5" bay, that way I could just pay for the cheapest storage option. (you could get the adapter from dell too if you call around, but thats a huge hassle)

    Ultimately, thermals on the CPU will probably be determining if I stay with my current OLED R2 or not. I expect the GTX w1060 will be plenty cool.
     
    ThatOldGuy, Oct 25, 2016
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    It should be available for order pretty soon, around the 16th of November. I may purchase the AW13.
     
    J.Dre, Oct 25, 2016
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    Been tweeted that November 1st it will be available.

    Can't wait to see some thermals; hope you post a review
     
    ThatOldGuy, Oct 25, 2016
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    maybe you'll get a nuclear bomb for free with every aw13r3?
     
    Mobius 1, Oct 25, 2016
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    Even better. I'll post something!
     
    J.Dre, Oct 26, 2016
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    ah which twitter page? can't seem to find anything on the alienware twitter.

    and was this only for the 13? not the 1080s for the 17?
     
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    Umar Khan's Twitter

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    ThatOldGuy, Oct 26, 2016
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    It seems like dell is updating the Alienware page. The 13 pictures are getting swapped. We might get the 13 specs later today


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    Djangi, Oct 27, 2016
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    Link? US site is unchanged
     
    ThatOldGuy, Oct 27, 2016
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    They implemented a new navbar.
    If you check products -> laptops -> View all laptops ( http://www.dell.com/en-us/gaming/alienware-laptops?~ck=mn) you can see the new 13 image and description, the config is still old though.

    Btw, I'm returning my new 15. Got my eyes on the 13 again.

    Edit: they reverted back to the old images/description.
     
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    Just to let you know, once you get OLED, its really hard to go back. Haven't even turned on my AW 17 r1 in months.

    I assume the new AW 13 will have DDR4 Ram? Also, if the cooling is good enough, the GTX 1060 should be overclockable above a GTX 980 desktop?
     
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    where about on the page you looking cos im seeing the old aw13 next to the 15 and 17. it looks nothing like the build of the others even if it doesnt have the lights on the side. plus if you check the hinge its exactly like the 2015 model. it doesnt look like this on the new one to come. prob be up by weekend since the 1st is on tuesday but i do hope sooner.
     
    sisqo_uk, Oct 27, 2016
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    Yeah, now it is showing the older one, but when he posted, it was the new one. Still it had the old specs and everything, it was just a picture. And we already got plenty of pics and specs from the product page that they put up 1-2 weeks ago (since also taken down).
     
    PMF, Oct 27, 2016
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    i don't see anything. the whole alienware website is down.
     
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    One of my main complaints with the 15 r3 is the mediocre quality of the 4k panel, so OLED certainly has my interest. How long have you been using the 13 r2 OLED and what is your experience with burn in ?
     
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    I haven't seen anything about the ram but it will probably be ddr4. The ram speed options depend on the cpu, lets pray for that 6700hq.
    Concerning the 1060. I've read that the specs might differ per manufacturer, they might downclock it to make keep the temps down. Judging from what I've seen with the 15 that won't probably wouldn't be necessary. The 15 doesn't seem to have any trouble cooling the 1070, it's the cpu that is overheating.
    They might stick to an i5.
     
    Djangi, Oct 28, 2016
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    Really looking forward the new 13... very conflicted on going for a 13 with i7hq and AGA or 15r3...
    I'm going to miss al storage options of my p870dm but I can compromise :)
     
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    They reverted back to the old content again.
    Concerning the lighting, all of the (leaked) promo footage shows that the new 13 doesn't have side lighting.
     
    Djangi, Oct 28, 2016
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    If you don't might the size/weight you should go with the 15. It doesn't come with an oled display but the specs are great. The AGA is a good compromise but based on what I've read on this forum it's not flawless. It like SLI 10 years ago, when it works it WORKS, but when it doesn't it can be pretty bothersome. Lots tweaking.
    If you do decide to go with the 15 you might want to know that there are overheating issues with the 6700hq en 6820hk options. The tweakers on this forum have shown that this can be resolved by repasting and undervolting but if that isn't your thing, you might want to wait until Dell/Alienware addresses these issues
     
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    It will be DDR4, here is a PR site for the 13.
     
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    Oh wow, thanks for sharing this. Although this product page doesn't reveal the cpu options we can deduce from the memory options that it's very likely that there will be an i7 option. The i5 6300HQ is limited to 2133MHz memory.

    Edit: I see it gained some weight. The previous (leaked) product page claimed that the new 13 is about 2.2 kilos, it's 2.6 now. Very heavy for a 13 inch.
     
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    Thanks for the suggestion, I'm really leaning towards the 15 inch.
    I've used the AGA in the past and worked good enough with the 17r3
     
    Kurosama, Oct 28, 2016
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    I have no firsthand experience with the AGA, so you probably know more about it than I do. I wanted to try it out with my A15 r1 but since it died a premature death I never got to try it out.
     
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    There is a Kaby Lake Core H processor that is quad-core. Let's hope it makes it to the AW 13.
     
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    Been using the OLED since August. No burn in, been using the "auto-hide" task-bar, and slideshow desktop background features to be safe though. Really should never have any burn in as long as you use those two features.
     
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    How did you find this? Even this is new to me.
    Anyways, looking over it, it looks like
    • Both AMD and Nvidia GPUs are offered. Likely the RX 460 for the AMD option.
    • Only CPUs mentioned are HQ
    • Has Dynamic Overclocking? However, the description only says it'll keep the CPU and GPU in Turbo state.
    • DDR4 RAM up to 2667 MHz (2667 MHz is reserved for the i7-HQs in the bigger laptops, so that confirms an i7-HQ for the 13 R3).
    • Dimensions are as follows.
    HEIGHT (LID-CLOSED): 22 MM. (0.87 IN.) TOUCH, 24MM. (0.94 IN.) NON-TOUCH
    DEPTH: 269 MM. (10.6 IN.)
    WIDTH: 330 MM. (13.0 IN.)
    AVERAGE WEIGHT: 2.6 KGS. (5.8 LBS.)
    • OLED screen is the only touchscreen among the screens provided in all the Alienware laptops. That means it's also the only with with a glass panel.
    • Looking at the renders of the internals, it has 3 total heatpipes.
     
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    Looks like a single M.2 slot too; could have 2.5" bay next to battery (cut off in image?). They say they have one

    "WE OFFER CONFIGURATIONS THAT INCLUDE SSDS AS THE MAIN BOOT DRIVE WHERE YOUR WINDOWS OPERATING SYSTEM IS STORED FOR QUICK, FAST, BOOTS AND A LARGE HDD AS A SECONDARY STORAGE DRIVE WHERE YOU CAN CONVENIENTLY CHOOSE TO MANAGE AND STORE YOUR MEDIA, PHOTOS, MUSIC, OR OTHER ARCHIVES."

    Interesting that they say SSDs with an "s" cant see them fitting another M.2 slot. Maybe reference to the 2.5" SSD bracket?
     
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    Also the whole thing is 1.7" deeper than the current AW 13

    Only mention this because that makes it too big to fit in a standard 13" neoprene sleeve
     
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    Either that or the 13 R3 has 1 M.2 2280 slot and 1 M.2 2242 slot.
    However, reading that, I wonder if Alienware copy-pasted some text from the bigger laptops' pages.
     
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    The removed info page showed two full size m.2 slots.


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    When they had the initial product page up, it said SSD-only storage. However, there were mistakes on that page (dimensions for one) so we will just have to wait and see.

    Definitely no Kaby Lake to start with though, they are not going to take orders in 4 days for something that will only arrive in December at the very best.

    Usually the glass/touchscreen adds several hundred grams, so that probably accounts for some/all of the difference we've seen so far weight-wise. I agree that 2.6kg is really pushing it for a 13" though. The Aorus X5 weighs that much, with a 6820HK and 1070 (and 15" 120hz screen, 4 slots of RAM, 2.5" drive and 3 M.2 slots). Unfortunately the Aorus runs hot and loud as a result, and has no AGA or even TB3 for an external graphics dock for additional longevity. Still, it feels like there should be some middle ground between the two options.
     
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    Depends on the specs, newer isn't always better. Only one way to find out.


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    Thanks. Good to know.
    The panel warranty will decide if I go oled. Also the availability in The Netherlands.


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    Build quality is as important to me as specs, therefore I will never buy msi or gigabyte.


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    so excited reading all this info. Haven't looked forward to buying another laptop since last year. One week to go and I should of ordered what I want hopefully


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    Just looking around lol, was suppose to get a P870DM2 but found out im deploying in about a month again so trying to get an AW13 before then.

    Here is the link for the New AW13 Splash page (not updated yet)
     
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    Better buy the macbook pro 2016 cause that thing is a thermonuclear device
     
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    _Delete_...Sorry working from a phone right now.
     
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    the laptop looks amazing !!! without the edges tron i dont like on the other models ... when i have money this is going to be my next laptop
     
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