NEW!! Alienware Area-51M LAPTOP!! (to replace alienware 15 and 17)

Wish that didn't die out on laptops, seems super handy to have in a pinch

 

I'm also worried about the speakers. 2.0 config so no subwoofer. The youtube video said they're loud but let's see if they have any bass.

Yes! I wish the Area-51M had this. Such a useful thing. Especially on a big screen like the 18.4" M18x.

17.3" is a good size for this too. Now we have to use capture cards.

 

So it's on a BOOK and that BOOK is on your lap, not your DTR itself. That's what I mean. With a normal laptop you won't need to use anything cause your balls can be toasted. Not because you can means you should. Yourself are staying it, you're not recommending it to anyone, why try to defend it ?

You're using a PC in a LAPTOP form factor that CAN be used on your lap, but you do not recommend it to anyone to use the laptop on your Lap for WORKLOADS where it is DESIGNED for. Someone that does not know PC/laptop well will use it on it's lap. And when they can't they automatically it's a PC. A laptop is BTW also a PC but still PC gamers hate laptops. It's not the name, it's all about the form factor.

 

No I'm not using a book. Check the pics. I've used a book before when benchmarking but using it on my lap is fine. A book is needed when using it on the bed itself because the bed blocks the vent, lap it fine. I also don't want someone to try something like this using a laptop like the one in your sig because those won't survive hence why I added the book thing. You'd be surprised how many people will try this when they see my pic. Gotta keep the RMA's down lol.

The temps you see in game are from the laptop on my LAP.

Normal laptop don't cause your balls to be roasted? I have a macbook pro late 2013 , that roasts my balls, the M18xR2 doesn't. I hardly use that thing because my "normal" laptop reaches 99C and throttles even after a IC Diamond repaste.

 

Alienware's CRAZY upgradeable laptop

 

You clearly have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. This form factor that dell has created is so much superior to MXM in any way chape or form. Due to the connections being on the actual card itself makes newer ports possible with enwer generations and the fact that the display is being direcly connected via the card and not motherboard like we are used to on MXM provides actual plug and play compatibility. If someone had thought about a design like this instead of MXM, we would have M15X notebooks with RTX support.

 

They also mentioned having a store in late February or so to allow users to buy the cards. So if you bought a RTX 2060 , you can buy RTX 2080 directly from dell and swap it yourself or have a technician come to install for you.

LOL he said 2080Ti in the video. 99% sure that's incorrect.

 

yummy!!

 

At least if LM starts running around, it wiil stop at the Aluminium foil lol

 

We all need to wait to see how this machine will perform, heat - power management and what real frequencies can reach. LM will be more risky to use with this fully aluminum chassis and I think we will find out how to deal with this later on.

 

@Dr. AMK

First barrier GPU foil, second chassis LOL (I re-read you post *facepalm*)

 

Yes, but we have @Mr. Fox and other senior members can figure it out , we need to convince Alienware to give him and Prema team a sample that they can play with it and pull the best performance from it.

 

I should have asked them to send me one during the reddit AMA lol

 

DGFF is proprietary and carries royalty,cost of R&D and finally PnP. The upgrade will be expensive.

 

Fair enough. If my priorities were similar, I would opt for the Clevo too for obvious reasons. What I tell people is that the sport of benching is no different than one playing a game. Different cars for different needs.

Clevo has been superior with hardware, but not build quality. MSI has been superior for their focus on using good binned parts with some emphasis on tolerance levels, but very poor with the chassis and material. Any of these ODM's could pull it off if they wanted to. If I was HP, I would throw the biggest surprise the industry has ever seen with a fully capable system without restrictions. If they really wanted to enter the laptop market, this would be their secret weapon to put them on the map.

I too have my eyes on Clevo and MSI though out of the bunch, because Asus looks like they are going the innovation route right now, while Clevo and MSI seem to have something cooking behind the scenes. If Clevo just puts a little effort into their build quality, it would destroy everyone in the performance category, assuming that they don't gimp the bios like they have... I know that they know who Prema is and if they were smart, they'd make the bios a priority for guys like him who can work the magic on that end.

We're in for an interesting ride... we shall see how it all unfolds.

The intricacies of business is what keeps things the way they are. Where we're getting fortunate is with the releases like the Area 51M, that will force others to react. The more we can support these modular offerings, the better it will be for the future roadmap. For that, I'm grateful that out of left field, AW stepped up to lead the march...

This Resurrection is a big deal. Very excited that it's real.

 

Hey stranger lol jk.

Regarding the DGFF, we have to keep in mind that MXM is dead so that's why AW/Dell took things into their own hands to even make it possible, because going the MXM route would have been a dead end, which it already is, was and is, is and was lol..

At least with their own design, they have the freedom to build around it. Also, with being such a big company like they are, the supply for the cards will likely be plentiful.

As long as there is support all around, AW/Dell might have a good thing going for them with this design.

Only time will tell...

 

If it was based off EMC2 standard and other alliance then DGFF will be good, otherwise for Dell DGFF in terms of sustainability, creating drivers for specific custom made GPUs etc.. will be expensive for a OEM to maintain since games come out like Pizzas on peak days. If another companies like Apple,HP,Clevo,MSI etc.. will adopt DGFF then it has a chance otherwise it'll be deprecated.

 

There's definitely a point to that. The nice thing is that even if 2080 is where it caps, at least the ability to replace the GPU will be there even though it's proprietary. I think the supply will be abundant, but we shall see...

Another thing nice about the modular design is that the cards tend to be much better binned than the bga counterparts, so there's that going for it as well.

 

@Rei Fukai , I’m just confused on what you are trying to explained. I’m so lost.

 

i'm confused about what you just typed ? what was i trying to explain, and what did i explain. Maybe you read it too fast, or you're mixing things up. I'm no grammar nazi and i don't judge anyone, but your comment is not even English. It's also not American, so maybe if you read it slower, or more carefully (and do the same thing with typing) it maybe become more clear. Or what i typed was completely BS but you're the first one to comment on it so...

 

So ocing will be locked up to 139 watt ? they just moved the line from the 110w a little, so it would give them more lee way for the 8 core's but i don't think it will run 5Ghz all core.
a shame, the more details come available the more dissapointing it becomes.

What about ram ocing/memory timings, any info on that by any chance ?

 

Certainly not the i9-9900K. I think the far better choice in this thing would be the i7-9700K.

 

Agree i think that even the 8700K would still be a solid choice. There are almost no games that uses more than 4 core's let alone 6 or 8 ! but the 9700K would be my prefered choice, due the disabled hyperthreading.

 

Looks like you start buying the area 51m today. But with the 1070 and 1080 with automatic upgrades once available? So would anyone trust Dell to honor something like that? Like if you get the 1070 are they gonna let you uograde to the 2070 for free?

And it looks like you start with the 8700 and not the 8700k. But it's only $100 upgrade to the 9700k.

 

Ugghh the lack of screen options ....I don't even want a 4K as I'm all for QHD, but FHD just
makes such power houses so lopsided IMO. Especially with the current gen of GPU's ...

As for the upgrade yes... basically when it ships it'll be shipping with the 20 series.

 

I mainly game so I don't really need a 4K screen (I find it rather overkill on such a small panel), but QHD is a nice sweetspot imo.

 

I just came across some info about wireless mechanical this morning. Check out the Cooler Master SK 600 series wireless mechanical KB.

The web page says, "The boards can be used wired over a removable Type-C USB or through Bluetooth 4.0" - https://www.legitreviews.com/ces-20...duces-first-wireless-peripheral-lineup_210066

 

Looks like a banging keyboard, After developing two years on my standard microsoft keyboard it starting to break down. This keyboard seems like a nice replacement, but i'm still torn cause i also do like the Razor Chroma keyboard. But i want a wireless mechanical keyboard. Typical first world problems lol

 

Yeah I feel the same way. I really want a QHD for one of these. There is confirmation on a 4K display down the road. The industry is all about pushing for 4K so I think we maybe out of luck for a QHD panel. Mines going to be hooked up to an external display most of the time so I'll deal with 1080p 144hz.

So this is basically them saying it's up for preorder? If that's the case why not just say RTX 2070 and 2080?

Nice find. I'll be looking into this with alot of interest.

 

More like overclocking will be blocked because of the 139W limit.

That said, I suspect it will run 5.0GHz on all cores with no load. But, it will drop to at or near stock clocks as soon as you put some stress on the CPU. If they also have EC regulated total system power controls--this firmware cancer is almost a given considering the well established fact that idiots are almost exclusively in control of notebook firmware engineering--it may also throttle the GPU to avoid letting the system use more power than they deem appropriate.

Dell/Alienware has always seemed to have some sort of weird hangup against memory overclocking, so I'd be really shocked if they did anything to facilitate that. Some might say they are shocked that they are using a desktop CPU and use that as a basis to hold out hope for change, but the 139W TDP limit everyone is talking about shows how they remain disconnected with reality and really haven't done the necessary homework for it to be truly awesome.

Nice find. Power cords are fine, display cable almost a necessity. But, it's nice if it can end there. Hardly anyone likes a tacky rat's nest of wires, even with desktops. Forget cable management, cable elimination is better. Cut the cord! Run wild and free.

 

Not sure if these have been shared: teardowns!

says exclusive but see the other one


Homer

 

I don’t see it on their website. Link?

 

Linky to new A51m: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/cty/pdp/spd/alienware-17-area51m-laptop

BTW: Why not a 2TB spinner with a 2x 512MB Boot RAID? Gives you about 1TB for downloads and 1TB for a live backup for when the RAID poops out...

BTW BTW: Know anyone that will trade me $5,000 for a kidney or something easier I could grow back?

Homer

 

119W with max load on Cpu/Gpu 136w in Cpu processing tasks.

What 139w limit power cap?

 

Looks like the 8700 and 9700k pricing are inline with reality, the 9900k price is absurd though. The 8700 is a $300 processor on its own, the 9900k is $525 at microcenter. That is a $225 delta, NOT $450. Way to be Dell.....Clearly buy with the 9700k and upgrade yourself (if you even need to - I probably wouldn't - don't want/need Hyperthreading). Currently it looks like all 3 processors get you a 180+240 PSU setup. No config options for RAM yet is odd, seems the page is maybe not yet complete. Price is steep, no shock there, but not unattainable. I will definitely continue to keep an eye on all of this.

 

It might be the case that different GPU and CPU configurations get different heatsinks. In the case of the i9-9900k, it might get the one with 8 heat pipes, which would add to the cost of the CPU.
That being said, the same thing should happen if one gets, say, and RTX 2080, so my theory could be wrong.

 

I hope they only have one heatsink design. They did different heatsinks with the M18x and it was a pita if you upgraded to the xm CPU later on (3 heat pipe vs 2)

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I dont think so. That would make upgrading GPU problematic, and they are touting the upgradeabilty pretty heavily.

 

I was surprised to see the 9700k as a resonable upgrade. I kinda expected it to be a $300 upgrade and the 9900k to be $500. So that's slightly good news. The psu situation has me concerned. Regardless of what setup you pick it seems to only give yoi the 180+240 option. I'm hoping you can just choose that as an option. I'd rather not have to buy a 330w seperate.

 

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Did you order one?

 

No ... lol I’m waiting to get it from the outlet hehhe

$2600 is tooooo steep ATM

 

I hear ya. I gotta put some things up for sale here myself.

 

Well, according to the configuration page, " Load-balancing Heat Pipes: The dynamics of thermal activity across critical components like the GPU and the CPU are intelligently discharged across various dedicated and shared 8mm and 6mm copper-composite heat pipes. The highest-end configurations carry 8 total heat pipes." (Emphasis of my own.)
Unless every configuration is already the highest-end, then there exists a heatsink with less heat pipes. I wonder if the upgrade service Dell would provide would also include upgrading the heatsink as well.

 

says a guy who owns a clevo while bashing it LMAO, comedy gold all over.

as will be their "excuse" to force you buy another machine down the line, i think you're the one have no idea whats going on in the market.

you dont need to defend so hard against cancer hardware. if they dont have consumer in mind, its not good for us.

 

Good find, and that is a bit of a downer. Here is to hoping a 2080/9700k would get the bigger setup as that is my likely build I would get.

 

Good Eye. That's a shame if so. I wonder if "high-end" constitutes either CPU or GPU, or maybe both.

 

I don't see the point of praising upgradability and at the same time selling different heatsinks. It makes no sense...
Hope it's not the case.

 

Just ordered mine.
Went loaded on all options except drives, chose 512 m.2 as I plan to place my own 2tb m.2 and 7.6TB sata ssd myself.

 

Also, there is this:

Selling it with different HS, doesn't mean that upgrades will be more complicated, it just means that they will be more expensive (since you must pay for the HS too).