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    *OFFICIAL* Alienware "Graphics Amplifier" Owner's Lounge and Benchmark Thread (All 13, 15 and 17)

    Discussion in '2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17' started by Mr. Fox, Dec 10, 2014.

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    Managed to score a 3080 ti fe from scan, it's in with a be quiet PSU, ***** to dremel to line up the power plug but well worth the hassle, I am massively bottlenecked on the CPU. I7 6700hq but I'm loving it. 70 fps on Valhalla max settings 1440p internal screen. Easy driver install. My laptop will now last a while!! Very happy and thankyou to this community for giving me some info on power supplies and case mods appreciated @illuMinniti @Mike 06 @Juan Phoenix
     
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    Oh I guess I was living under a rock. Great news the 3000 series now works with the AGA.

    Anyone have a recommendation on a PSU to use? I have an AGA sitting around that I was using just for more USB and eventually install a card.
     
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    Corsair CX650M
     
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    I'm using the 550w verison of this
     
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    Congrat!
    But man I think you should build a proper PC to house it, the 3080Ti deserves better than that…
     
  6. turbocat

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    Yup that's the plan, I was only planning for a 3070 but couldn't believe my luck seeing a 3080 ti in shopping cart. I'm gonna build one next year

    Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk
     
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    How many watts are the cards usually? Seems like 550 should be enough.
     
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    Hello, sorry if I'm posting in the wrong place. I just broke my graphics amplifier, and am trying to determine if it can be fixed, or it's toast. I was trying to remove the graphics card to remove the little panels to expose the ports in the back, and I missed that there was a clip holding it in. I pulled the port up instead of pulling the card out. Any advice would be much appreciated, thank you.

     
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    Some pics would be helpful, did you break the PCI board or is it all still intact and you can put it back how it was

    Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk
     
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    I'm not sure how to upload a pic. It only has the option for a link as far as I can figure. Advice?
     
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    Image in avatar. I'm not very savvy with this, sorry.
     
  12. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Isn't there just a media gallery on this site? Not trying to create more logins in more places. Is there a forum guide anywhere? I can't find it.
     
  14. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Use the search feature http://forum.notebookreview.com/media/add
     
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    It says I don't have permission. Is that something I have to request?
     
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    I feel like I'm just wasting people's time. Thanks - don't worry about it.
     
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    Feel free to send me a PM if you want some help. I also have a lot of spare AGA parts if you need to replace something.
     
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    Gonna be trying out a 3080 ti next week with the AGA. Managed to nab one for msrp last night on Amazon of all places. Guess the bots can't win them all...
     
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    What model did you get? What's your CPU, I'll be interested to see what performance you get

    Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk
     
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    definitely going to have to take the top off. I didn't think the internal display really used the AGA, thought it was external only?
     
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    Working fine on my internal with gsync 1440p
    Maybe there where problems early on but none for me

    Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk
     
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    Meh, not going as well as I thought. Getting 115 fps on warzone @ 1440p with a mix of mostly "normal" settings..some low (competitive). I'll have to run timespy to see what it compares too. Though this game is not optimized well and I am running some nvidia filters which accounts for about 10 fps drop probably.
     
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    Did you need a new PSU for the AGA? Any pointers, I have an AGA here and plan to get a 3080 but zero idea about PSU's etc. Always been a laptop guy.
     
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    Guess we will see the limitation of the pcie Aga port with your setup, I think timespy will show better results but not as real world as gaming results, be good if you can try some modern games. I am toying up selling the laptop and aga and doing a mini itx build
     
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    I did. I had a 750w PSU laying around so I swapped it for the one that was in there. The EVGA 3080 Ti requires 3x 8-pin pci-e connectors. That many don't typically come on psu's at lower levels until you hit about 600w. Very easy to swap it on the unit though I did have to remove the top since this 3080 Ti is so FREAKIN HUGE lol.
     
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    Thank you, do all PSU's or at least most fit with the power connector in the same place or do I need to look at certain sized PSU's, sorry for all the questions but thank you for taking the time to reply.
     
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    No problem ask away. No, all PSU's do not fit with the power connector in the same place. Use this Corsair CX series as a model of where the power connector needs to be and what the size of the PSU needs to be: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01B72W0A2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Just keep in mind this CX (550w) only has 2x pci-e which will work for a majority of gpu's out there, but some like mine you need 3x.

    As I'm running my AGA with the top completely off, size and placement of the power connector on the PSU don't matter as I can move it to where I want, so if you don't care about the top being off you can literally use any power supply.
     
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    Does using the internal display take up more CPU cycles or only the pcie bandwidth?

    I am trying to alleviate my CPU bottle neck, and considering getting a 8750h 17 r5 as wanted to stay with QHD and gsync or selling the laptop and building a mini itx.

    My problem is I don't have anywhere permanent to game so I setup on the dining room table when I game and pack it all away when done with a session. I've got good at doing that with the laptop Aga setup, literally takes me a minute or two. Two trips to the kitchen.
     
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    https://www.3dmark.com/spy/21215883

    Is this a bad or good score for this setup (i7 9700k + 3080 Ti aga)?
     
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    Ok so looks like it should be where it should the. AGA performance seems to be just as equal minus 1-2 so that's good. I dunno about hyperthreading?

    Just stinks I'm at the fps I'm at in Warzone..I should be at a stable 140-160 fps but instead at 105-120. Not sure what that is about.
     
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    What's your CPU usage look like when at that FPS
     
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    maxes out at about 75%
     
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    So it's not that maybe it's the Aga bandwidth limit... Have you got cyberpunk?
     
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    I do not. Is it worth?
     
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    Not full price but worth it from instantgaming will be good on your rsetup with full raytracing it looks pretty
     
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    What's warzone like, didn't realize it was free to play
     
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    I'm getting the same fps on warzone 105-116
     
  41. illuMinniti

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    This is a late reply, haven't been on the forums. My Zotac 3090 didn't work in the AGA, but I plan to try it soon tonight again with the things @Justin Shidell mentioned with the regedit, if it doesn't work in a simple method. If it works fine I will do some benchmarks.

    Edit: Yeah still couldn't get the Zotac 3090 Trinity to do anything. Still doesn't show any error codes in the device manager.
     
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    It should work just fine. Wipe all your display drivers with DDU, then re-install latest 3090 drivers. I've done this with a 3070 and 3080ti. At first it wouldn't work, but following those steps got it there.
     
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    After playing with this more, it is 100% the nvidia filters causing an over 30fps dip which is a little wild. If I don't apply filters, my fps is more stable around 125-140fps, which is closer to what they should be, though this should be hitting 140-155 and staying there for the most part.
     
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    I've done it with multiple 3070s as well, before Dell/Nvidia made it work better. But the Zotac 3090 I have never showed an error code, which I said months ago was basically a deciding factor of if a GPU would work (from my tests). Like if it showed an error, it was a good thing cuz your GPU was recognized to some point. But no error code, the GPU is probably screwed with the AGA lol.

    I turned on the AGA, used latest DDU, installed latest 3090 drivers, no error code, shut down laptop, turned on laptop, still no error code. Did the regedit with 200 for the HackFlag, restarted, still didn't work. Only thing I could think of, is maybe I needed to update my ACC or something, cuz it does say "it needs to download additional components". But I put the 3090 back in the mining rig. I'll play with it more on Tuesday when its 95 degrees
     
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    I have an Alienware m15 R3 that I’m trying to get working with my Alienware Graphics Amplifier (upgraded with a Corsair CX650M power supply) and an RTX 3080ti. My m15 R3 has an onboard RTX 2070 Super and Intel UHD 630 Graphics, 300Hz non-gsync display, and latest BIOS 1.8.0. I’m using the Nvidia 471.11 notebook driver.

    I’ve tried various things. After running DDU, installing 471.11 without AGA to get the 2070 Super running, rebooting to connect the AGA, I start out with the 2070 operational and the 3080 showing up as a “Microsoft basic display adapter” with a code 32. Then, I install the 471.11 again, and the 3080ti display fires up with a mirror of the laptop display for a couple of seconds during the driver install, and then the external screen freezes. After the install is complete, 3080ti shows up with a code 43 in device manager, and the 2070 is operational. After a reboot, it takes a few seconds of a black screen before the windows “device disconnected” sound , and after logging in, both the 3080ti and 2070 have a code 43. (Note: This is a m15 R3 with the 300Hz screen, so I don’t ever see the Intel adapter in device manager.)

    Once, with HackFlags set to 200, I was able to log in, both displays working, and I could see the 3080ti, 2070, and Intel listed as working in Device Manager. It lasted less than 30 seconds before the external display froze, and 3080ti and 2070 went back to code 43 in device manager. This often coincides with a crash and restart of dwm.exe (the desktop window manager) in the event viewer. I seem to get similar results without HackFlags, or with it set to 200, 400, or 600. Sometimes, I can get the external display working again for a few seconds by disabling the 3080ti and enabling it again in Device manager, but then it freezes again.

    I suspect that my specific hardware configuration on this model is something that’s still not handled correctly by Nvidia’s drivers. Other configurations that DO work:
    1. The AGA and RTX 3080 ti work fine with my older Alienware 15 laptop, which has on onboard GTX 970M and Intel HD Graphics 4600, with the 471.11 notebook driver and no tweaks, so I know the AGA and 3080ti and CX650M are working
    2. The Alienware m15 R3 works with the AGA with my old GTX 980ti installed and no HackFlags needed, so I don’t think there’s any total incompatibility between the m15 R3 and the AGA
     
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    I just bought the AGA and installed a 2060 in it. Connected it to my AW15R2. Used DDU to wipe the old drivers and installed the new ones. All other games are working fine except for CSGO. With the built-in 970m I used to get 150fps on 1080p. But with the 2060 it won't go above 70. Does any one have any ideas?
     
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    Sounds like a framerate cap?

    EDIT: Also, are you using the internal screen or an external monitor?
     
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    I'm having trouble getting my AGA to work with my m15. My laptop doesn't want to detect it, and I've gone through multiple BIOS versions (as early as 2.0.4, the earliest my m15 is compatible with), and I have updated Command Center. Anyone have any suggestions? I was thinking the cable broke as it doesn't light up, but the AGA did work with my former 15 R3 back in December. Not sure what happened between then.
    EDIT: So the USB Hub of my AGA works, but it's not detecting the graphics card. I'm not sure how to fix that. It is an RX 6600 XT. Don't know if that is the problem.
     
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    Still having trouble getting my m15 to detect the AGA. The alien head on the AGA also doesn't light up, and the BIOS doesn't detect a graphics card plugged into it as well.
     
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    Do you have the older laptop still?
     
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