*OFFICIAL* Alienware 13 R3 Owner's Lounge

well some of us dont have that type of money to have two expensive laptop. This is stock for stock, no tuning the LCD. either way OLED or regular IGZO IPS can produce great colors, OLED might be a bit overhype by reviewers.

 

which one is the Aorus in your pic? Really nice temps btw, i'm pretty much sold (if i can get over the greasy palm magnet problem + banding issue)

 

So the majority of the temp. issues can be fixed by just enabling fan performance mode in the bios? Does this make the fan noticeably much louder than before in normal and gaming usage? Also, how much have you been able to safely undervolt the CPU without a significant impact on gaming? (135-150 is what I've read in most cases)

 

Fanboy really?

There's been a lot of comments about how good the Arous is in this thread, I just gave you and the thread a walk through of my experience with the brand new x7 v6, witch I had for 12 days.

In all reviews keyboard and flexing chassis is reported as a problem with Aorus. The display was mediocre at best. Their support is rubbish.

Now the customer base for these Aorus laptops it's much smaller than Alienware, so of course there will be much more negative talks about the Alienware lineup.

My post was mostly about calming down potential buyers by giving them an example of my experience with another brand. I'm sorry it was your beloved Aorus, if it makes you feel better my clevo p640re was even more terrible.

Objectively speaking how can you say that the build quality is the same between the x3 and AW13? That's just not true!

Well they can have their market with slim laptops by all mean. But you compared them first, not me.

For me the AW13 represents so much more than a pure gaming laptop. From awesome build quality and keyboard to a breathtaking oled display. I use it for work and for gaming.

The Aorus just seemed to me like a device witch would fall apart after a year of going in and out of the bag in comparison. I would kill my fingers on that keyboard too. So for pure gaming it might be ok, but why should I buy 2 laptops? One for work/typing and one for gaming, when the AW13 did it all for me?

 

Ok I played around with the laptop last night. The temps where uneven but they wasn't by any means shockingly bad. Tested it with the fan profile on maximum and normal. The cpu difference was about 10c. So normal fans. Got mid 80s. The lowest core was in the 70s.
With fan on. Highest was 71c I think whilst the lowest one wax 59c. But you know something. I can deal with that. It's under warranty and if it breaks cos of it. It's not my problem to fix. I can enjoy it with the (minor to me) problems, as the machine it self is so nice. Non of us is ever going to find a perfect machine. Just nearly. And this is it.
I've ordered another one which is estimated for the 30th. So I got a week to play with this one and when I ring up I hope to delay them another week to collect it. So I should only have to wait a week for the new unit that I've ordered on the 8th. Worse case scenario is two weeks if they come right away. I hope the new unit is as good as this. And no clicking keys or palmrest like some user had and Hopefully improved temps. But if not it's still a 10/10 laptop for me. I've enjoyed worse with more problems.
The only other laptops I'd liked to if tried Is the aero 14 (regardless of temps) aorus x3 (wanted to try one for couple years now). Did want to try the gs43 but the laptops mentioned have more to offer for me anyway though a 2.5 drive wouldn't go amiss.


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lol since when is a matte Igzo QHD display is rubbish....now I know you are really a fanboy.

"Now the customer base for these Aorus laptops it's much smaller than Alienware, so of course there will be much more negative talks about the Alienware lineup." Or maybe...just maybe their laptop just work

you want to talk about customer service, I'm pretty sure there are PLENTY people here who got burned by Dell customer service. I spent 3-4 hours online chatting to an agent to get someone out to my place to fix my Dell xps 15 9550 not once but 3 times, ending up sold the damn ****ing thing because I was sick of spending hours talking to a Dell rep.

once again you failed to see the point of Aorus. It advertisement is the Lightest with the most powerful hardware cram into a small chasis. So while the X3 isnt 7lbs and build out of pure metal chasis, it is sturdy enough to take daily standard abused, Daily standard abuse meaning, picking up and setting it down, type on it, do regular **** to it, not throwing it or droppping it to see if it breaks. You cant have a light notebook and have metal everywhere, not without spending thousands on R&D with space-age technology, and then whos gonna buy a laptop that is $5000 just because its using space-age metal? not enough customer to satisfy or even pay for the R&D.

The quality is the same, just the goals are different between two company. I used my Aorus for work and gaming also, it fit in my tumi backpack been with me oversea, hawaii and back to mainland, it hasnt broken or does anything that irritated me in term of overheating or "micro stutter". If you travel a lot you will appreciate the weight of Aorus x3, hands down there are no other laptop with lighter weight, with the latest and greatest, and have more options of expandability.

with that I feel like theres no need to reply to you anymore because you are clearly a fanboy, which is fine, whatever helps you justify the money you just spent but I doubt you've even own an Aorus.

 

both laptop have the greasy palm thing, just FYI. Left side is Aorus and right is AW.

 

As has been eluded to here many times, there is no perfect laptop, especially in this niche market that we are strolling in. Every single "portable gaming" laptop available today has issues and not coincidentally, most if not all of them are the same (battery, temps, stuttering, etc..). Bringing up, comparing and arguing over which brand is better, does not offer anything helpful or constructive in this particular thread.

I've owned pretty much all the latest iterations of gaming laptops today (minus the Aorus, and all I'll say about them is, considering 73 people in the United States own one, the amount of negative reviews about them is concerning to say the least), and all of them exhibit some or all of the issues the AW 13 R3 claims to have. Bottom line is; we look and try too hard to find things wrong with these units. And as much as these forums are here to help, sometimes they cause more harm than good. Some people believe whatever they are told, without every finding out for themselves. Which is why I take these forums and all forms of public media with a grain of salt.

 

I've had the 1080 IPS version a few days. No major issues that have been reported, temps are reasonable, and I currently have it undervalued by 150 with no issues.

I do have one issue. Left physical button on TouchPad is extra sensitive. When clicking on anything, one normal press sends multiple single clicks through. Attempted to play with the double click setting which doesn't help alleviate the fact that the button is sending way too many presses when it should only send one.

Anyone else with the issue?

 

Alright my laptop in Canada has shipped!

 

Ok epic fail cuz I mention that I owned a x7 v6 and that doesn't have a Igzo display. Read one more time.

No they don't. Read on the Aorus forums witch I did after buying it. Half of the post are about negative critism on build quality, keyboard and display problems.

Customer service are also mentioned in the same forum as a lukewarm experience at best.

I don't fail to see any point cuz you compared them first, I just stated my experience with the x7, I even said the x3 might be a better laptop than the x7.

Fanboyism isn't my strong suit. If you feel that I am a fanboy I will surly survive that.

I buy a computer based on my needs, the AW13 fit these needs better than any other laptop on the market, I say again that's for me.

The x3 costs more or less the same here in Norway so if I really wanted that instead I would buy it, but my experience with Aorus isn't the best.

Now I don't care what ppl buy, but I would say to the ppl posting in a thread where we discuss the AW13 to try it out, and don't back out of ordering the machine because a few feel the need to hate it.

 

I could care less what system people buy, if that person is happy with it then that's all that matters.

If you look hard enough you will always find imperfections.

 

I received mine a couple of days ago. It's 16gb OLED i7. I've been loading up games and finally had some time to test some out. When I run battlefield 1 my CPU temps climb up to 95-99 on core 0 and core 3, 85 on 1 and 4. I was pretty bummed about it until I went I to the bios and enabled CPU performance mode(not fan performance mode). After I did this my temps in battlefield maxed out in the lower 70s. It seems like the fans ramp up sooner as they should.

those of with good temps out of the box.. what is your setting in the bios?

 

This right here... I've been pretty quiet on here since I got my AW13 because my experience with it has been flawless. Then again, I'm not benchmarking the heck out of it and analyzing every last degree of temp, but I have been playing games on it, experienced no throttling, and have taken a look at temps after the fact and I haven't see anything to be concerned with.

On forums you are going to hear mostly negatives because some people will complain and/or some are looking for help to their issues. I could easily contradict all the complaint post with my experience, but I don't think that is necessary and I would never undermine someone else's experience. The bottom line is that even if we got the same model system, we still have two different systems and its possible that mine is fine and theirs is not.

If anyone is interested in the AW13, buy it, try it, and decide for yourself.

 

I think there were 1 or 2 other people that said the same thing either here on reddit. Does the battery life fall on performance mode? Did you get a chance to try?

 

I have not done a real test, but going by the battery life estimate, it was 3:50min at 99 % on CPU performance mode. With cpm disabled the estimated time left is 4:30min and with battery saver on it's 5:30min all at 25℅ brightness. The fans are more audible but not full blast like fan performance mode. I have some grizzly knt on the way to see if that fixes my core differentials

With CPU performance mode disabled, I feel as if the fans are trying to stay silent, lagging in ramping up when needed. With it enabled it appears to be linear. Those of you with great temps and cpm disabled, I'm curious if your temps will be outstanding with it enabled...

 

With CPU performance mode disabled, I feel as if the fans are trying to stay silent, lagging in ramping up when needed. With it enabled it appears to be linear. Those of you with great temps and cpm disabled, I'm curious if your temps will be outstanding with it enabled...[/QUOTE]

Correct, this is an excellent find, the fans now kick on much sooner and keep temps very reasonable.

Thank you!

 

Glad it worked out for you Darkhan, what kind of a degree difference did you see? I

 

dropped mine from 88 to 81 core 0 and 72 on core 3. Gpu dropped from 79 to 73.

Noted I have repasted 3 times (ye I just wanted to keep tinkering) also repadded.

 

Thanks, great find indeed. After activating the CPU perf.mode, here are my temps [Witcher 3 , no re-pasting yet]

 

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cpu looks good but gotta get that GPU under 80.

 

So I've been enjoying my AW13 R3 for about a week now. I haven't bothered checking temps or anything (to be honest I don't know how to) I've just been using and enjoying the machine. One problem I'm experiencing though is random clicking sounds coming from the speakers, its like a static click. I checked with headphones on and its exactly the same. Does anyone else have this issue or know of a quick fix?

 

I do not have this issue and I have 2 13 r3. I would suggest uninstalling the sound drivers and reinstalling?

If that does not help I would call support for a replacement or fix.

 

Uninstall the Realtek drivers and let windows install stock

 

as for the cpu performance option and fan performance option, I would love to see Alienware add this to Alienfx so you can enable/disable without going to bios.

 

Windows drivers fixed it - Thanks!

 

Wow, do people just buy laptops to see how far they can drop temps!, who actually uses one for serious gaming or work?. I've never seen so much obsession, someone repasting 3 times to only achieve 2-3 degrees difference, thats insane!

 

It is rather ridiculous. Spend good money on a high-performance laptop, then underclock/undervolt it, turn all the fans off, set brightness to 3%, re-paste, etc.... Remarkable.

 

Think if you're planning on paying a premium for a top dollar gaming laptop, people want to be able to achieve the optimal temps to preserve hardware/amplify performance

 

This feature has been requested MANY TIMES OVER ever since the Alienware machines come out. Dell does not care.

Moreover we don't just game, we bench where every single drop of temperature or performance matters.

Why do you think people who buy muscle car tune every day before hitting the dragstrip?

 

Moreover we don't just game, we bench where every single drop of temperature or performance matters.

Why do you think people who buy muscle car tune every day before hitting the dragstrip?[/QUOTE]

Not only that but some of us actually enjoy tinkering and seeing what results we can achieve, it's a hobby for myself and many others.

 

Not only that but some of us actually enjoy tinkering and seeing what results we can achieve, it's a hobby for myself and many others.[/QUOTE]

You got it.


And it's up to the user what do to with the machine anyways, we get enjoyment out of different actions.

 

BUMP last chance.

 

Have been playing with this for the better part of the day. My best guess is that it is a hardware issue since if I swap the button arounds, the issue is specific to the left physical touchpad button. Guess I'll call Dell support tomorrow.

 

I get it. But it's not quite the same as doing it for a laptop. In cars. It's a race. There's one victor. With laptops. No one is having the lowest temps most fps performance. I used to mess with all that. But found myself spending more time tinkering and less time ACTUALLY playing games. So becomes a waste of money if it's not serving it's primary purpose...unless benchmarking and temps is really your primary reason to purchase


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Sometimes benchmarking is a person's primary use of the laptop. That is much more likely for folks on here vs the general public.

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I totally get that from an advertisers and reviewers perspective. But as a private person. I'd assume after checking if your unit is good. That benchmarking is left alone...at least till you are experiencing performance problems.


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I'm wondering if that bag you have can fit in a Sony ds4 controller also. Also Ozzy do you have a pair of noise canceling earbuds you'd recommend?

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Some people treat benchmarking like you would treat playing a game. It makes them just as happy. I used to be that way with my M17x and M18x - it was fun. Main reason I stopped was because it was time consuming and expensive - I was always buying the top spec to stay competitive and then in a year the new models came out anyways. It was fun chasing higher clocks and scores though haha. I was even benching my laptop in my chest freezer for a while to get that cooling edge!

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Lmao in the freezer
I used to benchmark a lot. But I had a console then so I'd also use that. Now my laptop is my main. Although I'll always try temps out first to make sure. I do it a lot less now. Like you. I somewhat do upgrade to stay on top. And I need a 1070 I think so it's a lot of money spent for short term. And as you stated it's also time consuming. Figured for me if I spent the same time actually playing games as intended. I'd be happier.


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Does anyone know why you can't switch from IGP to dedicated using fn+f7? I get a message "not supported on oled"..

 

only way to do it is disable IGPU in device manager but then you lose brightness control. You are trying to fix the stutter issue?

 

No I dont have any stutter issues but I'd like to be able to control which GPU is running..

 

I saw Fujipoly thermal pads were recommended on Reddit. does anyone know which ones (a link or just thickness) and how many I would need to repad? I have artic silver from when I made my desktop but I know nothing about thermal pads. My friend will repaste for me so I might as well get this done too.

 

I'm pretty sure that the 13 is an Optimus-enabled machine with no mux, i.e. hardwired through the iGPU, no? At least I haven't seen any info to the contrary.

 

With the 1080P IPS panel, I can use fn-f7 to switch to dGPU (Nvidia) only mode, versus the mode where it switches dynamically between graphics devices.

 

I can see the points of both sides. You have the group of users who just turns the computer on and starts using it. Then we have the enthusiasts who wants the best of the best when it comes to cooling and settings

I'm going to write a guide on this + full repaste. I haven't got around to check this yet, but I would think it's 0.5mm and 1.0mm. You probably need 1-2 sheets of both, 100x15 mm. I got a drawer full after buying them on eBay. I will come back with measures and a complete guide when I'm done repasting/repadding. I'm on Holliday now. Though metal alone dropped my temp with 12 degrees Celsius =)

Check the user/shop pcerb on eBay. He sells fujipoly in all sizes.

 

they dont ship Sundays do they?

3rd day into my "new" extended ETA and still on confirmed.

 

The rep I told that my order will ship on Monday , 12/12 ..Hope it does..that might be the case for you also...but considering dells recent false promises I wouldn't keep my hopes high