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    *OFFICIAL* Alienware 15 R1/R2 Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in '2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17' started by Mr. Fox, Dec 10, 2014.

  1. calj17

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    Is it possible to install alienware R1 4k touchscreen on alienware 15 r2 and make touchscreen work?

    Enviado de meu SM-N920G usando Tapatalk
     
  2. cavell219

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    There is a service manual, I didn't use it but I went through it afterwards and it is very detailed.

    You mean like the ones I'm attaching to this post. :D

    No I did not, I'm not really into the whole video thing but maybe I will try to record one later and re-take it apart.. Only took me like 45 mins to take it apart/ repaste and put it back together.

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    There is no connector on the mobo for it, so no.
     
  4. calj17

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    Ok. Has anyone found a review of the new alienware 15 r2 echo 4k touchscreen sold by Microsoft.com?

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  5. sirleeofroy

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    I thought it worked via the eDP port?
     
  6. cavell219

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    I guess it is possible but I know on all of the other laptops that have touch that I have taken apart had a separate connector for touch. But those were not eDP so I guess it could work. I never really looked into it.
     
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    great pics!!!!

    was there any pointers or tips we should look out for while stripping down our own..?? or is it simply unscrew and pry apart.
     
  8. cavell219

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    Ah, finally got the BSOD's to stop. This thing is really picky on the order of the driver installs. lol

    Honestly though, the hardest part for me was getting off the access cover on the bottom... That should be the easiest part but mine would not come off for the life of me( and I didn't want to leave any marks of course). Finally got it to pop off after getting leverage by putting a hook tool into the screw port than got my plastic spreader in with the small gap I made. After that getting to the proc/gpu was fairly simple.

    Like 12 screws on the bottom, and 5 or so connectors. Remove the M.2 and unscrew the wifi card and remove the antennae's. You can leave the card itself in though. You also have to remove the ram to get to a screw under them to pop off the palm rest.

    Once I got the screws the palm rest pop off area made this so easy, just give it some good pressure than from the initial clips I was able to get my fingers under and slowly pop off the palmrest, there is the connector for the power button, so just flip the palmrest up against the screen.

    Next remove all the connectors on the mobo side, 3 or 4 more I think.

    From there take out the single screws on the hinge covers and tilt the screen back and remove them, than the 2 screws on the back of the laptop where the exhaust fans are (one for each hinge) Than remove the 2 screws for each hinge next to the mobo, be sure to support the screen as it is now able to be removed.

    After that there are only 6 more screws to get out the motherboard, all very simple and straight forward. Just be careful when you pull out the motherboard and make sure the dummy microSD card is out... The board will not come out with it in :D.

    Feel free to ask in this thread or message me if you have more questions.
     
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    So I think my video card is bad, yay... Get to contact dell now.. Fun Fun
     
  10. sirleeofroy

    sirleeofroy Notebook Evangelist

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    Ah man that sucks, what happened?
     
  11. cavell219

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    Artifacts and blue screens constantly. Thought I fixed them with a correct install of drivers but it came back fairly quickly. Tried a new install of windows a couple times now and multiple different drivers. None of it worked. Will see what they want to do, either send it back or send me a new mobo( doubt it)
     
  12. sirleeofroy

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    Was it doing that before the re-paste? Have you modded the vbios? Sounds like what happens when I clock things too much!
     
  13. cavell219

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    Yup sure was, was hoping it was a driver issue. Got this guy yesterday from Dell and I feel like they forgot to refurbish it lol... had processor issue originally, now gpu... Temps at least stay under 60 lol....
     
  14. sirleeofroy

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    Sorry to hear that, what spec did you get?

    Mine should arrive early this week, I really hope I don't have "issues"....
     
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    I need some help deciding is it worth the price difference between 15 and 17?

    AW 15 R2 6700hq 970m vs AW 17 R3 6700hq 980m
     
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    Depends on the price difference I suppose! What are your prices?
     
  17. cavell219

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    Nice, Good luck!
    I7 6820HK
    980M 8GB
    8GB DDR4
    128gb ssd/1 tb data
    4k screen
     
  18. intotheblue

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    Anyone install any 2400mhz RAM yet? I read somewhere that it initially wouldn't recognize anything over 2133 but a BIOS firmware changed that.
     
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    Theres U$S 400 us dollars in price difference, ill surely get the 15 the only differences i can see are subwoofer and 980m.
     
  20. A-leo

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    just overclock your stock ram
    pretty easy from 2133 to 2400 or even 2666 same story with haswell 1600 to 2133
    but 2400 and or 2800 another story though
    its a matter of luck
    gl
     
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    Im using the r1 4k panel on my r2 the screen works fine i dont have the touch feature tho, i maybe could have taken the actual 40/40 connector and swap them out but i did not want to take apart the laptop but using it as just a basic screen works flawlessly.
     
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    i get the same random artifacting from time to time...... laptop fails with either green or red artifacts all over the laptop screen, external stays clear..... never prompts a BSOD for me though it just simply locks up and it requires hard reboot.

    ive learnt to live with it now.....
     
  23. A-leo

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    Has anyone ever try 9mb windows 8.1, size is only 9 mb?
     
  24. intotheblue

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    Thx I'll do some research on overclocking, I was going to upgrade from 8Gb to 16GB, not that I really need it, more of a "why not?"
     
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    Hey, I noticed in your pictures that you have a copper plate where the M.2 slots are. I was fairly sure that when I looked at my friends AW15 he didn't have that. Did yours come like that?
     
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    Only the R2 has it. The R1 doesnt. I can confirm that.
     
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    Ah that figures with the R2 having PCIe drives that tend to get a little warm! Thanks for confirming.
     
  28. A-leo

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    worst part of memory oc is malfunctioned ram ( already killed 4 after market ram and 1 hynix stock ram) just to try to reach 2400mhz/10 stable.
    but i am pretty sure your machine can do 2666mhz ram with tight timings (someting like 10/11 worst maybe 12).
    good luck :)
     
  29. cavell219

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    Same mine does, this is unacceptable for this price point though. The blue screen happens when the laptop goes from Intel HD to nvidia than back to Intel HD in a short period... it very well could be software issues but I can not find the fix and have tried all bios available as well as drivers. Maybe I will try again tonight.

    Came with it.

    Thanks for replying :)
     
  30. intotheblue

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    I'll report back once I get the 2400mhz chips installed later this week and see if that speed is recognized. Won't do any additional overclocking. For anyone thinking of upgrading to 16GB, the only way I could eek past 8GB of ram was running an intensive game, and then taking multiple screenshots and pasting them in photoshop, while having 6+ browser tabs open...so a pointless upgrade 99% of the time.

    Also, I just paid $323 total for the Graphics Amplifier and AMD 290, I'll report back on how that works out as well.
     
  31. cavell219

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    Just got off the phone with Dell. Man was that a long call... after multiple driver installs and BSODs/freezes... they are sending a new motherboard, unfortunately with a technician lol... leveraging my comp E degree didn't help to have them let me install myself haha...

    I have a sinking feeling the mobo will either have wrong processor or gfx card.... I hope not though lol
     
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    Good luck, I hope you don't get a tool of a technician!
     
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    this is what i dread!!!

    just blown the BIOS on my AW15 with the 1.2.7. update people.... crashed @ 87%

    no way to repair!!, DELL want to send someone out to replace my board... I KNOW it wont OC anywhere near what this one did, and itll probably leave me with an undetected GPU....BLOODY DELL :mad:

    anyone know if i can replace BIOS chips on these boards..??? DO NOT want to surrender my perfectly working HW due to a bad flash.
     
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    So it is with BGA ;). One of the reason that socket hardware is prefered. Hope you are lucky with the next chip.
    This will maybe not work on new Aw Echo model with Skylake? http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/bios-flash-issue.778528/#post-10051222
     
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    i felt that my cpu holding back gpu
    this laptop used shared cooling which is suck cause my hotwell lol,

    i tested 3 hours of assasin creed syndicate, it blow my 3.1 ghz cpu to 80 c!!! even after repaste!!!! and my oced gpu even without repaste still hold 73 c!! i know half of the heat is from shared cpu temps.
    flaw cooling design but better components really can be a bottleneck on this particular model but i cant complain to ask for refund lol.
    not to mention crappy driver from nvidia especially 359.06 the game optimization driver so i have to live with 30ish fps on 353.62 driver.
    sooooo many bottleneck.
     
  36. rinneh

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    The cooling is fine. The thing is the fan's do not spin up very fast by design to keep the fan noise low. If you make a custom fan profile in hwinfo you can get the temps down to 65c on gpu and 75c on cpu. 80c is by the way a good temp for a laptop. MSI, Gigabyte, Razer with a bit thinner machines run in the 90c's.
     
  37. A-leo

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    how to create custom fan?
    but i locked multiplier to 31x on throtllestop. i am expecting 70 at max esp after repaste even though its only mx4.
    i know this is the longest life laptop that i ever had, 1 year is record for me without needing a mother board replacement because of excessive heat that causing failed cpu/gpu lol
     
  38. rinneh

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    There is a tutorial somewhere within this subforum. Currently on a cellphone so i cant find it easily.

    Mx4 isnt the best paste though but your temps seems to be fine. Similar to mine.
     
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    How do you actually crash the bios update ?
    Even if the adaptor is suddenly broken, the battery is gonna back it up straight away, right ?

    Anyway i downgrade from 1.2.7 to 1.2.3.
    1.2.7 doesnt seem to like my evo850 m.2, the hdd light is flashing everytime i turn on the laptop for like half a minute before it proceed to windows
     
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    good luck getting the motherboard replaced by dell.. 2 week back order on the parts.

    they're replacing mine because of the 7-beeps issue.
     
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    nope..... it locked up@ 87% heard a sharp buzz through the speakers and it shut off ........ no reboot, so upon pressing power it now wont post, just runs a boot loop rebooting itself as soon as the alienware logo lights up (about 4 or 5 secs) not even long enough to physically shut the machine down on the button....

    i am utterly pissed at the moment.....

    thanks papusan ....... i did already try that, it wont work with my BIOS type unfortunately.

    2 week back order, lol...... thats ok, it takes that long just to get through to someone who knows what theyre talking about on they're phone system!!

    sick to death of regurgitating my service codes :rolleyes:
     
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    Mx4 is a medium paste. Not top or bottom. The best is Liquid Ultra if you dare to use it. The best of conventional paste is ICD/Grizzly Kryonaut and Gelid Extreme as second place. Don't bother to read test of paste done on desktop hardware. A lot of laptop overclockers in this and other forums have this statement on thermal paste. But use what you want. No one force you to use an other thermal paste :D
    Have you tried to Pm @Lord Zog ? I think he is very familiar with this bios. Worth a shot.
     
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    Correct me if I am wrong, but most BIOS chips are BGA aren't they?
    That 2 week back order could be on your specific board though. They told me 3-5 days when I spoke with them. 6820HK and 8GB 980M
     
  44. Papusan

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    Always soldered bios chip on the laptop motherboard. It is possible to take out the bios chip if you are good with a soldering iron. There are people who can reprogram the bios chips and help you out. You just have to find the right people / company :). Maybe @Dufus can help.
     
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    Thought so, all the ones I have done needed to be desoldered... I love soldering :D
     
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    Handy when everything is soldered aka BGA :p Perhaps an introduction to the use of soldering iron in the thread ;)
     
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    The must be a way to restore the bios. Isnt there a similar bios type for other laptops that do offer instructions?
     
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    okay i try to find them
    thanks for clue
     
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    HWINFO64 SETTINGS...
    Uncheck EC Support under "Programs -> Settings -> Safety" and THEN be sure to go to the Sensors section and disable monitoring of "DELL EC". Link to a great guide for you. http://imgur.com/a/UYC3s#0
    DELL EC only lets you set 3 different fan speeds in AW17/18. Compal EC mode lets you set the fan speed higher and in finer steps than DELL EC, but on this systems this mode can cause higher system latency, stability issues, or problems with system shutdown. If you don't experience any issues with EC Support enabled, that's the preferred mode. I personally put the fans at maximum under heavy load in Hwinfo fan control. Otherwise just default fan profile.
     
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    how hard would it be on a dual chip BIOS mobo to design update software that upon flashing a new BIOS file, it simply flashes the primary first then reboots to make sure of a good post, if it fails, it fires up on the secondary BIOS then gives you a message like....(this BIOS is corrupted or incomplete, would you like to flash back to original now or upon reboot)

    that way you always have a back up when flashing a dual BIOS board..??????? INSANITY!!
     
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