*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

I am awaiting the monitor below to come to market before buying one.

LG 38GL950G

"The monitor uses a 37.5” UltraWide Nano IPS panel, with 3840 x 1600 resolution, 1000:1 static contrast and 350. It is marketed as having a 21:9 aspect ratio as this is more common and better understood by users, although it’s technically a 24:10 (12:5 or 2.4:1) aspect ratio. It will work in much the same way in practice, but you get ~1 inch of extra height and ~3 inches of extra width compared to a 34” UltraWide as well as some extra pixels to play with. The pixel density remains similar. The panel is also curved, with a 2300R curve delivering a fairly gentle (but on such a wide panel still noticeable) curve. In our experience this draws the user in and adds a slight sense of extra depth, without fundamentally changing the experience or making things seem unnatural. Other attributes include a light matte anti-glare screen surface and a 144Hz refresh rate which can be overclocked in the OSD to 175Hz. The monitor also supports G-SYNC to smooth out tearing and stuttering for Nvidia GPU users (30 – 175Hz variable refresh rate range). An enhanced phosphor flicker-free backlight is included, which is what the ‘Nano’ in Nano IPS refers to. This should yield a colour gamut of ~98% DCI-P3 (~135% sRGB) and offers a 450 cd/m² typical maximum luminance. A response time is not currently specified, but we’d expect 5ms grey to grey to be specified eventually. The monitor also includes DAS (Dynamic Action Sync), a low input lag feature – which, alongside the fact it’s a G-SYNC model, means you can expect input lag to be minimal. "



https://pcmonitors.info/lg/lg-38gl950g-curved-3840-x-1600-175hz-nano-ips-g-sync-model/

Bad part is it is not due out until Q3

 

Really?
This is what is cooling a Single 2080RTX
That is a "real" vapor chamber.


VS

Either one of these.


Going to have to stop you right there yet again.
That can keep two 1080N's in check, while the A51M can not hold an unlocked 1080N in no way shape or form. That card can pull more than 300WX2, so yeah, but no.

So let's not get ahead of ourselves and this is also no competition between the two, just stating the facts.

 

51m owners, please check your machine..... When the computer is running off battery power and it goes to sleep it freezes ... Hitting a key or the power button does nothing ... the only way out is to hold power button and hard shutoff.... I reinstalled the operating system new... And it keeps happening... Has this happened to anyone else? Or can current owners try and let the computer go to sleep without being plugged in and let us know if yours is ok?

 

What is the first picture you call real vapor chamber? Can use to upgrade our 51m or what?

 

No, that is from a different manufacture unfortunately.

 

Just wondering if the heatsink and fans on the A51m are way better than on the AW17R5.
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Could anyone please run P95 small FFTs or similar, and tell us how many watts can the heatsink/fans/chassis remove from the CPU with keeping temps below 90C ? For comparison, with LM the AW17R5 hits 110W at < 90C, whereas with average thermal paste it is about 80W at 90C or below.

 

Its Clevo, correct?

 

That is correct.

In other news....150W Card is catching up.

 

110w long term only without load on the GPU . With gpu@ 160w is the CPU Limit ~70-80w. The r5 Heatsink can handle ~230w-240. Thats the max unfortunatley.

 

Comeon break that 26k gap!
I see on your 25938 bench that the CPU is @ 5.2, bump it to 5.3 and you should break the 26k gap.

As for me atm i can't go any higher. My GPU is 100% maxed out and i can't get my CPU past 5.2GHZ, i tried 5.3 @ 1.4V but i'm not super comfortable going higher.
I may try 5.3 @ 1.44 tonight with AC unit on but i doubt it will work.

Maybe my score will improve with the next 200W bios and possible future 2666mhz ram support and who knows what other tweak they may make next.

I must say the 51M is very powerfull and i'm really glad i bought this model.
Finally Alienware made something decent.

 

Okay, you don't need to go any higher to run the other benchmarks.
5.2ghz is respectable. It's what you do with that 5.2Ghz that matters. And what you do with that 190W

 

I prefer maxing out on 1 benchmark, it's easier to find the limit that way and do the other bench after.
I'll proceed and do Timespy/Port Royale and Cinebench 15 tonight once i figure out if 5.3 is a thing

 

And you will find out that that will not work, but hey.....i'm not mad atcha.

Edit:
Wonder what i can do with an A51M if i'm able to do this with a Clevo....

@iunlock
Please read the last few pages and you will see what we were discussing...In full effect.

 

I can't adjust my voltage on MSI afterburning, is anyone having the same issue?

 

9700K / 2080

Cinebench R15.

 

1st 9700k / 2080 Timespy score.
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/34374975?

 

Exactly, a real vapor chamber will destroy an heatpipe based heatsink easily. As it stands only Microsoft, Razor and Clevo have made Real vapor chambers and the rest uses the good old coldplate attached to some pipes. Because the vapor chamber essentially also spreads the heat it much better in dissipating the heat than a regular coldplate with pipes can do.

 

Thank you!

Pretty much so...

Hummm, ,might have to try a bit harder when I get time. I'm quite surprised that it's able to get this high on 150W actually....

 

What ur +Mem and +Clock?

I'd like to see you break the 26k gap.
I'm pretty sure i'll make a good run and break the 30k graphic score today.

 

Oh, i'll for sure break that, considering my cpu needs to be back where it normally is. 28.5k or higher. Right now it's low 27.3k for 5.2 or 5.3 ghz
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/18659922

 

I'll try that whenever I get mine

 

Just did it.

1st 9900k/2080
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/34375710?




I'm done benchmarking for now, if you guys have question dont hesistate PM'ing me.
My gpu and CPU are both 100% maxed out, i'll bench again when the bios get updated

 

The AW 17 r4 display will not fit in AW area 51m. this model comes with narrow bezel display which is smaller then AW 17 r4. Also the display connection is different too.

 

What clock speed? Your 5.2GHz?

 

Yeah, I didn't want to say anything, but hey...
Here is 4.8 because I'm not sure if I ran it on stock.

This is 4.8 ghz sitting on a desk

 

Yeah, something is up. From what I can see he got only 1375cb with Stock clocks. And the 2400MHz sticks isn't the culprit.

 

Definitely not the ram. This was shown with @ssj92 and myself running CB15/CB20 in this thread.

 

Correct

I'm at 5.2 0-6th core
4.9 on 7-8th core

I can't get XTU to work at all on my computer so I'm using Alienware CC
My stock clock is higher in the 1,400 area.

When I get back home I'll do stock , 5 and 5.2 again.
Anything else you'd like to see? (Hwmonitor open?)

 

What were temps? No throttling at all?

Nice job!!

 

Stock and oc’d (all cores equal oc’d) with and without Hwinfo64. Thanks.

 

Stock




5.0 Ghz 1.26V -100mv undervolt. (Showing as 4.7Ghz on Hwmonitor during Benchmark since 0-6th are @ 5ghz and 7-8th are @ 4.7)



5.2Ghz at 1.36V (Showing as 4.9Ghz on Hwmonitor during Benchmark since 0-6th are @ 5.2 and 7-8th are @ 4.9)



5.2Ghz at 1.36V with HWmonitor closed.

 

Yep, that's low.

 

Oh and i tought i'd give it a go with AC unit.

9700k / 2080
5.2Ghz @ 1.36V

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/34379220?




If my setup was a 9700k/2080 desktop.
I'd be ranked 95 out of 4235.

 

Not done testing at all, but just thought I'd share one of my results. If you're curious how the AGA with a 2080 ti works, well here is a test. This did have a GPU OC but no CPU OC, need to test again with a CPU OC. This is my score (tobyg) compared to the current #1 in this category.

BTW My unit is the 9700k/2070 (with 2080 ti in AGA)

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/17227100/fs/18633150#

 

Below is Reddit AMA, Jan 8th or so

Dell GRFX Form Factor (DGFF) prices will be known soon, probably not stated publicly (the exact list price), but found for sale when contacting DellSales

My estimated prices for 2060 / 70 / 80 purchased now off of Sales page are $525 / $1125 / $1575, & I predict those prices to rise higher when buying just the GRFX card new for your upgrade or out-of-warranty repair (or sending your laptop in for their 'exchange service'). My estimated prices do not scale to Desktop Card equivalent prices, so note Azor states prices between desktop & DGFF/mobile is ' fairly comparable' (they're not, they're unfairly comparable: 2070 / 2080 cost nearly double their desktop counterparts in price so what he said was a balm to soothe the masses in public), but that in the event they're too expensive, no problem, use the AGA --> 2060 / 2070 owners take note --> if upgrade prices turn out to be obscene (&/or not cost-effective) you've been instructed to fall back on the AGA ...

@tobyg can u run FireStrike V1.1 to compare 80Ti to The Rock's 30,205 score when using AGA for reference

edit to new reply:

2080 30,205 vs 80Ti 34,573​

2080 200w vBios ~April should close gap some if yours is 'stock'

 

Honestly, as cool as upgradeability is; I’m really here for the more impressive cooling and the desktop CPU.

I imagine a 9900k will last me years. I’m still on a 3820 in my desktop after 6+ years of use, and it’s only in the last year or so it’s really held me back.

I don’t ever imagine I’ll drop $1,500 on a GPU upgrade. I’ll rock the hardware as-is which will continue to play any game in existence at acceptable frame rates for 4-5 years, just with less and less graphical flourishes/lower settings. Might get an AGA in two years or so to give it that “mid life boost” at my desk.

Short version: starting with a beast of a CPU in a laptop is way more enticing to me than the pseudo-promise of GPU upgradeability down the road.

 

So I earlier posted that I had issues with Metro exodus running on DirectX 12.
The game still works, but visually my whole pc only does update the screen like once every second or two. basically rendering my pc useless, it becomes awfully slow to wait even for a right click on the desktop.

I thought it was perhaps only with metro ecodus, but now I have the same issue with Devil May Cry 5.
Also I didn't had this issue in the beginning. I did play metro exodus with rtx on for a while. But the I disabled it. and later on that issue happened. and now with DMC5.
I have a 9700K and an RTX2080.

Google shows me that there are people with same issues. Any idea how I could solve this?

EDIT: I did remember when I played metro exodus with rtx, I didn't use an external monitor. I tried that, and I have no issues when running the game on the laptop it's own monitor.
I have an asus PG27AQ 4K G-sync monitor, on which this issue seems to happen.
I am now going to try to disable g-sync and see what it gives.

EDIT 2: Disabling g-sync solves the issue. Somehow, when g-sync is enabled, on my 4k monitor. Running Dx12 games on it, causes my pc to be close to unresponsive slow. WTH!!

 

Run CMD as an ADMIN and type: powercfg /energy

hit enter, and see if the report gives you anything useful about what can be causing the issue

 

Hi mate. This resembles the freeze issues I had. Not sure if it's the same, but maybe it is. If so, it's not a AW issue, but a Windows 10 thing. A bug actually. Try this and see if it helps:

Windows 10 Creators Update Freeze Fix - Turn Off Link State Power Management

-Press Win + R to open the Run box.
-Type powercfg.cpl and then hit OK.
-Find your power plan and then click Change plan settings.
-Choose Change advanced power settings.
-Locate the PCI Express category and then expand it, change the setting of Link
State Power Management to Off.
-Click OK and then Apply.

I have not had any more freezes afte this, so give it a go.

 

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/18661324/fs/18629983

That's mine vs. his.

for this results (check my notes) there was no OC at all on either the CPU or GPU, other than sliding the power/temp limit sliders on the GPU.

So, I should be able to squeeze out more if I retest. I'll try to do more tests later today/tomorrow.

 

A bit OT, but this bad boy works perfect with my 51M. Makes benchmarks seems at least 100% better than they actually are. Also makes the guy in mirror look quite a bit better than he actually does (not unlike the benchmarks). Recommended.

 

Thx for the info.. i have been glancing thru the thread n taking screenshots of whatever i need to do when my machine arrives. LOL.


22/3 is just too long for me. But cant do much and dont really put much hope since i see lots of delay here and there. Moreover the Dell “trusted” courier partner in UK is well known for doing bad. So just wait.....

 

Don't forget the single malt. ;-)

 

Not that I care TOO much about the battery, but can others report the results of running "powercfg /batteryreport" from a cmd prompt?

According to the report, my notebook battery is already 3.5% less than the design capacity.

DESIGN CAPACITY 90,003 mWh
FULL CHARGE CAPACITY 86,800 mWh

 

Interesting. Has anyone used this laptop with an external g-sync monitor with g-sync on and have issues? I just purchased a 1440p g-sync monitor, hope I don’t have these issues when the laptop arrives.

 

Excellent information, thank you... I actually ended up trying updating chipset drivers using Intel update utility, and it seems like the issue has disappeared... I'll continue testing.... I couldn't find your old post regarding your issue, but just to be clear this only happens when in battery power and machine goes to sleep (screen off), and lights on keyboard stay on indefinitely, and even alien head power button stays static (it doesn't slowly flash like it's sleeping, just solid on).... So were those your symptoms too?

 

Yes, it sounds like the same.

 

Can you confirm the exact model # used on the aw51 screen and the difference between the the connector is it one is a 40 pin the other is a 30pin?

 

Need some help....just installed my 32gb ram & ssd and reinstalled. But i cannot install AW CC??

Anyone got any ideas?