*OFFICIAL* Alienware X Series Owners Lounge and Discussion

The 3080 GPU's are rated the same at 165W, but not the CPU. The X17 can easily exceed and handle 100W+, while the 7i caps its HK at 90W. (I've inquired with a few 7i owners to confirm and their data showed >90W.)

I've tapped at the 330W PSU's roof many times playing BF5 @ 4K Maxed out Ultra Settings.





Total: 328.792W

 

Interesting, then it looks to be software related. Often times it could be a completely random driver to cause issues like this and/or windows random windows updates. I haven't had a chance to look into this since the issue doesn't exist on my units. It's interesting, yet not surprising that bot occurrences happened while using the M$ Edge browser.

 

I think you might be right because I've been typing on and off all day today without any issues. Maybe it's related to Outlook because both times it was open when it happened. I'm using Office Pro 2019 and running Windows 10 pro with all current updates.

 

This is false. My 7i can sustain 100w during benchmarks if i raise the pl2

 

I was comparing stock so no it's not false. Of course you can unlock the power limits given that you have the unlocked variant. What games have you played and do you have screenshots? Thanks.

 

The screenshots are from HWInfo, with the 108W and 220W figures being the Max column, right?

 

Correct, the third column.

 

I believe the most correct value to know how much power draw can you get is the column 'Total System Power", because separated GPU and CPU maximum power values does not necessary happen at the same time.

 

That's true. I just happen to finish playing some BF5:

 

Yeah, so the max numbers for GPU and CPU you showed earlier are Interesting (how on Earth did a 125+40W GPU use 220W of power - most likely some bug /sensor glitch) but they tell us nothing about total system power, since the two peaks must have occurred at two different times. I say must because, even if the 220W GPU power draw was real (and we know it most likely wasn't), you couldn't have just the CPU and GPU draw 328W off a 330W adapter. Other system components need more than 2W of power too.

Total 278W system power is obviously more sensible. We know that the total power budget for the CPU and GPU for the system is somewhere between 220 and 240W ish and the rest is used to power the remaining system components under load.

The difficulty with the Max GPU/CPU power in Hwinfo must be why people post those overlay screenshots, as they show the breakdown of CPU and GPU power at a screenshot-worthy peak time.

Edit: as @ekkolp said lol

 

Went to bestbuy with the X15 and showed them the squeaky shift key. Was also able to get the keyboard to not respond again. They returned it and are sending me a brand new X15 via overnight delivery that should be here tomorrow.

 

That def beats the default support model!

 

Keyboard just locked up while in the edge browser and FN + F1 corrected it.

 

Looks like a software issue then. Maybe Bios or AWCC related.

 

Someting is wrong. All I have seen so far is problems with the KB. More with the x17 than the x15

 

Or a volt of electricity since that keyboard sequence is for full power.

 

Unrelated to the X series but interesting all the same. Watch for the backflips. Now they can do what most humans can't. Eerily similar to Cylons. Rise of the machines.

 

So I'm considering canceling my Alienware x17 as it's been a month now since the order and still hasn't started production. So I think Dell can't kiss my ass and I'll go grab myself an MSI

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Another update. Canceled the X15 order and just ordered the X17 with bestbuy. Should arrive Friday. Almost the same price so why not.

 

Well I never had the m15r1 for long, I just remember it overheating doing anything and the keyboard feeling wonky, but I did get the hk then too.

I am an unabashed screen fanatic, especially for the 4k 120hz panels on the aw and razerblades even though the laptops themselves have dumb issues.

Hmm maybe Ill wait for the next refresh, when aw screws something up I don't care about.

 

Yea I agree. I think the take away here in general is that the system is pulling a nice amount of juice. It's hitting all the TDP figures etc... The X17 has a lot of headroom. Both hwinfo64 and in game OSD from AB report consistent temp figures..

 

In my experience:

Ordered early July, estimated delivery date was 11th August, delayed til 13th September now.

 

Hang in there. I noticed that you're also getting the 4K 120Hz panel. It's worth the wait as it's awesome. Working, gaming and watching movies in HDR is stunning on this panel. Super bright too.

 

OTOH people should consider the potential for excruciating pain in case of any issues (keyboard, etc.) after waiting for 2 months plus. It will be very hard to return, which is a part of the delay game.

 

Yeah because AW X17/15 are the only laptops in the world that may fail.

 

They are probably the only laptops in the world on which you may need to wait 2.5 months to find out after "ordering" - the process should really be called a preorder.

 

Question! So I am just going to pick up the i7-> 4k 120hz. Is it better just to pick up the lowest ram option and just up it to 64gb yourself? I read there is something off with the 3400hz memory timings they offer. If so, can you guys recommend what 32gbx2 module would be best for the x17?

I was thinking of going i9, but there is no way it will be noticeably better at long 2-3 hour work loads like UE4 compiling, unless I am missing something.

Oh boy! The GameStop business model! Pre-order now to get the limited edition borked keyboard edition!

 

I would recommend lowest RAM config + Fury Impact - pretty muhh guaranteed compatibility and you won't get any benefits from faster memory such as G. SKILL or Ballistix

 

I got mine in ~15 days, so this statement is not true, at least not in all cases.

 

This may (!) seem like a subtle point, but I did say "may need to wait", hence the statement is true unless no one has been asked to wait for that period.

 

So my bestbuy order says pickup at my local store this Friday, but the dates on the product page now all say September. I don't think I'll be getting this...I don't know how bestbuy inventory and dates work, but just yesterday all the stores said get it August 27 via store pickup. So either they had some planned stock that sold out, or the system is BS and it won't arrive or get canceled. If this happens, I'll just drive to my local microcenter and get a GE76 with the 11800H and 3080

 

When I got my "Fed Ex Chucked it as hard as they could against the wall" edition of the x17, it came in about a month, 2 week wait, 2 week build time.

I have been messing around with builds in today, and it jumped from Oct 15 to September 30th on deliveries, so not even Dell knows.

 

Yeah and I think Dell might be the only ones taking orders and putting sales on their laptops when they can't even get one out in 2.5months

Currently there is a 20% off promo on the x17 in Aus

Also my current laptop just had its battery become bloated so like, if only I had bought a new laptop or something

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I am looking at the service manuals, and its pretty clear where the wifi chip is. If I remove it via soldering, the system would still work work right? I have had the gpu fail on another laptop, and the system still booted fine. I know it is a bit much, but I hate having integrated wifi for my own habits and personal security concerns. I rarely use wifi, and would prefer using a usb module when I need it instead of the integrated chip. My motto is, if its connected, assume its on, especially on Windows.

 

Soldered WiFi is a clear fail (one we overlooked in the discussion so far), but what's wrong with disabling it in Device Manager, or just enabling Airplane mode if you don't need WiFi at all?

 

Definitively soldered elements are a bad thing and mean more potential problems. That's what more I liked about my previous laptop, Clevo P775DM3-G, almost everything has modular properties.

 

Generally if you don't have ship to home option OR if the delivery time is more than the normal 2-3 days they are usually drop shipping straight form Dell and it will come from California. They had/have to 51mr2 options, one was available in 2 days and the other way always 7-9 days. I ordered the higher end model that was 7-9 days 5 times for customers/resale and all of them drop shipped from Dell in California. I could have had the "stocked" one in 2 days from Best Buy warehouse. Almost all their stuff that is 9 days or 2 week delivery like on the clone build game pc's are dropped shipped from the vendor. The time changed because if you order now it wont drop ship in time for friday it will change to first/middle of next week. Chances are you will not get it till first of next week anyway. All 5 of my r2 later shipped model were behind 3-4 days because it took Dell longer to ship than best buy estimated.

 

But yesterday it changed to 3 days and said I'll have it this Friday for store pickup, which is why I quickly ordered it. I might just cancel this then if it won't come this Friday. Sucks

 

Okay guys have a dilemma. Wife is telling me to choose today and I'm stuck with the decision.

X17 at bestbuy with the 11800H, 3070, 1TB 3.0 nvme, 16GB ram, 360hz panel....or GE76 with the 11800H, 3080, 1TB 4.0 nvme, 32gb ram, 360hz panel

GE76 is 3100 USD
X17 IS 2550 USD

 

Wife gives the orders. Thank you for that daily dose of why I won't repeat the same mistake twice.

 

I would choose the one with better specs. So, the GE76.

 

Lmao! It's my fault, buying and canceling this whole week and causing havok in the bank accounts. So she's making me settle now

 

I canceled orders for an Alienware laptop no less then 7 times before letting my X17 ship and Dell was pretty quick to deposit the money back into my account for all those canceled orders. Usually within a few hours. I just didn't order again until I knew the money was returned.

 

Well I guess GE76 it is. Going to grab it at microcenter now.

 

Excited for you! let us know how it goes

 

Loving it. Won't hijack this thread with msi stuff, but I'll be following because I still love alienware. Attached are some pics, just updated to the 165w vbios and ran timespy

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/22391152

 

I can see your point. So far out of the CherryMX's that I've seen (other X17's) and own (x17, R5 and R6) I haven't had any issues and I game on them a lot.

We'll always hear of one offs from any brand... heck the brand that I've experienced the highest failure rate is with MSI.

The 64GB option is the only option that comes with 2x32GB Dual Rank sticks. They're not too bad at all. Here's more info on it. I've tested several aftermarket kits, including my Ballistix 64GB kit and the stock 64GB RAM is faster than all of them. They are Kingston's 3466's and are identical to the crucial 3200 kit that is confirmed to work with XMP on the X17. I would argue that the stock 64GB Kingston 2R kit is binned better, for what it's worth over the crucial 3200... not that it really matters in a laptop anyway, but just pointing out that the stock 64GB kit are actually 3466 vs aftermarket 3200's.

The i7 is more than sufficient. I've been really impressed with the 11th Gen 11800H's across all brand of models...

On paper it looks like a bigger deal than it really is. I don't like soldered components either nor do I condone it, but at least it's not soldered RAM lol. The wifi card in the X17 is pretty decent too.

Out of all the laptops that I've seen in the many years of working on them, I can't remember the last time a wifi card failed. It's the least likely to fail from my experience and a component that is the least likely to feel the need to upgrade. Unlike before where you truly had terrible wifi cards like the earlier variants of the Killer cards, the new wifi cards found on the newer laptops are more than adequate.

 

I do not like the drivers for the X17 NIC. I'm running Google Fiber so my wifi speeds average between 250-350 but with the Killer NIC they are all over the place. I find myself having to frequently reposition my laptop and wait for a browser page to load which is unacceptable for those speeds. In contrast I never had any issues with the Intel Wireless AC 7280. Not a one. I'm half tempted to replace the killer NIC with the older 7280. I also constantly get the reload page error constantly now in the 2nd pic. Never saw that ever before on any of my other laptops, Ipad, or Iphone speed test. Personally I think Dell suffers from the same issue as Asus. Great hardware but crappy drivers and BIOS.

 

I agree. The Killer drivers have always been the biggest culprit. Some of the newer Killer cards are Intel cards just rebranded. So far the speeds and connectivity have been rock solid on my Wifi card. When installing the drivers I deselected the Dell portion and did not install the Killer bloatware suite.

Intel cards have always been solid. I still run the older Intel 8260 and 8265's in some of the other laptops. Rock solid.

Have you tried just installing the bare bones ini file? Or maybe just try installing the regular driver (not the killer suite bloat) and deselect the Dell part.

 

Right after I read that you only installed the driver it got me thinking. That said I have the killer suite set to not load with Windows startup. I've found it convoluted and unnecessary for gigabyte internet.