They do that even on budget gaming laptops such as Inspiron 5000/7000/g5/g7 where the CPU temps shoots upto 90C while GPU stays cooler at 70C. If the game uses Physics then the gaming experience will be crap.
Why can't Azor throw another fan since most of the manufacturers have them. We might even get AW Phone with Intel i7 8750h with 32GB DDr4x that will kill iphone XS.
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I don't think they've enough spare parts to spare for you. They would rather throw in the trash or get some new reviewers that praise AW.
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See the video. Azor said the tech for the new thin Alienware m15 is in short picked up from their thin Dell XPS models.
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Nice of you to post Digit.in interview. Hahaa.. It would have been better if I didn't watch it anyway!!
I stopped watching after 6 mins. G series costs below $1000 and AW costs above 1000$ when in turn G series 2000S and AW costs 5000$ for the top of the line laptops in India and also double up as heaters.Vistar Shook likes this. -
If it wasn't for the ugly bezel design and small 180 watt power supply I'd be more excited for this. Bringing back nebula red though is a nice touch. These laptops look better with some color.
Plus there is no heat shield in this unit. So repasting will be alot easier. I hope they continue this moving forward with the larger laptops. If they don't get phased out.
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What sucks is that the first bathes are always worse until people complain about thermals and they fix the thermal pads etc. But the cycle repeats. Now people are finally receiving decent units of the 15R4/17R5's Just as I received a decent unit of my 15R3 after it was already released for a year. I guess it will be the same as the previous gens, need better thermal pads, better paste and it will run fine after.
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They've kind of admitted an m17 is coming in the product info for the new backpack for these models:
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/accessories/apd/aa352187win32asmguy likes this. -
I suppose you meant batches. Dell is playing with consumers as Highly un-paid HW GP's with batches. Its complete nutjob when you're paying 2000$+Tax/VAT+import duty to get worst AW laptops which has good marketing and less performance and cost/perf ratio is usually negative value.Vistar Shook likes this.
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
No one is making you buy it.....if you get a bad unit, make them replace it until it is performing as it should be
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I think if you base your opinion only on negative comments on forums etc you could tend to see it that way but from my experience a lot of people are happy with their machines and dont have issues. Unhappy people are statistically more vocal.
In the end i still believe from my personal testing and owning various laptops that AW is up there, the prices in Europe are the same by the way. But from the messages that I see the newer batches seem to be better. Just as mine R3 which didnt had that big uneven core temp differences, which I initially ruined by doing a repaste without a repad.Spartan@HIDevolution and JTOverath like this. -
I never say they're bad if there're really good. I'm no hater.
15 r3 new batches were okay but newer iterations are utter garbage.
Sadly we can't return any laptops at all, we've to live with it replacing parts only. India don't have return period and 30 day money back guarantee unless you use Paypal which isn't widespread in small shops.Vistar Shook, ThePerfectStorm, Rei Fukai and 1 other person like this. -
Might be a stupid question but I never have seen a GTX 1060 OC GPU so besides having higher clocks how much more performance will you see than from a standard GTX 1060? Are they just cherrypicked 1060’s ? Can you OC them even further like you can other GPU’s?
How much difference in performance should one expect from the GTX 1060 OC vs the GTX 1070 MQ?
Just trying to figure if upgrading is worth it since you can always use the AW Amp and put in whatever desktop GPU you want.Vistar Shook likes this. -
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I think all they do is boost clocks by like 5% or something. Supposedly they also don't lock down the firmware/TDP like many other OEMs. In this chasis, I'd be surprized if they didn't pull some firmware / TDP trickery though.
A properly overclocked GTX 1060 will perform just shy 10% of the GTX 1070 MQ. I am not sure how well you can overclock MQs, but I suppose you could squeeze some more MHz out of that too.Last edited: Oct 31, 2018Vistar Shook likes this. -
MaxQs powerthrottle quite quickly though. But the llwer memory bandwidth and less cuda cores are hard to overcome by overclocking a 1060 though.c69k likes this.
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Eeeeh. Maybe. I don't have much doubt they will eventually. Alienware does tend yo take there time though. LolVasudev likes this.
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I tried to order one unit online, however they don't accept cards outside US, I have given up on it, what would you suggest, Blade, MSI or Asus in the same category? My biggest concern are thermals. Thank you
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Asus then. Has best out of the box thermals.
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Thank you
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win32asmguy Moderator Moderator
Here you go:
http://www.hidevolution.com/custom-...-1060-or-1070-max-q-90whr-battery-silver.html
While you are at it, choose the $95 repaste option to address your biggest concern.Spartan@HIDevolution, Vistar Shook, Snearl and 1 other person like this. -
Perfect, thank you
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Whelp, doubt I'll get mine on 11/15 as expected. I checked the status this morning and found it was pushed back to 11/20. Emailed support and was asked to call, so I did. After 45 mins and 3 support analysts, found out that Dell had an "internal error" at the time of my order being placed and that it's on hold indefinitely. Support advised I cancel my order and reorder it, which I approved. Took them over 30 minutes to cancel my order. Once they did, they then advised the silver is no longer in stock. Currently waiting on a call back from the "manager" to try and rectify this, but not looking so good as I went through two support agents already. In fairness to Dell, their support agents have been very friendly and helpful - outside of not disclosing the silver being out of stock before cancelling my original order. They also did refund the initial order, so no worries there either. I've tweeted Umar and Frank from Alienware to see if they can make something happen but doubtful on that.
Trying to get a solid laptop for the last few months has been akin to listening to the Benny Hill theme on repeat.Last edited: Oct 30, 2018CSHawkeye81 likes this. -
Yeah I am having a similar issue as apparently mine now is on hold due to a parts issue with the 90WHR battery. Not too happy, might just cancel it and end up going back to a Razer Blade 15.
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Wow fortunately I wanted nebula red so my order seems to still be on track. I had a nebula red m18x back in the day which I loved so nostalgia won me over!
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Yes. I got the 1070/16gb/256/144 with the 90whr.
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Ah ok, yeah my EDD is still the 14th of November but customer service is saying there is a parts delay/shortage on the 90WHR battery. I ordered my laptop within minutes of the laptop going on sale.
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Oh great, I probably also have that to look forward to. Surely it is just a similar battery to the xps. Well let’s just keep our fingers crossed
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Dell made it right. I called back a few hours later and after being transferred 4 times in 15 minutes I got a very, very friendly and polite customer service agent. She immediately identified my concern and was able to push the order through. She further discounted the unit $30 and added a free year of on-site warranty for the trouble.
New total: $1905 (30 less than before, plus a free 2nd year of onsite warranty)
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I thought the same, checking the pros and cons of each laptop, also considering to take a couple more months to pull the trigger on a system, I want to know how the thermals behave, I really wanted to be an early adopter, but it seems the odds are against it
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
I am waiting for more user reviews and hopefully a Black Friday incentive
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What's the PSU size on this? it's probably different for the 1060 and the 1070 versions.
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
Looks like both 130W and 180W will be offered
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Yeah shame about them spontaneously failing to charge batteries or generally having terrible power delivery systems while simultaneously being one of the few remaining OEMs that still solders the damn DC jack to the motherboard.
You'd have to give me an asus gaming laptop for free to get me to consider using it and even then i'd probably still sell it and buy something else.rinneh likes this. -
At least it doesn’t burn up the DC cable as in the Alienware’s
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Oh you're absolutely right, I'd rather have to replace the entire motherboard than a 20 dollar part.
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I’m doing the same.
Thing is next gen GPU’s should be out relatively soon and I just cant see myself spending $2000+ on a new laptop with “old” hardware.
1xxx series is great but I’ll be kicking myself in the ass if I get one early and then 5-6 months later a new model comes out with a better GPU.
Anyone else happy to see the lighting more subdued with this model?
Update
https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDI...coming-soon-confirms-Frank-Azor.354276.0.html
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lmao. How are they going to manage a 2080 maxq?? a 1070maxq hits 80c+ on this. TEN SEVENTY.
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
Maybe it is just me, but 80c tells me there is still thermal headroom
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That's also a valid reason to be patient. I personally don't like the lights on a gaming machine I have turned them off in the last 2 AW I've had, I like the versatility in style of the new model, would have preferred it with a black lid and matte screen bezels though
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
Also, in the AMA video, they did say that the m15 was designed to handle the 1080 max-q so the thermals should be able to handle that or a 2080 max-q I would think
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look at the video ive posted. it cant even handle 1070MQ.. ****ty stock paste + crap dellienware pads.. they will never improve..
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These cards throttle at 85c. You really think a 2080maxq willl stay under that for more than an hour? Maybe we can manage it with some LM, we'll see.
I go by what we see in results, not what the company says. Results are showing it's almost hitting the limit of 1070maxq right now.Last edited: Oct 31, 2018Vasudev likes this. -
Are the results really surprising at this point?
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The CPU temperatures are more interesting, i would say. Hitting 97*C at 13:50 (full clock) and later (32:14) the clock stays under 3ghz at 83*C.
Probably undervolting the CPU would help, but out of the box the temperatures are high, in summer this could turn into a problem.
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Its strange. first it reaches quite a high temp (similar to the GS65) but the second half is at 85c which would be decent for the size. Not sure whats up.
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
The GPU throttles at 85c?! Why would it be set so low? The silicon can easily handle higher temps safely
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Impressive work from AW yet again! CPU hits at 98C and GPU stays at 70C at 1.5GHz which is awfully bad than 980M. If it sells like hotcakes its better for XPS lineups.
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