*OFFICIAL* Alienware m15 Owner's Lounge

Unbelievable. Even m15 R1 already ships with 9th gen. Not to mention competing 9th gen laptops which have normal SODIMMs, for example

https://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-GE75-Raider-9SG-Core-i9-9880H-RTX-2080-Laptop-Review.420559.0.html

https://www.aorus.com/product-detail.php?p=1101&t=35&t2=&t3=

Oh, and the new thin Aero: 2 slots, max 64GB, 94Whr battery. Feel like returning my m15 R1 to grab that bad boy lol

https://www.gigabyte.com/uk/Laptop/AERO-15--Intel-9th-Gen#sp

TBH the fact that Azor didn't know the basic specs of the laptop he was presenting is not great. Really, it also puts all their other claims in question.

I think Angry Joe should review the m15 R2!

* Viewer discretion is advised.

 

I'm absolutely sure he knew about this. He just wanted to avoid bringing out the bad news. Let the others take the noise first He know the design in and out!

 

Yikes....so 16GB max for now then.

 

What is better than force the customers to buy all ram from Dell? More models sold with maxed out specs will bring more money back to the company!

 

So apperently it was to make a "better keyboard" and "better thermals"

We'll have to see about that. They will offer 32GB in the future but the issue is Dell will charge too much.

 

Will this help the buyers who jump on the new models once it's released for sale? Maybe Dell can offer a cheap deal on new Motheboards and tech support for those who want to upgrade to more ram when this become reality

 

Is it single or dual channel, I'm afraid to ask. Most of those customers who would be happy to buy a $1.7k-$3k laptop with soldered RAM are unlikely to ask, and single channel RAM would take up less motherboard space.

 

16GB is 2x8GB whereas 8GB is 1x8GB so highly recommend 16GB.

 

So, SODIMMs, which in the R1 are almost flush with the mobo, proved to be height-limiting, and not the heatsink? How thin is it in R2?

 

Unbelievable, couldn't be asked to at least give those poor souls going for an 8GB gaming laptop dual channel RAM.

 

Don’t full trust notebookcheck, Blade has lower power limit but overall performance it’s still better than 8750H, look at average run on that half hours, not mentioned about better thermal. If you want you can also unlock power limit with bios moding, and get more cpu performance.

 

It seems that Dell is pulling an Apple with the m15 R2 by sacrificing battery life and upgradability for aesthetics.

 

Yes, I'm not sure why they were running the CPUs at different power levels. Still, other reviews corroborate the general idea that the 2 CPUs are very close in real performance, as we would expect given the same architecture, number of cores, and power limits. Any slight increase in max clock on the 9750 doesn't really matter in multithreaded benchmarks because neither CPU can run at max speed under full load beyond short boost within the tiny packages and cooling solutions offered by Razer and Alienware.

 

Looking at notebookcheck's review, the AERO Classic XA is increadibly noisy and throttles quite a bit...

 

Yeah, it seems noisier than the m15 - 56dB vs 49dB at full load which is about the same as larger laptops. Benchmarks are not bad, but to be fair completely destroy the Blade.

 

Watch your comment, as I said before don’t trust 100% notebookcheck, they use balanced mode which locked tdp to 25watt on cpu test on Blade that’s why score low. Look at gaming performance, Blade is more senior on this thin light category.

And this the thermal, Aero is hot like hell, oh yeah of course you can repasting and undervolting it though.

 

I think you may be right:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Razer...TX-2070-Max-Q-FHD-Laptop-Review.402631.0.html

Looking at their "stress test" the CPU temp was 60C which def suggests power in that 25W ballpark. On the other hand, it does point out the fact that Razer throttles TDP quite heavily in the default balanced mode to contain the temps... at the expense of performance.

 

I think I know quite good about Blade
Yeah with Razer’s thermal issue in the past i think they want to play safety since not all user have tweaking knowledge so it’s kind Apple power limit but with no thermal throttle which is good for some users. I can use @hackness from MSI forum imon tweak to get rid from that power throttle, and get normal “hot”er 8750H performance. Idk on which tdp we’re running since it fools the sensor but it runs 3,9 or even sometimes 4,1 on some cores.

 

Apparently they did commit to it.

Out of all of the thin and lights, this thing better be a notch above the rest when it comes to thermal performance to justify the space they saved by soldering the memory.

 

Idk how you achieved running the CPU at 60W with 83C temp, were you benching from an igloo in Greenland? Looks suspect TBH, even if you repasted with LM.

 

They seem to be on drug when designing the laptop, 16GB is definately not enough for some of us. And soldered RAM... This is just beyong ridicules.

 

I never repasting my device within 2 years gaming usage, LM, you can forget, anytime I saw red values out of box on my setting it is directly RMA to me. I wish I live in Greenland so i can keep the temperature in 70ish areas GAMING. But I live in sunny hot summer day country and ambient maybe 24 or so.

You need learning more about tweaking, I meant software, and read more other brands forum, because even it states on xtu 60 watt, doesn’t mean it runs on that tdp,

 

You forgot what he have. Look into brother @etern4l's hardware sig.


See also...
Dell AW Tech Support : Your m15 is built to withstand temperature of 100 degrees C. Don't worry. But, don't touch the metal plate in front of the keyboard, it can get hot.

 

Razer & Apple to Alienware 2018~

 

Wow, now, why did you pull that weak score screenshot, Professor Super Tweaker? Represent that thin Razer performance with pride!

Anyway, your result was 90fps and 1200 cb at 83C. Indeed, CB15 is pretty weak and runs quite cool compared with CB20, here is what I got at 79C max CPU temp (way less during the OpenGL test):



Not too late to flog that weak iFruit Blade and get yourself an m15 R1 bro

 

OpenGL is graphics test of course your 2070maxq would performs way better. Yeah maybe I’ll try later another shoot on cinebench too lazy changing this and that on Bios. I play games not play cinebench lol.
Idk I see laptops first from look, I like better r2 aesthetic, but like also r1 nebula though doesn’t like the bezel. In term performance I’ve 2080egpu setting that can blow all 2080maxq laptops

 

Why would you trust Cinebench OpenGL benchmark? It’s utter trash. My older 980 even scores higher than the faster and newer 1070/1080.

Also the older and much weaker 980m perform better than some 1070/1080 in that graphics test.

And not forget... The damn cheap Walmart Overpowered laptops with equal processor scores higher in the pure Cinebench R15 Cpu test than what you two showing

 

Yeah, and I just sit here all day and benchmark bro lol Good luck though, maybe you can beat the CPU score at least. My point was that your result and 83C temp wasn't anything special, unlike what you portrayed it as. If you are going to stress the CPU, use something like CB20.

Thanks for sharing. Sure, and I have a 1200W desktop which will blow any laptop clean out of the water if needed, so what? We are talking iFruit Blade vs m15 here BTW your TB3 eGPU isn't much to brag about in an Alienware thread either, i.e. compared to AGA - 40% performance loss when using built-in display at higher framerates, ouch.

I don't use CB15 at all, nor do I care about OpenGL - just humouring our Master Tweaker Bro @Joikansai who wanted to show us how awesome his tweaked iFruit Blade is. Not sure, what Walmart laptop you are referring to, TBH.

 

I know that only answered my bro @etrn4l

That is why I’m spotting here, want to pull trigger with better AGA for egpu setting, but I hate being not plug and play like TB3 egpu, I’ve two ultrabook that take advantage from TB3.
Yeah I can imagine you bringing that 1200watt Desktop that can blow any laptop, like this I suppose ouch

It’s been talked long time best performance for bucks laptop, but again not my favorite laptop.

 

You aren't that quick, are you? As shown earlier, if I want to blow a razerboi out of the water, all I need is my m15

 

I haven’t the model number in my head right now. Will post it later(I’m out now). A rather unknown brand you got for around $1000 usd on Walmart.

 

*on edit* Papusan is referring to the Overpowered 15 laptop, I paid $799 for mine:



I think we've strayed from the topic long enough, and got personal enough...

 

Very nice machine on paper, not really $1k but still well priced at $1400. Just 47Whr battery though, so ultimately not for me. I think I can live with 30 lower CB15 score

https://www.walmart.com/ip/OVERPOWE...256-SSD-1TB-HDD-16GB-RAM-Windows-10/510869060

 

Now the price is increased before was lower.
https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/walmarts-dirt-cheap-gaming-laptop-back-sale

Dude I’m only visitor here, not always watching this thread busy gaming We don’t have equivalent specs laptops but if you want number here’s your result right? Not fair comparison though
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/19471389/fs/16524814#
For real is this if you’ve maxq 1070, I think this’s fruit to fruit comparison with m15 1070maxq 8750H.

 

You've just posted a barely higher eGPU score which 3DMark for some reason registered as 1070-MaxQ. The 11GB memory and clock stats gave it away:

Memory
11,264 MB
Core clock
2,085 MHz
Memory bus clock
7,300 MHz

I think @custom90gt has a point, you know...

 

You got the point, you cannot comparing 1070 and 2070 maxq as well, and yes 3Dmark reads not always right as your memory, it didn’t detect also second gpu. It’s included your core clock.

 

17550/15214 = approx. 15% to be precise. FireStrike is a bit old. How is your 1070 MQ faring on TImeSpy? BTW RTX does bring some new features to the table. DLSS actually comes in quite handy at 4K.
I didn't pay 1K extra for the 2070 compared with some available and plausible 1070 models. AFAIR 1070 wasn't available on the m15.

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Alienware-m15-i7-8750H-GTX-1070-Max-Q-Laptop-Review.374921.0.html

 

Hi. Has anyone tried to replace the thermal pads in the M15 heatsink? (Specially the cpu pad that seems really thick)

I replaced my thermal paste with IC Graphite and got excellent results, but im trying to lower the temps a bit more if is possible.

Greetings

 

I think it's 2mm. Might want to try 1.5mm, make sure you get contact with the underlying chokes, or use 2mm well compressible pad like Gelid Gp-extreme.

 

I was going to try Artic 1mm, because the stock ones seems a bit thick. Do you think that those could work?

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IMHO 1mm will def be too thin. 1.6-1.7mm would be ideal.

 

I've edited a couple of posts. @etern4l & @Joikansai, we are done here with your back and forth.

 

i've used K5 Pro instead of the yellow pads on both the CPU and the GPU. And is working fine, along with LM on CPU and IC Diamond 24 on the GPU. Other Pads, i left there what was alredy installed at factory

 

Did you see any improvement? Im just waiting for my pads to arrive today.

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Check the m15/m17 BIOS 1.6.2 thread, i'm happy with the temperatures i've got Doesn't throttle, doesn't overheat. I do believe that because of the nature of K5 Pro, it helps with the heatsink mounting. The mark left by the vrm components on the original thermal pads were clear sign of them being way too thick.

I'll do a repaste of LM in a couple of months, seems i got it right at the first instance. Consider that after the repaste i had a long travel trip (4 flight, 32 hours overall travel) i bring the laptop with me every day from the lifecamp were i am to the site office of the project i'm following, in the middle of the desert. If done right, LM will last and won't spill.

Will do a Cinebench run tonight from my room, and post it tomorrow with temperatures, but it is night and day difference from when i got it stock.

Edit, yesterday had a pretty busy day, here it is, CB20 figures,



When i'll be back home i'll try to address the core differentials, but i don't feel in an hurry especially since the main use of this machine for me is gaming and while gaming temps are lower and way more even that on CB, i guess it depends by how different games use the CPU. (i doubt any of them take full advantage of the 6 cores)

 

@CptXabaras. Those are amazing temps!
Was thinking about repasting with Kryonaut. I think I will try to also replace the thermal pads with K5 pro. I've looked at my heatsink and clearly the pads are too thick. The screws aren't screwed all the way down. Tried to do it but it was eating the screws. I've never heard about k5 pro before but if I can get near your temps I'll be really happy!

 

Just to point out: thermal conductivity of K5 Pro is specified as 5.3W/mK, whereas Gelid GP-Extreme is rated as 12W/mK. Fujipoly is even better but seems a bit hard to get hold off outside the US.

 

So...Kryonaut for the cpu and gpu and Gelid GP-Extreme as replacement for the thermal pads would be best? Which size? (Don't want to try LM yet as I've never repasted a computer before so I'll stick with the non conductive to be on the safe side.)

 

Just to clarify in case anyone has doubt,

I've applied K5 PRO only on the VRM of CPU and GPU, to get rid of the thick "gummy" like yellow pads in there. The idea behind that was to have something that would mold itself over the components without opposing any resistance at being compressed. The rest has original pads, and i've pasted the CPU with LM, GPU with IC Diamond 24