*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

Nope. Intel doesn’t support PCIe 4.0 standards.

And I’m pretty sure Dell haven’t added in support for Rocket lake.

Checked undervolt adjustments?

 

Still working

 

I like G-Sync. A high end GPU won't be high end forever.

 

But, are there technical reasons that would block the new cards from working on the R1 machines? E.g. a VBIOS stored on the mainboard instead of on the card, a heatsink incompatibility or perhaps the insufficient VRM (since the TDP on the 2080 Super increased to 250W)?

Otherwise, they said that they won't be offering this upgrade path, but the cards might still technically work. Somebody will try that sooner or later I guess, but these Super cards are probably not worth bothering, anyway.

Now, a DGFF Ampere card on the other hand.. Not sure how far ahead is the release of the mobile Ampere cards, but since they have to clear the Super stock first, probably won't be too soon.

 

lol nothing like pushing it to the limit!! I have myn set at 82

 

How do you change that file to a zip file to get access to moving the thermal limit from 75?

 

Be brave, be like Spartan...

Edit: I just tried playing Need For Speed Heat and the game was simply unplayable, it was very choppy and the FPS keeps dropping to like 15 FPS so the latest BIOS has the thermal throttling issue. I don't know how anyone could use this laptop with a BIOS other than 1.3.2 or 1.5.0, it is simply not useable!

 

Do you have SGX turned off in your bios? Are changes you make in the Alienware command center GUI actually taking effect?

CVE-2019-11157 is plundervolt so you should not be able to undervolt with this new bios if SGX is enabled.

...unless of course Dell botched this too.

 

I want the SD card reader from the R2.

 

I would like both honestly. 300hz is awesome and all, but you don’t always get that super high frame rate in games. Games like RDR2 you kinda need g-sync if want the game to look as smooth as possible. And let’s not forget CDPROJEKT RED has a habit of releasing games that crush current gen hardware. So CyberPunk 2077 will likely not run over 100hz on ultra. If that high. And those are the main types games I play so I’d love to have g-sync.

However I agree that once you get near that 200hz and over mark that G-Sync is pretty pointless.

 

Mmmm..... So my top specced A-51m.... Is officially not upgradeable as stated categorically by Dell.... Hence can I get a refund or R2 for false advertising?In Australia we have this thing called the law that is backed up by the ACCC!

 

People need to just give up the fantasy that the A51M R1 will ever support 2666....

 

put the limit at 79 in AWCC and it works according to specification

 

Im sure they’d get out of it somehow. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think dell promised upgrade ability to the next gen hardware. Probably what they meant is if you bought an RTX 2070 with a 8700 cpu at launch you could upgrade to an RTX 2080 and 9900K later. So technically that would count towards their “You can upgrade it” marketing.

You can give it a try if you want. Not saying it would work. But you’ll never know until you try.

 

That's what they meant, but of course they took full advantage of buyer beware. It was marketing nonsense at its best. That being said, if you had half a brain you should know you were going to be limited on CPU and memory options. GPU, there was some hope that a 3000-series card would come around, but when they clearly went arbitrarily and changed the screw holes, they gave the middle finger to all the A51M R1 owners.

They really should have just waited until the parts for the new socket was available, and held off a year.

 

I'm really curious now if the 3xxx series drop if the R2 will be upgradable.

 

I wouldn't hope too much given how they managed the Area 51m R1 updates, most likely also for R2 there will be no updates beyond 10900K and RTX 2080 Super

 

Oh I was preaching this day one. I fully expected it not to be upgrade ready for next gen stuff. But I liked the idea if my gpu went bad I could swap out for a new one. Or maybe get a lower end cpu and get a delidded high end one down the road. So it had possibilities. But this is a big middle finger to the R1 owners. But that’s just how dell rolls sadly.

But why wait a year when you can sell the beta tester version today?!

 

If you have the quote about upgradability 'within same family', since this is true for 2080/2080S, its your best shot.

 

So the m17 r3 and m15 r3 have the exact same design of the previous version...gheez

meaning inverted motherboard..makes my choice to go with m17 r1 this last month that more sensible

Does alienware and Dell listen to their consumer base or are they completely deaf?

How do you continually push a design that limits supposed gamers from reducing temperatures and upgrading it's components

Was wondering whether i should have waited longer to get my hands on the new super line-up but after just 2 weeks of usage i was already running hot, and running out of rams, soon after i've upgraded my rams to 32gb and re-pasted yesterday, taking away these two features are a deal breaker for any self respecting gamer.

 

Still don't know how to create that zip file to get the marker too move from 75???

 

edit: same goes for KS

 

You don't create it! It's there the moment you install OC Controls! you just have to set it as read-only

1) Install Command Center

2) Install OC Controls but when asked to reboot, don't reboot just yet

3) Navigate to the following folder:
C:\Program Files\Alienware\Alienware Command Center\OCControlService

4) Right click on the file named Profiles.zip then click on Properties

5) At the bottom of the Properties page, check the box which says "Read-only", hit Apply, then Ok

6) Now you can reboot

 

Like all of you, I'm also bummed out with the r2 news... I bought my r1 in February this year with max gpu and cpu. In terms of performance difference, how much of a difference will there be between the r1 and r2? Is it going to be that much to lose sleep over? BTW... I would not be surprised if they make a compatible version of this new gpu available to the r1. It would be crazy if they they just give the middle finger to the ppl that went ahead and bought the r1 with upgrades in mind

 

For gaming it will be minimal. The real upgrade will be when the 3xxx series comes out.

 

And what makes you think that Dell will release GPU upgrades for the R2?
They already aren't doing so and its just a pretty minor difference in the GPUs..
When the 3xxx comes out they will just sell the new, improved and WORLDS MOST UPGRADABLE LAPTOP the A51m R3...

 

That hurt more that it should have...

 

Dell does not care about your feelings says the angel on my shoulder.. only about your wallet reasures the angel me. If Dell won't care about you, vote with your wallet says the angel. i feel better i think you should too. A company is created to make profit, not do charity (else it would be an charity organization). Just give them an F back by informing everyone how bad they are and they should not buy an Dell. There are not much brands left. but i would rather buy an cheap bga medion laptop than invest in any of the American/Taiwanese brands (looking at you Gigabyte)

 

I was so close to getting the top an Area 51, thank God i didnt. This is just another example of Intel making you purchase new motherboards to match to there over priced CPU. Going to stick with building a new desktop based on AMD Ryzen. At least ill havd an upgrade path

 

vote with your wallet is indeed easy, problem is i don't see 1 alternative that i would buy. That said, i'm still enjoying my 51m everyday and it's the best laptop i ever had. I do have a first batch with gsync and 1.5.0 and will stay on that till the end.

 

I have the first batch as well BIOS 1.3.2, best combo

 

This is how to do it?


I have command centre do I uninstall and then reinstall to follow your guide/video?

 

AMD is just as bad to create new sockets..

 

What specs did you get? The 2080 vs 2080 super isn’t that big of a difference. The 2070 super is just shy of a 2080 though. So that’s a nice bump up from before the refresh.

The real upgrade is the screens. A 300hz 1080p and a 4K panel are really nice and both can take advantage of the powerful hardware in this machine. I’ll be curious if anyone can get they’re hands on the new screens and upgrade the screens on the R1.

 

I bought the maxed out 2080,i wanted to make sure I can run the games on high for a while you know

 

In complete fairness, this still _is_ an advantage of a an R1 as long as there are parts.

 

Very true. Hopefully dell has the motherboard and gpu’s for awhile for that to be a reality. Everything else can be bought 3rd party. But I’m worried they stopped making those modules unless they’re gonna offer them in the R2 also?

 

I expect you won't buy the GA. If you prefer be on old firmware you'll loose " Enhanced compatibility of the Alienware Graphics Amplifier for new generation graphics card". The nice thing with proprietary design You are forced to upgrade firmware to take advantage from it.

And I love this one... They promote Media card as a new needed feature for the modern gamers. Why not put it in when they designed the orginal? Media Card readers have been here for decades in all types laptops and from all brands. Even those sub $200 Jokebook models. Here, promoted as a must have feature. As something completely new.

 

When are they releasing the R2 anyway?

 

Available June 9th. Still time buying the R1.

 

It's again the sports car problem with gaming laptops; you get a fussy, high performing creation that is inherently going to suffer some kind of engineering flaws. I use my A51M right now for hours at time each day, enjoy the Gsync, and since I got a reasonable price on it, it's fit the bill overall. Being able to theoretically replace a few key parts if the go bad, or possibly upgrade the CPU/GPU if it works out is a plus. That being said, a Gsync laptop with a 2070 mobile and 9700K with 64 GB RAM even at 2400 and M.2 drives is nothing to feel bad about if you got it for a good price and can bear to carry it around.

 

I am also an original owner running 1.3.2 bios and still loving it! I am angry about the jedi mind trick tactics of the Dell/Alienware R1 organization now portraying this notebook as being upgradeable only in its own generation. This will be my last alienware notebook. I dont foresee them making ampere/3000 series an upgradeable component even in the R2 nevermind the R1. I mainly game and video render so the R2 would be a marginal update for me at this point. The way Intel does business I figured the CPU in the R1 would not be upgradeable. I was hoping against hope about the ampere/3000 series upgrade though. From the previews of the 10900K that will be a SUPER hot CPU. I doubt if that vapor chamber they are initiating in the R2 will keep it cool enough to run 5.3 on all cores. Also if Intel/Dell/Alienware lock out the ability to undervolt the R2 will be the Alienware 17 R5 with a 8950HK all over again. SMH........

 

I'm been looking to replace my ageing Alienware 14 with this Area 51m but giving I'm working on a vessel, didn't have the opportunity to do so, even worse the covid restrictions prevent me from going home. What I like is the ability to replace Cpu/gpu if they are faulty and also the keyboard is beveled. I hear about the incoming R2 version but did not like the keyboard. I will see if the R2 is better to buy or the R1 although I hear about the throttling GPU issues.

 

You mean , I still have time to sell my R1

 

To even get 5.3Ghz single core with thermal velocity boost, it has to be <70c.

 

People may prefer the non chiclet style keyboard and shy away from dealing with plundervolt.

 

Available to pre-order June 9th. Probably
Be 1-2 weeks into July before it ships or anyone receives one.

 

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They really only said they would try to make it upgradeable if they could, they never made a iron clad promise that it would happen. If you can find an official statement saying that the R1 will definitely be upgradeable for future generations then you'd have a case. Technically it is still upgradeable (for those who didn't originally max it out).
I was having this discussion after the original release with a few people as many of us felt that it was an empty statement to lure the old enthusiasts into getting back into Alienware but a lot of people really put their trust in Dell.
I never pulled the trigger on the 51M because I had my doubts regarding their 'promise' to make it truly upgradeable and unfortunately they proved themselves unreliable and untrustworthy. I'll continue to enjoy my old legacy machines and remember the good old days.

 

[email protected] all cores in a laptop? Already a damn heavy task in an desktop with proper cooling. This if you got an ok chips able to run at that clock speed. Stock clocks can easly eat 230W package power. What you think it will pull with 5.3GHz overclock?

https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/news/intel-core-i9-10900k-stress-test

Yeah, still time sell it and then start all over again


For those who purchased the weaker graphics. Not much help from Dell.

Alienware 51m R1 GPU upgrade kits

 

Even 8 cores at 5.2Ghz is going to take some serious modding and binning. So two additional cores on same 14nm+++ node at 5.3Ghz? Lets not kid anyone