*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

How is it doing, still on the first one or already a replacement? I have a GE75 9SG with 9750H and 2080 but I feel like CPU power is lacking.

 

Any of you guys play Modern Warfare and are on the latest Nvidia drivers of 441.12? I'm not sure if it was the new update to the game or the nvidia driver but I was getting around 150fps before with all settings maxxed on a 1440p external monitor but now i'm around 59-90. Curious if any of you guys are running the same setup and noticed similar results. All my temps and clocks it is running at are the same on the 2080. Might just have to go back to the driver before this one if it doesn't improve.

 

Can't say if the new drivers tank performance, but the game is kinda broken for me. If I turn RTX ON, I get DX error. With RTX OFF the game is mostly stable, but sometimes it still crashes.

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Is RTX the Ray tracing stuff? If so I have that turned off

 

Yes, but on the New Modern Warfare it just improves shadows. Really not that much of a drastic change.

For me RTX is more important on the single player campaign because that is kind of a cinematic experience. For multiplayer, RTX of is the way to go.

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I'm running a first gen Area-51m with no issues. Never had any replacement. @EepoSaurus is another member on first gen Area-51m without issues.

I doubt going from your current computer to a Area-51m will give you a big performance boost.

I am assuming that 2080 is a Max-Q model so in that department it will be faster, but by how much? I think you would be better off waiting for 3080 next year for a real powerful upgrade.

CPU you have is 6-cores? In gaming it won't make much of a difference, unless you are using apps that use up 100% of your CPU then a i9-9900K might be better.

 

My thought exactly. I'm not sure about how much difference I would see between the 2070 and 2080 and if it justify the price difference, considering that I could update in the future to a next model for a real upgrade.
I have to say, I'm not sure about the CDPU either. My desktop is almost 8 years old, runs on a i7-3770 and I am still doing everything very smoothly. I wonder if there is really the need to go to the i9 or the i7 would not be more than enough...

 

I'm also running a first gen 51m with 9700K and 2080. Never had any issues and i have not repasted the machine, i don't really see the need to. I'm on 1.5.0 and the 200w vbios.

While playing RDR2 for example my gpu does not exceed 74-77 and the gpu stays cool at around 70-75.

If my temps will go up then i will repaste. I have 1 year on site warranty but gonna extend it next year to 4 just for ease of mind.

 

Full RTX 2080, 150W TDP limit. Currently running 1700MHz @ 0.85V. Seems to be the sweet spot.
I'm getting fed up with the CPU though, with it's constant 95-100*C temps even after repasting unless I severely limit it to ~40W / 3.6-3.8GHz in Throttlestop because it shares the same heatpipes as the GPU and I think I got bad silicon - 20*C delta between cores. This is my repasted and fully undervolted 9750H i Aida64: https://i.imgur.com/P2VtOG3.png


When gaming the CPU temp goes up like 10-12*C after the GPU warms up, there you really have to UV both as much as possible, however my GPU temps are amazing, around 66-69*c in the latest GRID on max settings.

I asked about 51M because Dell now has a 15% discount on these and I can get the base spec but with 9900k/2080/G-Sync for ~€2880, that's about €500 discount and I think I can really use more computing power because that 9750H feels crippled.

 

My 2080 is running 200w vBIOS. It runs at around 1905-1860Mhz depending on load at 0.950v. So performance will be slightly better.

My 9900K can run at full speed all day at 4.7Ghz stock with a -100mV but it runs hot (only because I am using carbonaut, I need to switch back to paste)

With that said you are looking at least at a 50%+ increase in performance so I guess it would be worth it.

 

I was testing in Unigine Heaven and my 2080 started to hit pwr perfcap from about ~0.83-0.85V on. However the temps were low. I'm considering getting the 1 yr. Plus warranty as it seems like these laptops either work perfectly from day 1 or break down in a couple of days / weeks.

 

When you start doing substantial undervolts, the GPU reports Power throttling, but if you check GPU power, that is not the case.

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From what I remember, when doing big UV on the GPU it should throttle on something like "Vrel"?
I tried furmark for the sake of comparison and in furmark it drops to 1365MHz / 0.71V due to power limiting.

 

How do you get that discount? Not seeing online or in any search

 

It's on the Dutch site at least, AW15 is the code.

 

does not help
the problem was in "fan" profile in AWCC
i was thinking it just a fan profiles
but seems to be not
i set "lower temp" thinking it will speed up fans more then "balanced"
instead speeding up fans it lowering power consumption by power limiting
so I just set Balanced and all goes normal
I undervolted 2080 to 0.9v 1900mhz and it eats 140-150w in unigine valley
at 0.85v and 1850mhz it eats 120-130w which is great. gpu temp about 67-71

 

you have very poor contact beetween cpu and its heatpipes. try to screw your socket more tightly.

 

1st gen and running strong. My temps are pretty damn good on the gpu and cpu. I wonder what the actual failure rate of the 51m's is. Mine seems built to last. I repasted but that was mostly cause i had cracked the machine open to look around. I saw no temp difference in switching to kryonaut.

 

I'm still hesitating but damn the A51m is tempting. It's just that I lug the laptop every time to work and the GE75 is light as a feather considering it's a full RTX2080 notebook, not to mention that it can run almost all work day on single charge when doing office tasks when it's limited to 5-10W TDP (perfectly sufficient for youtube, web browsing etc.).

What kind of scores do you guys get in Time Spy on your A51m? My MSI does 9836 with undervolt and after some GPU updooting in Afterburner. https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/40848496?

 

Sounds like you have a good laptop already. This laptop is not light and it takes two psus. Even with 1 780w psu it is bulky. The battery life is actually pretty good and could run all day if you limit power. The big plus is build quality. Alienware makes any other laptop feel like it was made of the cheapest plastic they could find. I'd stick with the msi since it sounds like you are used to it.

 

Just randomly looked up one of my results:

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/7167581

I'm curious to know how you're getting all day battery on the Area-51m. I can get 1 1/2 hours, 2 when I am lucky.

 

I can get 3 hours but thats just by dropping to balanced and power saver. I assume if you adjust power settings you can get more. Not sure though as i rarely use mine. Maybe its the 8700k?

 

Are you finding your feet bro? Get the fans on full speed and smash a gaming session! Hope you are happy or get all the hassles sorted!

 

I have mine set to "better battery" in windows 10.

I'll try power saver but I think my brightness might be much higher than yours.

I don't think 8700K vs 9900K should make an hour difference since I have all the power savings enabled for CPU.

 

What about AWCC? that supersedes all power settings. I wouldn't think the 8700k would make a difference either. Just throwing it out there.

 

Hmm I'll have to take a look later when I am home. I know I have thermal set to balanced. I think power was balanced too.

 

I have this issue time ago, let tobii ru

Reduce the OC if you have that error!

 

Check the scaling in MW settings... when I tried the beta and updated drivers in geforce experience, it automatically increased the game scaling to 120% or something stupid, making my frames drop from 144 to ~100 on 1080p

Higher internal resolution and downscaling is THE STUPIDEST way to lose frames. I don’t understand why anyone came up with such and idiotic idea. I’d rather have a good AA setting on with native resolution, looks just as good and you get more frames.

 

Let tobii ru?

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Both i7-8700K and as mentioned below (9700K)... Will puke less heat over on graphics.

And 9900T will throw even less heat over on graphics. Less power consumption will help the whole power delivery to survive

Alienware 51M with i9-9900T

Just to tell people that the 51M is working properly with i9-9900T. I just changed my i9-9900k to an i9-9900T on this power horse. Less thermal, less power and not too much perf loss. The GPU sustain more high clock much longer since the thermal on the CPU are down, the GPU is a bit better cooled.

 

Where did you get a 9900T from? I don't see any listings for it.

 

I expect the firmware pick it up. Same also for 8700K... Not listed.

 

No i mean where'd you buy it boss. Sounds interesting. I found listings on ebay

 

Not mine I just put out some info.

 

In 2019, £4,300 for a machine that has less resolution than my mobile phone? I will personally wait for a new laptop, with better thermals, and this new 4K, 120Hz, 100% AdobeRGB panel from AUO.

 

Bbbbut....anything above 4k 60Hz is not possible beuase we don't have HDMI 2.1 yet. How are they going to do it, except massive compression?

@ssj92
If I use the standard power plan on my MSI, it will indeed drain itself empty in ~2 hours max.
The trick is to massively undervolt / TDP cap the CPU in XTU or TS at like 5-10W max.

Also with Optimus, sometimes there are wacky programs using the RTX on battery, you have to keep Afterburner etc. closed so it won't keep waking up the RTX. That way I can get a couple of hours out of it.

 

1080p is fine and 2080 cant truly handle 4k at 120hz unless low settings

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Yeah, I don't get much above 100FPS in FHD either.


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I took the plunge and bought the P775TM1-G w. 2080, 9900K and 144Hz G-Sync 1080p...
Alienware looks (and probably feels) much nicer, was a lot cheaper but there has been so much sh*t thrown on this model that I doubt I could ever resell it.

 

Any feedback using 9900KS on Area-51M?

 

Hasn’t that processor not launch yet? I think it’s about to launch. I saw a LinusTechTips video where Linus said it technically hasn’t released yet, when he was building a PC in Microcenter. So, it’s out there in store back rooms! I doubt many people have had a chance to get their hands on one, let alone someone with a 51m! It should work 100% fine, though; the KS is just a binned 9900K that achieves higher clocks with less Volts. It will still be one hot chip though, don’t expect miracles in thermals! Unless you downclocked it to match the 9900K and put in a serious undervolt (lower than what our 9900Ks can manage and be stable with today).

 

Launched already and for sale on eBay but starts at $690.

 

Ahh yes, a quick google search reveals it launched Oct. 30. Either way, I doubt anyone has tried it on a 51m yet, which was the question.

 

FYI to anyone considering the KS:


https://www.pcgamesn.com/intel/core-i9-9900ks-lower-ipc-9900k-cpu

Probably better off finding a binned K, will likely be cheaper or equal in price, and slightly faster!

 

What about a binned KS? can easily hits 5.3's

 

Thermal limits will make that a overclock in this chassis in my opinion... the 9900K is already on the “a bit too hot” side... haha look up overclocking benchmarks for the K. Overclocking increases power draw (and heat) pretty steeply in this chip. I can’t see it being very different on the KS.

Look at the tables at the bottom of this page: https://www.anandtech.com/show/13400/intel-9th-gen-core-i9-9900k-i7-9700k-i5-9600k-review/22

 

Of couse with mods like custom IHS, liquid metal, thermal pads and max fans.

 

Does anyone have a stock image of the 51m? I reinstalled windows but for the life of me csnt find all the drivers I need and just would prefer to install the stock image again

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Guys how much do you think the Area 51 is worth used? Looks like my travelling days are coming to an end so there is little point in having it anymore. Shame as I love it but may aswell get a rig again. It's a 9700k, 2080, 32 GB GSYNC. I'm in the UK too. There are literally none for sale which is why I'm asking here. Cheers!

 

Our laptop has eDP 1.4 it supports 4K 120Hz internal display and external through the miniDP 1.4 port.

I'll try reducing TDP, I don't have Optimus on Area-51m

 

Maybe create your own
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...m-owners-lounge.826831/page-369#post-10875402