*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

There is just way more freedom, in both terms of hardware/cooling etc. And it also helps that no one is actively trying to cripple you with firmware. (well for the most part, hehe)

 

Turing graphics is still locked with Falcon chips and you can’t do much for increased TDP with mods, but yeah make the soldered 6 cores 9750H working better in other type tasks won’t do much in Time Spy. And we still have Nvidia’s amazing clock block v3.0 who in short makes you all number 1 But not all ODMs add in forced thermal cap well below Nvidia’s specs.

Look at Boost clocks...

 

That is only true if you purchase the lowest specification PC components. Anything in upper end of midrange or higher far exceeds anything you can get in a console. Consoles function well because they offer a far more controlled environment, serve a very limited purpose, have minimal outside influence to affect things and rely on software (games) being optimized to run great with the relatively modest resources they have to work with. On a PC there is a wide gamut of specs, operating conditions and user-induced drama that affects the outcome.

 

When did consoles join the conversation? Shew go away

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Hello all,

Having some issues with the 51m. My wireless adapter keeps crashing. I only have 80mV undervolt, but could that be causing it?

Also, the left palm rest gets quite warm. When I plug in headphones, it gets really hot. I have seen that SK had an overheating sound card, and I have contacted Dell about that, but is there anything else under there that could be causing the heat?

 

I think I've broken something.... I tried to OC my GPU and it crashed Windows (knew I should have left it alone.... noob). I'm stuck in a BSOD loop - BAD_System_Config_Info and I can't seem to get around it.

I have attempted the CMD commands - bootrec /repairbcd, bootrec /repairmbr and bootrec /osscan. However, when it does a brief scan it pops up something like OS Installation Media = 0.

So I'm now in the process of attempting a system restore I have from yesterday but its taking forever, I'm at about 30 mins now (is this normal). I assume this is due to it having to pretty much restore all the Windows files that seem to be missing as per the above, or that it's not actually working.

Anyone got any other ideas? Can I do a Windows re-install sort of process that won't delete my personal files and tweaks? I imagine it recognises somethings, as my keyboard lights are still using my settings and the fan is going nuts as it was on 'max' before the crash, surely that's saved within the OS memory?

 

Still in work?

Repair won't delete your files. But tweaks will be gone.

Edit. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12415/windows-10-recovery-options

 

Yeah, its still 'restoring files' thats been about almost or just about 2 hours, am I best off forcing a restart and trying a repair?

If I can get to safe mode is there anything in there I can try?

 

Several options you could try. See my previous post "Recovery options in Windows 10".
Come into Win 10 Boot Options Menu https://rivernetcomputers.com/5-ways-windows-10-boot-options-menu/

 

I think I may have to completely start from scratch , I've just gone for the repair option as far as I know but its stuck at 44% on the 'Getting files ready for installation' part. Don't know why I bother with trying to OC etc. I always end up causing issues and no doubt have lost anything I've moved onto this thing.

 

Question for you gurus on here - does the AW Graphics Amplifier only drive an external monitor for the Area 51M? I might be missing a driver of some kind, but I can connect my AW GA to my older AW 15, and my trusty AW 13 R3 just fine, and it sees an on-board EVGA 1080 Ti with no problem and use it. OTOH, connected it this morning to my AW 51M to do a Firestrike Ultra Test, and realized it won't see it, nor say in Overwatch which confirms its using the on-board 2070 (Gsync disabled btw). I read one reference which implied the AW GA only drives an external monitor, surely that can't be the case? Any tips or thoughts here? I just cannot imagine the GA only driving an external monitor and not the on-board one ever... I am aware of the Gsync issue, but other than that....

 

Get a USB stick, download Ultimate Boot CD and use Parted Magic to launch a linux instance to recover stuff.
https://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html

 

Thank you for this, if I'm not too late I will try and see what I can capture.

 

I think some OS files might have gotten corrupted when you had ram issues earlier. One good memory crash can ruin the OS install.

Ideally you want to use an eternal monitor for best performance. Using the internal LCD will have a significant performance deficit due to TB bandwidth limit, as data will have to go from laptop > Amp > Laptop > Internal LCD

Der8auer just did a video on this recently.

 

I doubt it has anything to do with the GPU overclock, especially based on the bugcheck message. I've been doing this for years and never had Windows files corrupted from any kind of overclocking except for system RAM tweaking. The key there is to stop, reset BIOS defaults and let Windoze boot normally a time or two and then pick up where you left off. If it wants to do a disk check, let it do its thing. Take a bio break or have a snack while it goes through all of the gyrations.

More likely than not, it is a borked Windoze Update. I recently had to restore a Macrium Reflect image due to cancerous Windoze 1909 Updates. It is possible that the GPU overclock may have made Windoze unstable while an update was in process. Best to use WPD or WUB to block updates and do them on your own timeline (if ever).

If you haven't made creating Macrium Reflect Images a ritual, time to start now. It saves you a crap ton of time and hassle. Having to do another clean install is a time waster and if you have a full image of a fresh install with everything else installed and tweaked, you're looking at 15 minutes of minor inconvenience rather than 15 hours of your life that you'll never get back. I don't screw around with fixing anything. At the first sign of a major problem with Windoze, I simply restore a Macrium Image and move on.

 

True - I don't really plan on using the internal monitor with the GA for any real purpose, the 2070 pretty much makes it a moot point, but it is curious that it doesn't appear to be trying to use it at all. HWInfo see's it enough to register one is there and fan speed, but that's it. To your point if I was to get serious, Gsync would be a necessity and driving the external AW3418DW I have on my desk... but it sounds like it should be able to drive the internal monitor...

 

It doesn't seem to want to boot normally it just sticks in this BSOD loop. I might just start afresh and put it down as a learning experience, I don't have a mass amount of data on there it was more or less the basics from the clean install I done when I first received the laptop.

I definitely need to get myself a spare HDD to use for backup as you mentioned to save me in times like this.

 

Can you enter boot options "F8" and launch it?

And always have fast access to 'F8' Boot opions in hand... You never know.
cmd (Admin)
bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy legacy

 

I can get into my USB Boot drive yeah, just formatted my C: drives, too much hassle haha. Going through the Windows install now.

 

What Windows are you deploying on it, 10 Pro?

 

Measure twice. Cut once.

windows 10 enterprise ltsc 2019

Macrium Reflect 7 Free Edition

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Seagate-Expansion-Portable-PlayStation-STEA2000400/dp/B00TKFEE5S

 

After switching over to LTSC from Pro, I gotta say, it's the best 4$ I've spent in a long time!

 

Why Windows 10 LTSC is a good choice | Joshua Miller

Code:

http://ddl6.digiboy.ir/microsoft/en_windows_10_enterprise_ltsc_2019_x64_dvd_74865958.iso

If you need M$ Store for some weird reason, you can add only the piece(s) of bloat that floats your boat:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QIiAvQFY2TpaPPMFSyraqdwK4-0exp6-

Word of caution: If you're a Micro$lop Game Studios UWP filth junky, LTSC 2019 won't let you run the latest AAA titles from their crap-in-the-cloud cesspool because it is not the latest release of Windoze. To use their latest game crap you have to be drinking the Kool-Aid and keep the Windows release and all updates current.

 

Moment I had it running it reminded me of Win 7, and that was really neat, felt like home. No bs, no bloat, just a solid fundation to work on. And it's nice that M$ doesn't get to stick a rod in bicycle wheel while you're on it.

 

See... "A new LTSC version comes out every 2-3 years or so". The way it should be... 2-3 years development and testing, then throw it out to the costumers. Aka give people stable and properly tested OS. Now... 2 times a year with new flaws.

 

LTSC is not perfect, but it gives you 2 to 3 years to get desensitized to the filth while others are living with the daily digital cancer drama. This way, the perception is that it sucks less.

Exactly.

 

Thanks a lot you guys @jc_denton @Mr. Fox and @Papusan really appreciate the help and what you all do for the forum.

This LTSC as mentioned, will it prevent me gaming? Thats the primary use for the laptop if I'm honest, I don't do much else with it.

 

I never hit it at all I don't think, but I was running stock on the CPU and GPU so maybe that's why, I don't know. I never had any major FPS drops like others are experiencing. Balanced or performance profiles depending on what I was doing. but balanced 95% of the time.

 

If you dont mind my asking, did you run stress tests like Firestrike and TimeSpy with it as well?

 

Did you get it working again?

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Bro @Mr. Fox did a run down of LTSC here. Only stuff affected is Windows Store games, such as Gears.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-owners-lounge.826831/page-1652#post-10967073

 

I ended up just formatting the drives and re-installing Windows. Not done much else yet, need to go through all the tweaks now and get it back to how it was..... nightmare

Nice one cheers brother, I'll give this the once over. As far as I know I don't use any Windows games, will check if the apps still work as this AWCC app comes from the MS Store. Thanks again.

 

Store is not included in LTSC, but you can add it manually from what I remember.

 

Yes, I included a link for the Store app in the same post as the link to download the LTSC ISO. Also links in the spoiler below.

It absolutely sucks that AWCC is a UWP/Store app. Not only are UWP apps totally rubbish, it sucks not being able to save a backup copy of a specific version if you find it works better than a newer version of the UWP filth. The fact that the clowns at Alienware made AWCC a UWP app shows how totally disconnected and retarded they are. UWP apps are only liked by teenage girls, sissy-men and people that worship their trashy smartphones. No self-respecting "hardcore" gamer or PC enthusiast is going to be pleased with such a sucky distribution model. Nevermind the fact that AWCC is a pile of garbage in its own rights. It just blows that you are required to have it installed for some basic core functionality. Again, another example of how disconnected these clowns really are... retards.

Spoiler: Mr. Fox's Google Drive

SW_DVD5_WIN_ENT_LTSC_2019_64-bit_English_MLF_X21-96425.ISO
LTSC-Add-MicrosoftStore-master.zip

 

I don't particularly like these control panels, I've never had CCC installed and exclusively use bios and afterburner for tuning. As most of the time, these 'programs' are resource hogs that try look flashy with a web 3.0 design, but in reality are like pigs with lipstick.

 

I agree. That works great for Clevo with @Prema BIOS. However, Alienware laptops don't and can't have the BIOS unlocked and AWCC is almost a requirement for some types of functionality. It sucks and is very detrimental for a system to be so reliant on Windows software. That situation is even more grievous when the Windows software is UWP trash that must be downloaded from the Micro$lop Store. The detriment is compounded when the UWP app is the only option available and it is really buggy.

 

Every test 3Dmark offers, including Port Royal. Tried it on different drivers and different profiles and never saw the thermal throttle issue that is plaguing others. Played ARK for like 5 hours straight on max settings and never saw any dropped FPS, especially not like what others have described.

I rolled the BIOS back to 1.5.0 just to see the difference and in my case the difference was a couple hundred points in Firestrike / Timespy so I just went back to 1.7.3

 

I was actually laughing out loud reading this , now that I'm starting to get into overclocking it would have been good to have a lot of this stuff more readily available rather than relying on a Windows store app.

Thanks again for the links bro, I'll get them saved and might give them a go.

Yeah, as pointed out by @Mr. Fox below, our BIOS is pretty locked down and I personally use AWCC for fan control, I'd be happy not to use it outside of that.

I don't think I have many other apps from the store but now that I'm starting from scratch I'll be able to gauge it better, not sure if the Netflix and Spotify apps come from there or the web.

 

See if you can use Hwinfo fan control instead. But not 100% sure if Dell have locked you out for use with the Area. Lock you out and only give you own proprietary apps will never ever be a good thing.

Btw. New dying 2080 graphics...
Area 51m keeps crashing while playing games
For the last few days, my Alienware Area 51m has been crashing while playing games with a weird symbol that pops up around the screen...

 

I'll give that a check bro, no doubt locked down though.

Aye, there definitely seems to be a flaw with these 2080's in the A51m.

Hopefully, if mine foes go bang it's at the time the R2's out and they feel generous and upgrade me haha.

 

I think you'll be offered new cards as they burn out See... The solder stations run probably 24/7. Swap out parts on the old cards is still cheaper than make brand new one (same as they do with replaced MB). Depends on what components is burnt.

 

I think thats me good to go, everything re-downloaded and tweaks and settings applied. No doubt my imagination but it genuinely feels like its running better than ever, possibly a blessing in disguise.

In terms of preventing any data loss in future whats the best method for me, is it to create regular backups or to create an image every month (example).

What are the best methods for the 2 suggestions above? Thanks as always in advance.

 

Glad you're up and running again.

 

Raid 5

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Turns out my panel is defective. Also, received this notification today:

Dear Customer,

This is a status update email for your Dispatch Number: XXXXXXXXX for an onsite visit by a Dell Technician.

The parts required for servicing your unit have not been received by the technician as they are currently out of stock. The estimated availability of the service part will be 3/16/2020. You will receive a call from the technician once they receive the parts to schedule the service.

 

And how will the speed be when you combinate fast PCIe NVMe drives with the single slower SATA in raid 5 ?

 

I think he shouldn't do that. All three drives should be NVMe drives.. if the laptop has no three NVMe drives, he should configure two of them on RAID 1

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Exactly

 

Wow, so many new pages. I can't read it all. I have two questions:

1) I want to switch to the white case. I know that it`s more sensitive. But does it get permanent spots? I don't think if you clean it regularly.

2) My CPU (9900k) and GPU (2080) are strong undervolted (GPU @0,85v). My system need 250W in Maximum. One psu (the big 330w) would be enough, but the firmware checks whether two psu are connected. Is there a trick or a hardware-mod, to use the full GPU-Power with one 330W psu?

Thanks.

 

Hey !

Just go with Macrium full image backup on a regular basis. If any issue, boot with the WinPE Macrium made you create and restore the image.

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