*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

I guess it just depends. I am not likely to sit anywhere off power for very long - even airplanes have power now. Frankly for weight I was thinking of removing it but I suspect Dell gets all freaky if it isn't seen.

 

Perhaps the 51m R2 will be shown at CES, what new features/improvements are you hoping to see with the refresh?

 

R2 within a year? That's kinda fast

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LOL no throttling BIOS, or at least a sane raising of the thermal point. I don't believe an R2 willl be announced because of the lack of new GPU options (no Ampere yet) and because there is too much available stock to move, but I believe they will show off new screen options displayed. I will go insane if they add an 120 hz OLED Gsync option.

 

Is Spartan's underclock any different than that you undeclock your KS down to 4.8GHz?

A good tip... Never store anything on top of the lid if you have the Lunar White

Had just gotten my new Alienware M17 RTX2070 laptop a few weeks before I got a promotion at work (around mid-Oct). So, I stored it and placed my NEW Corsair mousepad on top. Went to put it on charge today and was greeted with this. Will NOT come off. Any suggestions? Magic Eraser? Anything else?

All laptops can get good results from 330w single PSU if the firmware don't cap it to 250W. 330W should easly feed 8 cores and graphics if you run undervolt and no overclock. The 300W is good for +412w from the wall.

LOOL

 

Wow that is really making me think twice about this whole business with the Lunar White.... a new mouse pad did that? WTF.... magic eraser should of course, that's recommended from something I read on Reddit (if that's to be believed). Please let us know how it goes with cleaning it up if you can.

Really wondering if this was a flaw with the Lunar White finish on the original batch?

 

Bro I had no choice but to underclock and undervolt or it will just throttle because of the crappy 131w power limitation that happens with the 9900KS :3 you think I really Wana run this 5ghz cpu @ 4.8? Nooo I want 5ghz but no csn do here sadly or will just drop below 4ghz once power hits past 131w

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Maybe AMD CPUs, because that is what enthusiasts are purchasing now. Also RTX 2080 Super(not really a Super just a rebadge)

You can still run at 5GHz at games, not all apps require maximum load out of the CPU.

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Drop the cache a few notches and increase the undervolt.

 

I really can't the cpu clock speed goes all over the place it won't keep 5ghz. Something is overshootig with voltage maybe... If I turn laptop on fresh and load up games without throttle stop it will be at 5 then go to 4.3 4.0 4.5 5.0 5.0 5.0 4.1 then I turn on TS and bam 4.8ghz steady

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If you want to lock the turbo frequency @5.0 GHz, you need to set power limit 1 = power limit 2 = 200 W, and time = 0... On PC the 9900KS takes more than 150 W to sustain 5.0 GHz on full load. If you can't get steady 5.0 GHz on full load you are either power throttling or thermal throttling

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Sigh... The 51m power limit can not be adjusted, nothing I can do about that sadly.. It just does as it wants. I put a 95w tdp 9th gen in here its 210w if I put the 127w 9900KS it's 131w period.

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Is the power also locked in ThrottleStop? If so, then sadly you won't be able to release the full power of the 9900KS. In such case you'll get better performance from a Silicon lottery 9900K given your system would allow you to source more power for the 9900K

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a video on 9900ks I made

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His only hope is that Dell can help out with firmware for their EOL models.

And will Dell make a custom custom heatsink for R1? I mean it took Dell +9 months to start offer upgradeable graphics for current models. Or will you need make a Frankenstein HS?


New 2020 Alienware 51m with vapor chamber cooling for 105W TDP 10-core CPU

 

I REALLY HOPE they make heatsink to work with current 51M

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Or you can spend your money on a brand new R2 MB and full package if Dell haven't made other/more changes than they already have done with the heatsink.

 

Hope they fix the finish and make graphics switchable.

 

looks like i'm going to return mine once it arrives in the mail.

 

Are you actualy going to return it lol?

The gpu in here is already switchable

Then I need to buy cpu >< I have 9900ks already *. *

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You'll need swap out the graphics as well since it looks as the screw pinout is changed.

 

Well so much for upgradeability.... So... 51m is just a laptop that you can buy with 9900k and 2080...but the only reason the upgrade feature is relevant is if anything under 2080 and 9900k is purchased.... Nice.. I was hoping for like idk 3080 to work in here or better heatsink? So idk what to do now. Either deal with what I have still or wait for R2 and buy and pass this one to my gf or sell this and prepare for R2. I mean dam dell really upscaled this thing to be a laptop that will be upgradeable for years it seemed, at least the gpu would be amazing to upgrade... Who knows tho maybe they will make a variant for the 51m r1 aswell as some upgrade package 2080 super 3080 idk

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Because a its not meant for that. I move mine form the top floor to the botton floor and leave one power supply on each floor. 90% of the time i am on one supply...and pulling 60 fps min on outer worlds.

I am having a hard time believing most bought this for traditional laptop use.

 

Definitely the R2 will be much heavier and much more expensive than the R1. Also sad not to see AMD CPUs.

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I mean switchable GPU in terms of optimus.

So basically your running the laptop 90% of the time with a gimped GPU running at 50% limits? Why even bother then buying the area 51m, you might as well buy a thin and light or even an alienware m17 r2 to run outer worlds at 60 fps. That's precisely why I'm saying this laptop is flawed, no matter what you do whether your running the 330 watt brick or 240 watt brick your gpu is severely limited. All these things can be fixed with a bios update or support from dell which they've shown they only interested in reducing the wattage of the GPU with each bios update, and imposing temperature limits. Essentially reducing the performance of the laptop once all the reviewers are done. I'm talking about the 2080 GPU, there was talk of increasing the wattage on the 2060 and 2070 to near desktop levels which never came to fruition either. I don't think if the lower tier gpu are able to run 100% on just one brick.

With the Aorus 17, I leave one 330 watt power brick at home plugged in. I leave one 330 watt power brick in my backpack for when I travel. There's barely a noticeable change going from 150 watt GPU to 200 watt GPU in games. I can get around 5-6 hrs with optimus doing light work on the laptop.

 

The 2080 in the 51m isn't really that gimped it runs really nice with both psu plugged in. I mean a 2080 is supposed to be as fast as a 1080ti and in firestrike 31k-32k is the usual score for a 1080ti on a good day, so I got a max of 29600 when I did firestrike last and it's dam near close to that 31k mark, not to bad if you ask me :0

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So here's a thought - the pinout for the Area 51M "R2" is different - is it possible though that there will be DGFF kits of the "super 2080" for the Area 51M R1? Those pin-outs are just the enclosure.... now, given that they may not "fix" the thermal BIOS restriction they may deem it utterly unlikely though.... this is really, really annoying the way Dell is handling this whole situation.

 

It should work, unless they restrict comparability through firmware. However, you'll be pairing a higher TDP card with a lesser heatsink.

 

Hmmm good point. I just started researching Ampere based cards, I wonder if the 2080 Super might not be an option but a 3080 series.... supposedly 7nm with lower TDP card for card.... that's probably too much to hope for : /

Sad part is I have to make a decision soon before my "Holiday Receipt" with Microcenter runs out... ugh. In general, I like the system, but one of the sell points is some kind of upgradeability that is worthwhile. Stuck with a gimped 2080 option, and a move from a 9700K to a 9900K.... not much unless its storage or memory : /

 

The performance uplift might also be trivial and not worth splurging on, if you already have the rtx2080

Cuda cores:
RTX2080S: 3072
RTX2080: 2944
GTX1080: 2560

It'll still be 8GB GDDR6 but at a slightly higher memory clock.

 

Well its an utter moot point for a 2080 super on an R1 if they don't decide to stop the BIOS restrictions. I would _hope_ Dell would do right by its customers and release a 3xxx series Ampere set of cards for it, especially if they are cooler it would be a decent compromise. I can excuse them for the question of the CPU socket, but failing to provide at least one generation of upgradeability for the GPU... that would be inexcusable.

 

Who Confirmed no AMD?

 

Hi guys, I just got confirmation that there is a new heat sink designed for the new version of Area 51m which is currently only available in China. Unfortunately, the screw holes on this new beefier heat sink do not align perfectly with the older model which is a shame, however I will be looking forward to drilling new holes in this one and trying to use it on my existing machine. Anyone else tried this so far?
Here's a picture from reddit:

 

Nice Pizza-box chassis!

 

I believe as long as you can get the mounting pressure distributed close enough. to that of the original, you should be fine contact wise on the components.

 

Do you think that Dell will officially support this model for the 51m? I would hope that they would adapt it so that we could use it, given they marketed the 51m to be extremely upgradable.

 

Looks like they beefed up the VRM cooling for the DGFF cards. Fans seem bigger also. A shane that it's still shared, but it looks like the pipes do not run fully through to the GPU parts, but time will tell. Very interested in the bottom side to see if there are any major changes over there. Looks like a better heatsink than the original and more in line with the "magical" 8 pipe heatsink.

 

If Dell offer AMD, they need double inventory. This is added cost.

Alienware M15 R2 Lunar White IMPOSSIBLE TO CLEAN!
I have the new Alienware M15 R2 in Lunar White. It is a beautiful laptop and an amazingly soft material....... BUT YOU CAN’T CLEAN IT!

Only fix outside ask for a replacement...
Solved the staining on the touchpad issue by getting a nice skin I designed. Got the skin from MightySkins and was happy with the fitment

 

Why do I want this? Can I have this?

 

Me too...where can I get 1000 of these? @Papusan do you make these in your Igloo?

 

Not when Dell does not pay for anything until it gets pulled to production floor. Supplier holds the cost till then.

 

I have pictures of new radiators designed for the new area 51m.

 

They’re all weird for me, not pics of the heat sinks. Are others seeing the same?

I think from the pics shared that the heat sink that the new one is compared to is the 2060 heat sink, but I’m unsure. Anyone see that it doesn’t have the small side heat sinks?

 

Here's the original gallery for the new vapor chamber heatsink
http://tieba.baidu.com/photo/p?kw=a...8f0f73614b083600555b319ebc41316&pn=1&see_lz=0

 

No, I'm saying its pleanty powerful on one PSU...and when my office is finished and it stays there it will be on both 99 % of the time...like...oh...a DESKTOP REPLACEMENT LAPTOP. Kinda how it was marketed. It was not meant, nor marketed, nor reviewed as anything but that.

Caveat emptor if u don't do basic homework.

Golly...you want light by a m17. Or a razor blade..or any of the LIGHT AND PORTABLE lp that are Not Advertised as a DESKTOP replacement.
And your premise is wrong...im not seeing a 50% drop on one PSU..
Ima hyperventilating here...

 

Looks like they added an extra pipes.

 

Hi

This is on special in new zealand:

https://www.dell.com/en-nz/shop/lap...acd=10589619862341422&VEN3=111405085131690796

I guess the heatsinc would need to be changed for a future upgrade?

Also ships with 180w psu, which seems small for the 9700?

With the base screen would you get optimus support for graphics switching? With this what do you think battery life would be like doing web browsing and video playback?

Thanks

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Is this a vapor chamber?

Edit just saw the answer above

 

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