bad Benchmark score HELP!

Hi so I just recently upgraded to a AGA and a gtx 1080 ti (well they sent me a 1080 the ti is supposed to be in the mail) and my benchmarks on the card are horrible (only 103% on user benchmark 100% is a gtx 1070) anyone have any ideas why my bench marks are so bad?


UserBenchmarks: Game 89%, Desk 61%, Work 51%
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700HQ - 65.3%
GPU: Nvidia GTX 1080 - 103.5%
SSD: Crucial MX300 SATA M.2 525GB - 74.8%
SSD: Samsung CM871 M.2 2280 128GB - 43.7%
HDD: HGST Travelstar 7K1000 2.5" 1TB - 58.1%
RAM: Unknown F4-2133C15-8GRS 16GB - 58.5%
MBD: Alienware 17 R3

 

Wait, is that a laptop or a desktop since there are no 1080 TI laptops and no 6700HQ desktops that I know of.

 

GTX 1080ti in the AGA

Use some real bench-marking programs and go from there. 3D Mark 11, Firestrike, Time Spy, Cinebench 11, RoTR. We can work woth those #s an maybe tell you what is holding you back.

 

Yes it is a laptop its an alienware r17 r3 with a alienware graphics amp attached with a 1080

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okay Thank you I will start downloading it now

 

In that case I'd probably lean towards CPU bottlenecking. After all, it's a 3.1GHz quad-core only.

 

well I would agree with you normally but 2nd gen quadcores are barely and I mean very marginally bottlenecking a 1080ti so a 6th gen quad core should be fine I mean if you use a dual core one of the new pentiums they dont bottle neck at all and that's a dual core with hyperthreading

 

You see, here's where you're dead wrong. A 1080/Ti is easily bottlenecked by CPUs such as the 3770K or 2600K. Even more so by the 6700HQ which is slower than both. This is, however, assuming that we are talking about 1080p. At 1440p or above, even the R3 1200 and i3 8100 shouldn't be an issue.

 

Ill take your word for it, from the research and benchmarks I have seen they claim it dosnt and the video appears it dosnt, I can provide sources if you would like

 

Yes, the 6700HQ will bottleneck the performance of the GTX 1080TI. But not by 65% (GTX 1070 levels) which the OP is getting

 

Also atm I'm not using a 1080ti they sent me a 1080 by mistake the ti is in the mail should be here by Friday then I have to send the asus 1080 turbo back to them the bench I posted are with that asus gtx 1080 turbo

 

You can check for youself - use Afterburner and see if your CPU is hitting 100% usage along any of the cores.

 

okay so I used afterburner, with fallout 4 1080p ultra everything max distance on everything I couldn't get a SS because the SS was not showing the afterburner OSD but while I was watching the highest any of my cpu got was 75% and it was only for roughly 3 sec, other then that no more then 50-55% in battle so its not a bottleneck

 

well I got a SS with ab osd in windowed mode

 

The GPU is also running at 60% only so there's something holding it back.

 

heres a few inside heaven 4.0

it got up to 80 but didn't go past that

 

@FaTT just check you have the latest bios and video card drivers. Then check your commend centre and AGA drivers.

You have seen my scores in my mini review thread? I have direct links to. Time spy and fire strike scores you can use as a benchmark.

When gaming I'm gaming at 3440x1440p so I'd need to know the games you play so I can benchmark FPS with you.

Download Fraps for FPS

For OSD I'm using Eva's presion xoc software.

 

Benchmarks are crap and drivers are optimised so that users get more scores but on gaming it will be more thorough and you can monitor everything using HWINFO or GPUz.
So, try a game like Witcher 3 or GTA V.

 

Are you using the laptop lcd with the AGA or an external monitor plugged into the GPU/AGA?

 

my laptops 4k display although I don't use 4k only 1080P its the laptop in my sig, the only difference is that they sent me a 1080 instead of the ti the ti will b here friday

 

thank you for your response my friend but I K I have all of the newest drivers, when I purchased this laptop(actually a trade you wouldn't believe what I traded for it) the previous owner was a porn addict, and this PC had no recovery partition(due to previous owner not knowing what he was doing) so I had to re DL win 10 from dell and put it on a flash and completely reformatted the system and at that time I also downloaded all of the newest drivers then when I got the 1080 the other day I downloaded nvidias newest driver 368.25

 

well I was thinking about trying AC syndicate that's the only game currently I have installed that shows Vram useage and is a newer title SS to follow to be honest I believe that the bench is wrong, my internet blows more then Monica Lewensky did when she visited the white house so firestrike is going to take me a few days to get when I am in game no matter the game I get no shuttering frame skip or anything of the sort no matter the game runs flawlessly, Just if it is running at 1070 or 1070 ti levels and will not perform any betterthan a 1070 because of my other hardware I might just return the 1080 ti and go with a 1070 ti and save me a chunk of change also I noticed my temps never get hot enough to make the fan go higher then 35-40% under full load I benched with fan on auto card temp 78+c in heaven if I take off auto and run fan at 100% it dosnt go over like 48c during benchmark

 

Then give that a try. Are you hotplugging the AGA or hotplug followed by a restart? You need an external screen plugged to AGA for full performance of 1080Ti otherwise you're getting only 80-85%.

 

I'm honestly not sure what you mean by hotplugging, and I don't plan on gaming at 4k at 4k everything is so small on this damn 17 in monitor I cant read anything so I was planning on sticking to 1080P the reason I went 1080ti is for longevity I wasn't planning on having to buy a new card for 5-10 years

 

Hotplug means you're plugging AGA directly and playing a game OR plug AGA use Fn+F1 to prompt AGA settings to restart using AGA or shutdown to to use default GPU 970M.

 

well I'm guessing its hot plug, I followed the directions on alienwares youtube channel for setup and it auto picks the 1080 if I start up with the aga plugged in it auto disables the 970m and only the 1080 in the aga shows up in device manager

 

And by the way thank you for all your advice and help it is most appreciated my friend

Oh and just in case you or anyone else reading this is wondering what I traded for this laptop, I traded a ps4(NOT PRO) psvr bundle farpoint bundle and about 6 games total worth about 450-500 cash used but as I said the previous owner had this thing FILLED with virri couldn't do anything with it couldn't even connect to a network all the network setting and everything in control panel was gone

 

Attached are the SS for ac syndicate the first in game shot is at 4k res the and one is 1080p also I noticed in the settings SS it says 48hz refresh in I changed that to 60 and set everything as high as i could and it only takes a little over 6gb vram at 4k my gpu stays pinned at 99% and roughly 25 fps at 1080P it changes from 95-97% but dosnt drop below that and stays between 59-80 fps I think there might be something wrong with this card, using a little over 6gb vram the gpu load shouldn't be that high from what I understand but I could be wrong if I am please someone correct me if I am wrong

 

Also here is a SS of the AGA software

 

You do loose a good bit of performance using internal display with AGA. Do you have an external monitor you can plugin and disable the internal display and run some benchmarks?

 

ATM no I do not have an external I'm currently out of state working and will be for atleast another month but even when I get home I do not have a 4k display I have a 62 in 1080p LG TV let me see if any of the people I am currently working with has a 1080P monitor or TV I may borrow for a few

 

hey don I believe you might be right about the bottle neck, attached are the SS from watchdogs 2, ultra everything, and at 1440p this is the only game I have seen this on so far, I'm only using like 1/2 the vram so I'm guessing that maybe the other titles are giving a false reading? or something that doesn't allow it to use the power of the card? I'm completely stumped, what should I do? return it and go for a 1070 ti instead?

 

Using an external monitor really does help. Also at 1080p your 1080Ti will get bottlednecked buy your CPU.

The higher the load on the GPU the less FPS it outputs, which in turn means the CPU can keep up easier.

I game at 3440x1440p on my ultrawide.

 

okay guys so I got a external 1080P tv, and the benchs are better but still below expectations of a 1080

heres the first from user benchmark

INFO: Current software signature: [3a59cc774253802f5096b53dc3842ede]
INFO: Checking for updates on UserBenchmark.com
INFO: Version check passed
INFO: Benchmark engine running
INFO: Checking OS support
INFO: Checking CPU power status
INFO: Starting CPU tests
INFO: Launching CPU benchmark suite
INFO: Running 1 core CPU benchmark ...
INFO: 1Core Int total throughput: 98.3
INFO: 1Core Float total throughput: 104.9
INFO: 1Core Mixed total throughput: 102.4
INFO: Running 2 core CPU benchmark ...
INFO: 2Core Int total throughput: 191.3
INFO: 2Core Float total throughput: 200.9
INFO: 2Core Mixed total throughput: 192.7
INFO: Running 4 core CPU benchmark ...
INFO: 4Core Int total throughput: 338.4
INFO: 4Core Float total throughput: 363.9
INFO: 4Core Mixed total throughput: 348.7
INFO: Running 8 core CPU benchmark ...
INFO: 8Core Int total throughput: 484.5
INFO: 8Core Float total throughput: 542.3
INFO: 8Core Mixed total throughput: 490.4
INFO: Running 64 core CPU benchmark ...
INFO: 64Core Int total throughput: 482.1
INFO: 64Core Float total throughput: 547.1
INFO: 64Core Mixed total throughput: 512.9
INFO: Exiting CPU benchmark suite
INFO: Completed CPU benchmarks
INFO: Starting RAM tests
INFO: Launching RAM benchmark suite
INFO: Checking RAM configuration
INFO: Running 1 core RAM benchmark ...
INFO: 1Core Read total throughput: 15.5
INFO: 1Core Write total throughput: 25.3
INFO: 1Core Mixed total throughput: 20.9
INFO: Running 2 core RAM benchmark ...
INFO: 2Core Read total throughput: 20.1
INFO: 2Core Write total throughput: 26.6
INFO: 2Core Mixed total throughput: 22
INFO: Running 16 core RAM benchmark ...
INFO: 16Core Read total throughput: 26.3
INFO: 16Core Write total throughput: 25.8
INFO: 16Core Mixed total throughput: 20.9
INFO: Running system latency tests ...
INFO: 1KB memory latency: 1.45 ns
INFO: 2KB memory latency: 1.39 ns
INFO: 4KB memory latency: 1.34 ns
INFO: 8KB memory latency: 1.39 ns
INFO: 16KB memory latency: 1.35 ns
INFO: 32KB memory latency: 1.4 ns
INFO: 64KB memory latency: 2.63 ns
INFO: 128KB memory latency: 3.93 ns
INFO: 256KB memory latency: 3.76 ns
INFO: 512KB memory latency: 9.51 ns
INFO: 1MB memory latency: 13.06 ns
INFO: 2MB memory latency: 14.72 ns
INFO: 4MB memory latency: 20.82 ns
INFO: 8MB memory latency: 47.67 ns
INFO: 16MB memory latency: 62.11 ns
INFO: 32MB memory latency: 68.07 ns
INFO: 64MB memory latency: 72.1 ns
INFO: 128MB memory latency: 72.94 ns
INFO: 256MB memory latency: 76.35 ns
INFO: Exiting RAM benchmark suite
INFO: Completed RAM benchmarks
INFO: Gathering drive info
INFO: Starting drive benchmark on D:\\
INFO: Running sequentialRead test ...
INFO: Running sequentialWrite test ...
INFO: Running sequentialMixed test ...
INFO: Running 4kRead test ...
INFO: Slow device detected, reducing IO load
INFO: Waiting for 1 pending IOs
INFO: Waiting for 0 pending IOs
INFO: Running 4kWrite test ...
INFO: Slow device detected, reducing IO load
INFO: Waiting for 1 pending IOs
INFO: Waiting for 0 pending IOs
INFO: Running 4kMixed test ...
INFO: Slow device detected, reducing IO load
INFO: Waiting for 2 pending IOs
INFO: Waiting for 1 pending IOs
INFO: Waiting for 0 pending IOs
INFO: Completed drive benchmark on D:\\
INFO: Starting drive benchmark on E:\\
INFO: Running sequentialRead test ...
INFO: Running sequentialWrite test ...
INFO: Running sequentialMixed test ...
INFO: Running 4kRead test ...
INFO: Running 4kWrite test ...
INFO: Fast 4K write detected
INFO: Running 4kMixed test ...
INFO: Running 4k64thrRead test ...
INFO: Running 4k64thrWrite test ...
INFO: Running 4k64thrMixed test ...
INFO: Completed drive benchmark on E:\\
INFO: Starting drive benchmark on C:\\
INFO: Running sequentialRead test ...
INFO: Running sequentialWrite test ...
INFO: Running sequentialMixed test ...
INFO: Running 4kRead test ...
INFO: Running 4kWrite test ...
INFO: Fast 4K write detected
INFO: Running 4kMixed test ...
INFO: Running 4k64thrRead test ...
INFO: Running 4k64thrWrite test ...
INFO: Running 4k64thrMixed test ...
INFO: Completed drive benchmark on C:\\
INFO: Checking GPU configuration
INFO: Found 2 graphics card(s) and 1 active display(s)
INFO: Starting GPU Benchmarks
INFO: Launching NGPU detection
INFO: NGPU Name: GeForce GTX 1080
INFO: NGPU Driver: 388.31
INFO: NGPU Bios: 86.04.17.00.11
INFO: NGPU Total RAM MB: 8192
INFO: NGPU Max C MHz: 1949
INFO: NGPU Max M MHz: 2502
INFO: Launching AGPU detection
INFO: Completed GPUStats successfully
INFO: Bench NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 @(NS-19E720A12) on display(1) = main
INFO: GPU score on Plane = 386.7 FPS
INFO: GPU score on Cube = 379.7 FPS
INFO: GPU score on Stones = 394.8 FPS
INFO: GPU score on Swarm = 240.8 FPS
INFO: GPU score on Galaxy = 385.8 FPS
INFO: GPU score on Sphere = 217.1 FPS
WARN: skipping Intel(R) HD Graphics 530 - unable to locate attached display
INFO: Completed GPU benchmarks
INFO: Completed all benchmarks in 145 s
INFO: Shutting down benchmark engine
INFO: Results sent sucessfully
INFO: Your report is available online at:
INFO: http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/5949547

So I ran Gpu tweak II and used the game booster

INFO: Current software signature: [3a59cc774253802f5096b53dc3842ede]
INFO: Checking for updates on UserBenchmark.com
INFO: Version check passed
INFO: Benchmark engine running
INFO: Checking OS support
INFO: Checking CPU power status
INFO: Starting CPU tests
INFO: Launching CPU benchmark suite
INFO: Running 1 core CPU benchmark ...
INFO: 1Core Int total throughput: 104.1
INFO: 1Core Float total throughput: 101.8
INFO: 1Core Mixed total throughput: 96.7
INFO: Running 2 core CPU benchmark ...
INFO: 2Core Int total throughput: 181.4
INFO: 2Core Float total throughput: 205
INFO: 2Core Mixed total throughput: 199.8
INFO: Running 4 core CPU benchmark ...
INFO: 4Core Int total throughput: 363.6
INFO: 4Core Float total throughput: 387.7
INFO: 4Core Mixed total throughput: 373.5
INFO: Running 8 core CPU benchmark ...
INFO: 8Core Int total throughput: 485.6
INFO: 8Core Float total throughput: 540.7
INFO: 8Core Mixed total throughput: 521.7
INFO: Running 64 core CPU benchmark ...
INFO: 64Core Int total throughput: 484.4
INFO: 64Core Float total throughput: 546.9
INFO: 64Core Mixed total throughput: 522
INFO: Exiting CPU benchmark suite
INFO: Completed CPU benchmarks
INFO: Starting RAM tests
INFO: Launching RAM benchmark suite
INFO: Checking RAM configuration
INFO: Running 1 core RAM benchmark ...
INFO: 1Core Read total throughput: 15
INFO: 1Core Write total throughput: 25.4
INFO: 1Core Mixed total throughput: 21.6
INFO: Running 2 core RAM benchmark ...
INFO: 2Core Read total throughput: 20.7
INFO: 2Core Write total throughput: 26.6
INFO: 2Core Mixed total throughput: 23.1
INFO: Running 16 core RAM benchmark ...
INFO: 16Core Read total throughput: 26.6
INFO: 16Core Write total throughput: 27.7
INFO: 16Core Mixed total throughput: 21.1
INFO: Running system latency tests ...
INFO: 1KB memory latency: 1.34 ns
INFO: 2KB memory latency: 1.36 ns
INFO: 4KB memory latency: 1.36 ns
INFO: 8KB memory latency: 1.34 ns
INFO: 16KB memory latency: 1.36 ns
INFO: 32KB memory latency: 1.37 ns
INFO: 64KB memory latency: 2.51 ns
INFO: 128KB memory latency: 3.1 ns
INFO: 256KB memory latency: 3.52 ns
INFO: 512KB memory latency: 9.09 ns
INFO: 1MB memory latency: 11.93 ns
INFO: 2MB memory latency: 13.57 ns
INFO: 4MB memory latency: 16.57 ns
INFO: 8MB memory latency: 40.25 ns
INFO: 16MB memory latency: 61.13 ns
INFO: 32MB memory latency: 67.65 ns
INFO: 64MB memory latency: 70.81 ns
INFO: 128MB memory latency: 72.45 ns
INFO: 256MB memory latency: 76.64 ns
INFO: Exiting RAM benchmark suite
INFO: Completed RAM benchmarks
INFO: Gathering drive info
INFO: Starting drive benchmark on D:\\
INFO: Running sequentialRead test ...
INFO: Running sequentialWrite test ...
INFO: Running sequentialMixed test ...
INFO: Running 4kRead test ...
INFO: Slow device detected, reducing IO load
INFO: Waiting for 1 pending IOs
INFO: Waiting for 0 pending IOs
INFO: Running 4kWrite test ...
INFO: Slow device detected, reducing IO load
INFO: Waiting for 1 pending IOs
INFO: Waiting for 0 pending IOs
INFO: Running 4kMixed test ...
INFO: Slow device detected, reducing IO load
INFO: Waiting for 2 pending IOs
INFO: Waiting for 1 pending IOs
INFO: Waiting for 0 pending IOs
INFO: Completed drive benchmark on D:\\
INFO: Starting drive benchmark on E:\\
INFO: Running sequentialRead test ...
INFO: Running sequentialWrite test ...
INFO: Running sequentialMixed test ...
INFO: Running 4kRead test ...
INFO: Running 4kWrite test ...
INFO: Fast 4K write detected
INFO: Running 4kMixed test ...
INFO: Running 4k64thrRead test ...
INFO: Running 4k64thrWrite test ...
INFO: Running 4k64thrMixed test ...
INFO: Completed drive benchmark on E:\\
INFO: Starting drive benchmark on C:\\
INFO: Running sequentialRead test ...
INFO: Running sequentialWrite test ...
INFO: Running sequentialMixed test ...
INFO: Running 4kRead test ...
INFO: Running 4kWrite test ...
INFO: Fast 4K write detected
INFO: Running 4kMixed test ...
INFO: Running 4k64thrRead test ...
INFO: Running 4k64thrWrite test ...
INFO: Running 4k64thrMixed test ...
INFO: Completed drive benchmark on C:\\
INFO: Checking GPU configuration
INFO: Found 2 graphics card(s) and 1 active display(s)
INFO: Starting GPU Benchmarks
INFO: Launching NGPU detection
INFO: NGPU Name: GeForce GTX 1080
INFO: NGPU Driver: 388.31
INFO: NGPU Bios: 86.04.17.00.11
INFO: NGPU Total RAM MB: 8192
INFO: NGPU Max C MHz: 1949
INFO: NGPU Max M MHz: 2502
INFO: Launching AGPU detection
INFO: Completed GPUStats successfully
INFO: Bench NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 @(NS-19E720A12) on display(1) = main
INFO: GPU score on Plane = 403.7 FPS
INFO: GPU score on Cube = 378.6 FPS
INFO: GPU score on Stones = 400.5 FPS
INFO: GPU score on Swarm = 252 FPS
INFO: GPU score on Galaxy = 404.2 FPS
INFO: GPU score on Sphere = 232.3 FPS
WARN: skipping Intel(R) HD Graphics 530 - unable to locate attached display
INFO: Completed GPU benchmarks
INFO: Completed all benchmarks in 142 s
INFO: Shutting down benchmark engine
INFO: Results sent sucessfully
INFO: Your report is available online at:
INFO: http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/5949588
INFO: Opening report in default browser
Completed

now it says its running correctly, but when I run Heaven Benchmark it gives me a lower score then I had on my laptop monitor, now watch dogs 2 at 1080p ultra, is a little over 6gb of vram with 50-75% ish sometime jump to 90+% gpu useage, that gives me an average of 90 running fps but constantly changes between 80-120 with drops every once and again to 59 fps and all 4 of my processors range from 75%-98% useage but never hit 99% but 98 frequently now correct me if I am wrong but I believe that to be the start of the bottleneck, so I'm guessing the 6700hq is only capable of a little over 6gb vram before it starts bottlenecking? any thoughts? I have read that there are system with a 6700HQ and gtx 1070 and 1080 so I'm guessing the aga is the bottle neck?

 

Well my 1080ti just showed up such a shame I have to send it back so I ordered a EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 FTW2 GAMING iCX, 08G-P4-6676-KR, 8GB GDDR5, RGB LED, 9 Thermal Sensors, Asynchronous Fan Control, Thermal Display LED System, Optimized Airflow Fin Design, Die Cast/Form Fitted Baseplate/Backplate hopefully it wont bottleneck

 

Thing with AGS is your always going to slightly less maximum framerate from whatever you have. Going to a 1070ti won't make any difference.

You need to solve what you get currently. Also no one uses user bench to test things.

Why don't you try PC mark, 3dmark, heaven use Aida64 as an OSD and use that to track your usage.

I am Happy to bench my system against yours so you can see what differences appear. That might through up the issue.
I'm off from work for a week from Monday.
I can test my system with yours as a 1080ti vs your 1080ti we should have very little Differences

 

well heres the thing, on another forum (people didn't reply for days so I looked else where ) I met a user who was experiencing the exact same thing, he told me that he got it from alienware and intel that anything over 1980 cuda cores the 6700HQ cant keep up and it creates a bottleneck, so I cant even go 1070ti (has over 2k cuda cores) I had to go 1070 8gb and because the 1080 I had was running at 1070 speeds ect I am expecting the same performance I get now just with a cheaper price tag I have heaven 4.0 and running it on a external gave me a lower score then on my laptop screen, the fact that my cpu cannot keep up theres no point in shooting for a 1080ti except resell value but I couldn't live with myself if I sold someone a system with a part that could only be used to about 75-80% of its capabilities so I did a ton of research this morning and decided that out of the cards that my cpu wont bottle neck I picked a EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 FTW2 GAMING iCX, 08G-P4-6676-KR, 8GB GDDR5, RGB LED, 9 Thermal Sensors, Asynchronous Fan Control, Thermal Display LED System, Optimized Airflow Fin Design, Die Cast/Form Fitted Baseplate/Backplate because first of all I got it for 429 with 1 day shipping (I paid 750 for the 1080ti) second I can overclock it to just about 1080 speeds, from the research I have done the 1070 and ti are actually underclocked because they were way too close to the benchmarks of a stock1080 when properly oc like 5%or less in fps so I originally bought the ti for longevity, now from all the research I have done I will not be able to run a 1080 but I will be able to reach just about 1080 speeds and have the same longevity of a stock 1080

 

That's fair.

Just remember that higher FPS is held back by the CPU if you had a much higher resolution monitor the load on the gpu is higher thus slowing it down. Meaning less FPS so the CPU can keep up.

 

well from what I understand its the exact opposite the higher the res/framerate (and idc really about fps as long as it stays above 60 you don't notice too much of a difference our eyes can only pick up 30 something fps anyways) the more the bottleneck because its putting more of a load on the gpu then the cpu can handel

 

What performance are you expecting? On average the Performance is roughly 10% less when using a graphics amp than what the gpu normally would bench at.

 

exactly that 10% less maybe 15, a 1080 running at 1070 speeds is way below that, I finally got 3d mark and heres the SS from the bench totally bottlenecked

 

just run firestrike, then run firestrike extreme.

Don't do a custom one as we can't compare the results

 

Total bottleneck through almost the whole test