[b]zune Vs Ipod[/b]

Well I have lost my Archos 404 and I will not buy another archos again you have to pay money on top of what you paid for some features. Anyway I am leaning on the Zune but I heard from someone that the zune cannot play all music and movie file formats is this true? This is not the case with the Ipod but the Ipod has a smaller screen and looks bad in my opinion. Any input would be awesome.

 

The new zune will support most of the file formats. Even the old zune will be able to play most of the codecs after a software upgrade http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/zune/fir...is-is-how-you-treat-your-customers-306422.php . But the new ipod touch is a sleek a hell.

 

Do not like the IPOD touch because it has low memory.

 

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/zune/fir...is-is-how-you-treat-your-customers-306422.php sorry for giving you the wrong link above, i edited it

 

For Video... Zune. for Music... SanDisk Sansa.

IPod?? overpriced overaclaimed and lacking in quality

 

Usually it's not a bad idea to convert movies for size anyway, so if you have a movie that doesn't play in a format the Zune or iPod supports.

The iPod isn't going to play every video file natively you throw at it......... usually you'll want to convert stuff to h.264 (I use Videora for this).

I would say to look at the features of the various iPods and the Zune (and you might look at other devices too).

If you don't want to worry about conversion, I'd think something like the Archos 605 would still be worth looking at though, as I believe those will play DivX, Xvid, etc. stuff natively.

 

with this upgrade Microsoft is giving to all the old zune owners, they will be able to get almost everything a new zune is offering. I also heard that you could get a refurbished "poop" colored zune for 79 bucks.

 

How is the iPod overpriced or lacking in quality relative to a Zune?

 

True, although if you don't already own one, I think I'd lean towards the new thinner hardware (and 80GB HD) of the newer Zune, personally. Unless you just really wanted to get it for the cheapest price possible.

 

iPods suck. I've had more problems with them than ANY other electronic i've ever owned.

1) first ipod didn't keep a charge for more than 30 minutes of use after only having it 2 months

2) the 2nd one froze up constantly

3) the 3rd one refused to play music out of the left side of the earphones --- no matter what earphones i plugged in.

4) i've had my zune since it came out: ZERO problems

 

I own a ipod video and i love it, especially with itunes, but zadillo, you pay a premium for apple products. I'm not saying it is lacking in quality but it is overpriced compared to the zune with it's features.

 

I disliked my Archos it did not have the battery life that was advertised and it had the worst sound quality. And was too big, having a normal instead of a wide screen.

 

The archos had the stupidest marketing with its "play for sure technology"

 

If you can deal with 30gb, get the old zune and upgrade the firmware so it has all the features of the newer zunes.

 

Fair enough, but this is anecdotal evidence, of course.

It's kind of a sweeping generalization to say that because you haven't had problems with your Zune and did have problems with your various iPods that that necessarily applies to the overall products.

Just saying.

-Zadillo

 

I really want 80GB, but if there is an advantage other then the price please specify.

 

The only argument I could make for the Zune would be the wifi syncing (and the squirting, if you know other zune users) and the larger screen (although with the same resolution), but outside of that, they seem to be pretty evenly spec'd for the same basic price.

-Zadillo

 

How about the iPod Touch?

 

Gotcha. I don't know, the Archos 605 though is two generations ahead of what yours is; I would wonder if it might not address a lot of those concerns.

Anyway, seems like the Zune might be worth checking out.

Again, it's probably worth looking at the different players and seeing which you prefer (which UI you like more, which interface you like, maybe even which accessories, etc. you like more). And of course, if you prefer the Zune store to the iTunes Store.

 

You can't beat $79 refurb zune, even though it's poop colored. Makes me want to sell my ipod video and maybe collect some money in the process.

 

ill never switch for my ITouch, save to a bigger ITouch
heres why

wide screen
Flash Memory
Safari (cause, well i like it)
Multi touch interface is amazing
and wifi hook up
and its the sexiest damn thing

 

Again I am only going to get 80Gb unless it has other specialties.

 

Yes i forgot lucid, hands down itouch. Reason: web browsing. Hard to imagine yourself with 16Gb, Solution: smart playlist.

 

Well I am a pack rat and I am going to put ALOT of movies and every summer I go to turkey and do not have access to computer all the time so rule out 30GB.
>30GB

 

The Touch is cool, and represents the future of the iPod platform, but it is still a hard sell right now, since the limits of Flash memory capacities make it hard to realize the full potential of being able to keep more music and video with you.

I think in the future, when it will be more realistic to get a 128GB or 256GB Flash iPod Touch, it will be a different story.

I'm definitely enjoying the iPhone's UI, and I just carry around my favorite songs and convert specific videos to transfer at a time for video, but in t he future, being able to carry around my entire music library would be very nice again.

The screen is definitely amazing for video - I've switched from using my PSP for that purpose.

Until then though, a hard-drive based system is still an easier sell for someone who wants a video-focused device. And without a hard-drive based iPod Touch, it just isn't going to be a consideration for a lot of people.

The Zune or iPod Classic make more sense...... although I can definitely see choosing the iPod Touch for the screen quality if you don't mind only carrying a few videos at a time.

-Zadillo

 

I think your best bet is the 80GB Zune then (or the iPod Classic; I'm still not sure, based on what you've described I'm not sure that one or the other will be better. I think if you can get a chance to look at the specific UI's, etc. of both that might help, or other features..... i.e. if you know you'll like subscription music, that is something to think about.

And the Zune might be a better bet for video anyway; the screen is physically larger (although with the same resolution as the iPod Classic, something I hope Microsoft might increase in a future Zune).

-Zadillo

 

Worth noting that there are way more iPods out there than the Zune, so even if the percentage of defects were the same, you would hear less about the Zunes.

Over 120 million iPods have been sold, so even if only 1% of them had problems, that's 1.2 million iPods with problems. That's close to the entire sales figure of the Zune.

And note to you, hearing your problems with your iPods, you do know you could have probably exchanged for a new one with Apple, right? Apple's customer service is excellent, they go to great lengths to satisfy their customers.

 

Is the resolution that Bad?

 

get 2 ipod touches, just joking. I have an ipod video and i can tell you one thing, it is hard to watch even a tv show without getting some eyesore, so i would exclude the ipod classic sadly. I would then say, probably a 80 gb zune is your best choice. I was kicking myself in the head for not waiting 6 more months until the ipod touch, but its your call.

 

The screen resolution for the Zune is 320x240 on a 3.2 inch screen, the same resolution as the screen on the iPod Classic, 2.5 inch and the 2-inch screen of the new iPod Nano.

In contrast, the iPod Touch has 480x320 resolution, on a 3.5 inch screen.

 

No, no, not that bad. Video looks fine on the Zune (at least the first gen Zunes, but I assume it shouldn't be that much different with the new Zunes).

It's just that the higher res helps offer a crisper image; for an extreme example of this you can see something like the new iPod Nanos, which have very tiny screens, but the video looks very crisp because they are still fairly high resolution for the size.

I'm mainly just saying that MS has taken the first step with the Zune to u se a larger physical screen, but the next step would be to increase the res as well for an even crisper image.

-Zadillo

 

About the resolution when I watch movies on it will it be bad I do not think it will be as bad as my archos.

 

HMMMM the resolution might change my idea but the price for the touch IMO does not justify it. I think it is the ZUNE. How are the accessories and what are some cool things it can do apparently it has WIFI B/g that is great.

 

I'm sure it will be fine, I don't think I've heard anyone complain about watching videos on the Zune.

I didn't mean to freak you out about it; it's more just a personal thing I'd like to see MS do with a future Zune; offer an increased resolution to go along with the larger physical screen.

-Zadillo

 

Yeah, the Touch has an amazing screen, but the cost of Flash memory will make it prohibitive for a while to come.

One of the cool things they are adding with the new version of the Zune (and which will be added to the older Zunes with the firmware update) is wi-fi synching, so you can sync with your computer over wi-fi rather than having to physically dock (although you'll still need to plug-in from time to time to recharge, of course).

-Zadillo

 

...which is 125 pixels per inch, fairly close to the density of WSXGA+ on a 15.4" laptop screen. (Of course, your viewing distance might differ.)

IMO the Touch rocks if you don't need much storage space.

 

resolution does not matter very much on such a small screen. I would wait till when apple refreshes there iphones with 3g to see if they might also refresh their ipod touches with more memory. If you can't wait, get a zune for goodness sake.

 

THXS swarmer that has cleared up a lot well now it is the waiting for it to come out. Same as WSXGA+ sounds good.

 

I don't need storage space so the touch is my pick.

 

Then do not brag about it! LOL
I need GB's the more the better.