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    2.1 speaker system (bass most important part)

    Discussion in 'Accessories' started by cumbaya19, Apr 13, 2009.

  1. cumbaya19

    cumbaya19 Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm looking for a pair of inexpensive 2.1 speakers for my room with a focus on bass. 75$ or less. Thanks!

    I cant go 5.1 because there is a door in the way and i don't wire by the door so 2.1 only
     
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    Klipsch Promedia 2.1

    You can find them all the time on eBay.
     
  3. rageman

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    . If you could go $30 more, you could get the Logitech Z-2300 200 watt RMS 2.1 THX Certified speakers off HP's website!

    I just ordered them. You'd have to go check out youtube vids to believe how good they sound.

    The sub is 120 watts RMS! lol

    Go with the Klipsch, or save a little more money and get the Logitechs.
     
  4. cumbaya19

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    How are the Altec lansing VS4121
     
  5. rageman

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    No. I would pick Logitech over Altec Lansing any day of the week (especially in your price range).

    I'd go w/ the Logitech Z4's. I've owned these and they deliever great bass and mids and highs. The bass is enough to shake the walls.

    The Altec Lansing's don't compare IMO.

    Here, Logitech Z4's they are for $69. Read the reviews on Newegg too, you'll probably get these ones!
     
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    Oh, and I should add that Logitech's come w/ a 2 year warranty. ;)


     
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    if I were to somehow be able to muster a 5.1 is the Logitech X-540 better?
     
  8. rageman

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    Well, I think you can get them for the same price, and they are better in that they add 3 more speakers! The sub is slightly higher wattage as well.

    http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/s...aoid=20715&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=FT893AA#ABA

    Try that link. You should register w/ HP's APP (Academic Purchase Program), it's easy and free. You just have to give them a College e-mail address. I used my Comunity College E-mail and never had to confirm it!! lol. So I am guessing if you are not in school, you can make one up or use one of your local college's E-mail adress.

    Then you get $20 off the 5.1 and I also have a $10 off any purchase coupon for you to use.

    You enter coupon SV2130 at the Checkout part.

    Do all that and you'll get the 5.1's for $61 (plus tax) and that includes free shipping!!!!!

    Let me know what you decide, or if you need help!
     
  9. cumbaya19

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    the college thing isn't working and i have a legit college email...
     
  10. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    This.

    I have a Z-2300 set, and I paid over $130 at the time including shipping. And I still say it's worth the price. These babies will not let you down, unless it's because the bass rattles your expensive crystal and china off the shelves. :p
     
  11. nu_D

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    Man. Go for the Z-2300. They will stomp the crap out of anything- trust me.

    Forget about those 5.1s man. Just go for the Z-2300- they are well well worth it. They will f'n destroy your neighborhood, the bass is unbelievable.

    The Z-4s are also pretty good. They don't hold a candle to the Z-2300, but they will stomp those altecs bad. I would stay away from altecs and 5.1s.... 5.1s really aren't worth it IMO....
     
  12. cumbaya19

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    nvm got app working...is the z-2300 bass that much better? Are there any systems compareably priced with the X-540 that have a better BASS?

    it can be 2.1 as well

    Thanks for all your helpo
     
  13. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    You have no idea. 120W RMS (not even peak!) power for the subwoofer alone. It's some of the best bass I've ever heard.
     
  14. cumbaya19

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    is there anything with that kind of bass cheaper? I really can't go higher than 80...i have spent a fortune on clothes this past week
     
  15. rageman

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    Use THIS link. It will work. I think I gave you a wrong link.

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  16. cumbaya19

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    i got it to work...i'm on the pay screen but I want a strong bass and i don't know if this will do it...

    Again thanks for all your help so far guys
     
  17. rageman

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    Man, I just ordered the Z-2300's of HP's site, using the APP and Coupon code I gave you, and after Tax it came to $106.39, and that's w/ free shipping!

    Too bad you couldn't save 20 or so more!

    I say go w/ the 5.1's because of the price you'd be getting them for. But w/ your door situation, I'd also cosider the Z4, which I have owned and are VERY nice. Especially for the Bass.

    The 5.1's might kill the bass a little since you'll have 5 tweeter type speakers going along w/ the sub.

    Though, nothing is going to come even close to the Z-2300. You are talking a 100 watt RMS jump between the two for the Subwoofer alone!



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  18. nu_D

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    Dude. $20-30 extra for the z-2300s is worth it for these suckers man...... trust us.

    DO IT!

    DO IT.

    GO WINGS BABY!!!!!!!!!
     
  19. rageman

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    :p YES!! I can't wait, just ordered them for $106 off HP's site, and they should be here Wednesday!

    Yeah, I don't see anything remotely close to that setup for the price. Gotta love the THX certification too!!

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  20. rageman

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    YES! Go Wings! Giving some REP for that!

    I've heard people compare the Z-2300's to a couple of JL Audio W3 10" subs in their trunk! :eek: LOL, that is just sick!!

    Save your $money$ up a little cumbaya19!!! ;)
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  21. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    Hah, you're telling me...I just finished watching parts 1 and 2 of Band of Brothers...it really does wonders for the immersion factor!

    The first thing I did with these speakers when I got them was watch Star Wars Episode III. Once it played that super bass-heavy note at the "THX" screen, I knew it was worth the money. :D
     
  22. cumbaya19

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    ugh! I think I may just go 5.1 for the time being...and then wait for mommy and daddy to send me a check end of quarter, sell the 5.1 and buy the Z2300.

    I've never had a sub before...only Bose back home, will I notice a differnce even with the 540? Will it thump? Its not even going to be that loud?

    give me some reassurance...please haha
     
  23. rageman

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    I knew that THX note would come in handy at some point!! lol.

    I've since changed my recommendation cumbaya19, either go w/ the Z4's or the Z-2300's!

    Here is the link to the Logitech Z-2300 2.1 THX Speakers on HP's site. It's the cheapest you can get them for online w/ free shipping. $100 plus your local sales tax.
     
  24. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    I don't know about the X-540's, as the subwoofer only has 25W RMS power (and honestly, from the pics, looks pretty skimpy). Either way, a real subwoofer should beat the crap out of any Bose system with their built-in speakers.

    Of course, neither a Bose nor the X-540's will be heard over the Z-2300. :p

    Now that I think about it, I just remembered the box came with a little adapter cable for red+white RCA audio cables. I think I may have to try that out with Call of Duty 4 on my Xbox 360 tomorrow. :D
     
  25. rageman

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    I think the Z4's will better serve your purpose cumbaya19, which I forgot is (bass most important)!! :p

    That's my official vote between the 5.1 and Z4's.
     
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    Yeah, that sub on the 5.1 almost looks like an Altec Lansing setup. :mad:

    The Z4's I have owned before, and they rock! They will shake things. :D

    Of course like you said, nothing compared to the Z-2300's which are not an option at this time for him.


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  28. Johnny T

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    Indeed, I own a pair of the altecs. I would never pay full price for those, I paid $27 for a 2nd hand pair. :D
     
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    I have a question.

    How come the z4 5.1 system costs about $60, and the z2300 2.1 costs over $100? there must be something is different in their material or design.
     
  31. Mastershroom

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    The Z-4 is not 5.1, it's 2.1 just like the Z-2300.

    The difference is the power. The Z-4 subwoofer is rated at 23W RMS power, while the Z-2300 sub is 120W RMS. That's a pretty huge gap, and definitely more than enough to justify the Z-2300's price premium.
     
  32. rageman

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    QFT.

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  33. cumbaya19

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    so Z4 has a better Bass?
     
  34. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    The Z-4 is slightly better than the X-540 as far as bass goes, but still nowhere near the Z-2300.
     
  35. Lyanowu

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    What about X540? It is $ 60 at amazon right now, X540 is 5.1 ,right? It still cost way less than z2300. Is power still the main reason why there is such a big price gap?
     
  36. rageman

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    I haven't heard the 5.1's in question, but have owned the Z4's and they are pretty dam good for the price.

    My concern is like Mastershrooms said, the build of the sub on the 5.1 doesn't look to hot. My experience has always been go w/ the Logitech's and go w/ the Subs that are in a square box, rather than the rectangle type like the 5.1

    Also, I worry that having the 2 rear speakers and the center channel as well will drown out more of the bass that you are looking for!

    So, it's hands down Z-2300's for me, I mean Z4's. :p
     
  37. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    The X-540 subwoofer is 25W, which is not too different from the Z-4. If anything, the X-540 subwoofer is even weaker due to the way it's designed. Note what rageman says about the square subwoofer design versus the rectangular design with the little legs.

    So, yes. Power is the main difference. Heck, given how enormous the difference in power is, it's a miracle the Z-2300's aren't more expensive than they already are.
     
  38. cumbaya19

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    well I just want a movie theater type experience...will either of these give them to me ( Z-2300 sadly not included)
     
  39. rageman

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    :confused:

    Depends on your sound card too. Do you have a 5.1 card? That could really make a difference in the surround sound factor.


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  40. Lyanowu

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    So in this case 5.1 doesn't make too much difference except there may be more details are noticed when watch movie.
    I am jsut wonder, what if I build a system with a sony bookshelf speaker with a receiver, would this gives better quality ?
    Let say I wan to pair this

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...t_shr?_encoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance


    With this

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...t_shr?_encoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance

    This sony bookshelf has 120Watt as well.
     
  41. rageman

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    Well, there is a good chance you blow those speakers w/ that setup.

    They are 120 watts peak! A good rule of thumb is go by the RMS, which is generally half of the peak power. So now you are looking @ 60 watts per channel. If that amp you posted really puts out 100 watts per channel (which it probably doesn't) you are really taking a risk.

    What are you trying to do anyway? It'd be way better IMO to go w/ a premade system such as the Z-2300. Go back and read my post you can get it for $100 plus your local tax @ HP.com right now.

    Looks like your system would be around $150 w/ no Sub! :(


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  42. cumbaya19

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    i have the IDT HD sound one that came with my notebook in my sig
     
  43. rageman

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    Okay, judging from everything you've told me, the space in your room, the bass being the most important, and the best movie speakers.....I'd go w/ the Z4's and here is why...

    You will get better bass. That was your first main concern.

    Less clutter and mess. You said you didn't have much room for the 5.1 setups.

    Z4's sound great. I have owned them, watched tons of movies on them, and listened to tons of music on them. They will shock you if you have never owned a nice setup like them before.

    You are still going to get a great movie experience w/ the Z4's, especially because the bass from the sub will be shaking the room like it should in movies.

    I am not sold on the sub w/ the 5.1's.

    5.1's = better highs, better surround.

    Z4's = better bass, still great mids and highs, and won't disappoint.

    Go w/ the Z4's then have your parents upgrade you to the Z-2300's later! :D
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  44. cumbaya19

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    well I realized I can mount 3 speakers on the walls and have two on my desk with my laptop in the middle and the sub on the ground. does that change your opinion?

    Lets say i'm watching the Dark knight, which will sound better?

    Sorry for all these questions, just wanna buy tonight. both come out to same price (540 $3 cheaper lol)

    How come the 540 has a higher Watts for Bass? Wouldn't that make it louder? I'm not going to be cranking it. I just want something when turned up half decent will fill by 12x15 room
     
  45. rageman

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    It's no problem really! :D

    I assume that your sound card has 2 headphone outs, and one mic in, and supporst SPDIF 5.1 (My HP DV6000 series had this too). I am not sure how good it works, and you'd have to do reasearch, but this would give you great surround sound.

    I am still sticking w/ the Z4's on this one, unless you are totally getting this for movies mainly. If music is important to you, then the Z4's. If movies and the surround sound, then the 5.1's. Just remember, you're going to lose the low end that the Z4's offer.

    Watching that movie, would you want more bass? You will hear a lot of bass going on in the movie that you didn't even know existing before w/ the Z4's.

    Once, again I am not sold on the design of the 5.1's sub and since I have never heard it personally and have the Z4's, I would recommend the Z4's.

    Remember, watching a movie with some nice 2.1 speakers is not a bad thing! You'll be very happy with them, I am sure of it. ;)

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  46. rageman

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    Wanted you to read his comments on the 5.1's too.

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  47. cumbaya19

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    rageman i bit on the Z-4s thanks for all your help! Repped!
     
  48. rageman

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    Awesome man!!

    I subscribed to this thread, so I expect to hear some feedback from ya once you get them!!

    Let me know how you like them! :D

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    if u can wait a bit, u can find refurb'd z-4 systems on ebay for about $40 shipped. i always buy stuff brand new, but i got curious one day and wanted to order a new 2.1 system. i gave these z-4's a try and let me tell u...u will not be disappointed.

    high's and mid's are pretty nice. u can always mess with yur EQ to get the best sound out of the satellites. the bass on the other hand...is just a beast. i live in a townhouse and i can't even turn the bass up more than half way without neighbors complaining.

    when i listen to music, i have to turn the bass levels down to about 25%-35%. volume levels are usually at about 15%-25% only. i have been around car audio for a pretty long time, and have owned plenty of 2.1 systems. if u want cheap, clean, and undistorted bass at high volumes, then u cannot beat logitech's enclosures.
     
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    Can you use those z-2300's on a laptop? what connection port would it go through
     
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