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    Another Which Mouse To Get Thread

    Discussion in 'Accessories' started by Thund3rball, Jun 17, 2010.

  1. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

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    So, I have the Logitech Anywhere MX and LOVE it... except for the click wheel. Because it is a toggle between hyper scroll and click scroll it does not function as a normal middle mouse button rendering it useless for some RTS games, and this will not do!

    Things my new mouse should have:

    • Mobile mouse size (not full size)
    • Wireless
    • Click wheel (not hyper scroll)
    • Thumb button(s)

    I have looked at the Orochi but the Blutooth micro-sleep state makes it useless to me. Anything else out there I might like?
     
  2. ryukenden

    ryukenden Notebook Evangelist

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    Anywhere MX. I myself getting the performance MX. I haven't found anything better. The problems with orochi does makes it completely useless. There's also the new Cyborg R.A.T 7 and 9 thats worth mentioning. But I stick with the MX.
     
  3. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

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    Precision MX is no good bud because it has the exact same toggle for the wheel as the Anywhere MX. Try playing RA3 or any other RTS where you navigate the field by holding down the middle mouse button and moving the mouse... it doesn't work, end of story. :(

    Those RAT mice are maybe a little too flashy gamer for my tastes and I don't think it comes in a notebook (mobile) size.
     
  4. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    The Orochi's Bluetooth sleep isn't really an issue if you don't leave the mouse completely still for 10 seconds at a time, which presumably you're not going to be doing in the middle of a game. And if it gets to you that much, you can plug in the handy 3-foot cable. ;)

    You may want to look into the Logitech G7. It's not a laptop mouse, but it's smaller than a lot of full-blown desktop mice. I'd call it mid-sized.
     
  5. Polytonic

    Polytonic Notebook Consultant

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    What's all this I'm hearing about the bluetooth lag/sleep thing? My Logitech V470 used to lock up all the time until I realized I had to turn off the power saving bluetooth option in Windows. Wasn't anything wrong with the mouse.
     
  6. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

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    If someone(s) can confirm this is possible with the Orochi than I'd be happy with that. But everything I read says you can't turn it off with that mouse.
     
  7. Polytonic

    Polytonic Notebook Consultant

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    Again, to fix my V470, I had to disable the Power Saving feature of my bluetooth enumerator in WINDOWS. It's the stock Windows Bluetooth driver that caused my issue. If my mouse goes to sleep, it wakes up now in less than one second. For all intents and purposes, I have zero lag time. It may drain the battery a bit more, but I recently invested into rechargeable batteries, so...
     
  8. ryukenden

    ryukenden Notebook Evangelist

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    I pretty much can confirm that you can't disable it or change it. It mentions on the official razer website (see faq). As mentioned before, the only way to stop it is the get it plugged in.

    Sadly enough, there is no decent mouse out there. The MX is just my preference, and not for competitive gamers. We are pretty much stuck unless you want to use wired mouse all the time.
     
  9. fzhfzh

    fzhfzh Notebook Deity

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    I don't know what's with the middle button, you can just use the logitech setpoint software and change the middle wheel button function from changing precision to a middle mouse button, unless you are refering to the small button under the wheel?
     
  10. crayonyes

    crayonyes Custom Title! WooHoooo !!

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    In my experience Orochi sleep timeout is less than 10 seconds.
    I think it's about 5 seconds or less, which is annoying for everyday use since we often type on keyboard for more than 5 seconds,,
    and when we get back to the mouse.. zzz freeze.

    And in my experience it's the mouse not the windows bluetooth.
    because MS Bluetooth 5000 has good sleep timeout > 5 minutes.
    only Orochi "smart enough" to make it 5 seconds

    so if you're planning to use Orochi wirelessly, I say No No.
    but if you're planning to use it with cord, I say "get a DeathAdder or Steelseries! :rolleyes: LOL
     
  11. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

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    I tried that, there were no options like that in setpoint. I downloaded the latest one from Logitech as I thought my disc was an old version, but nope, no option like that.

    Can you show me where you are changing yours? Maybe I just missed it.

    Lol my thoughts exactly.
     
  12. crayonyes

    crayonyes Custom Title! WooHoooo !!

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    oh right, it's different between PerformanceMX and Anywhere,
    in AnywhereMX the middle button is dedicated to switch normal scroll > hyperfast scroll.

    The options are change the left-right scroll / document flip button / thumb button to middle click ..
     
  13. fzhfzh

    fzhfzh Notebook Deity

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    Oh... because performance MX has a small button underneath the wheel especially to change between hyper and precision scrolling, therefore the wheel click can be configured to middle button.
     
  14. crayonyes

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    yeah, but still not a problem since it still has a lot of buttons to pick :)
     
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    davidfor Notebook Consultant

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    How about the Marathon M705? It is between the Anywhere and PerformanceMX in size and the wheel is a button. It does have hyperscroll, but there is a separate button to swap the modes.
     
  16. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

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    This sounds promising! I am going to look into it, thank you. :)
     
  17. jamus28

    jamus28 Notebook Consultant

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    I'm also looking for a new mobile mouse. I just got the anywhere mx and I'm using it now: I hate it.
    The left click button is sticky/heavy making fast clicks impossible. Also the weight of this beast is just too much for a supposedly portable laptop mouse.
    The good news is that it does work on any surface.

    I was about to purchase the ms mobile mouse 4000, but then i read about all the dongle shortcircuit problems. Are there any decent, light, simple mice out there?
     
  18. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

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    Hm, I actually love my Anywhere MX sans the middle mouse button issue. However I have found a work around.

    Using setpoint I configured the Application Button (located below the scroll wheel) to work like a middle mouse button. Not perfect but effective enough for me for now.

    [​IMG]
     
  19. jamus28

    jamus28 Notebook Consultant

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    Is it possible I have a defective model? I definitely notice a significant difference in the click ability between the left and right buttons. The right button has a much faster click, almost like the left button was pushed in. If I were left handed, the mouse would feel fine.
    Can anyone with the anywhere mx tell me if they notice a difference in the looseness of the right and left clicks?
     
  20. fzhfzh

    fzhfzh Notebook Deity

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    I think almost all mouse have designed the left click to be harder to click than the right click, the razer diamondback I had has the same design as well, after it spoilt, I opened up the mouse and discovered that the "click knob" of the left click is built more infront compared to the right click.
     
  21. crayonyes

    crayonyes Custom Title! WooHoooo !!

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    It does felt harder but not that much. I can do fast left clicks fine.
    And about the weight, you can try to put only 1 battery.
    That is the perfect weight for me :D