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    Any Mouse Over 800 DPI Feels Too Sensitive?

    Discussion in 'Accessories' started by Steven, Nov 11, 2012.

  1. Steven

    Steven God Amongst Mere Mortals

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    It it just me or does any mouse over 800 DPI just feel too sensitive? It feels like just clicking on an icon is difficult when the mouse moves so quickly and rapidly. Perhaps I'm just used to ancient corded mouses, but I bought a Bluetooth mouse for myself and my mouse has two DPI options: 800 DPI and 1,600DPI and I find it difficult clicking on items with the 1,600DPI option.
     
  2. Qing Dao

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    For the desktop, I feel best with 1000dpi, but for games 800dpi.

    But there is more to making it precise than that. To me, mouse acceleration causes far, far more problems. There is positive and negative acceleration, and it can be in the software or built into the mouse hardware or firmware. What mouse do you have?
     
  3. Steven

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    Chinese-made $8 Bluetooth mouse which I bought from eBay (Quite sturdy and surprisingly comfortable)

    I'll just mess with the windows hardware mouse sensitivity settings to optimize the speed I went my mouse cursor to move at.
     
  4. Qing Dao

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    It could also just be a really crappy mouse. Even at the same dpi setting, different mice can have very different feelings. And considering that mouse is bottom of the barrel as far everything is concerned, it would make a lot of sense.
     
  5. MasterRevan

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    I have to agree with Qing. The sensor could be a lower end component which is causing your issue.
     
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    I'd say that the problem is caused by acceleration. I have a Razer Naga Hex mouse, its sensor is capable of up to 5600dpi. When I enable acceleration and set it to i.e. 50%, any sensitivity setting above 1000 dpi is way too much for me to handle. With acceleration switched completely off, I have the sensitivity set to 2400-3600dpi (depending on a game/application) and it's really comfortable to work with. I experienced similar problems with my previous mouse, Microsoft Sidewinder X5.
    I would suggest installing a driver, which allows to disable acceleration.
     
  7. Geekz

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    It also depends on the user, for some that's used to playing with high sensitivity specially on FPS games, anything below 3000dpi is too slow for them.
    I also agree on the posts above that it can just be an issue with the sensor or the build quality of the mouse
     
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    Only expensive mice have the option to enable acceleration within the mouse; they need onboard memory to change the settings, and a processor to handle the acceleration. If there is a certainty with cheapo mice, it is that they have no acceleration or prediction.

    Some people like high mouse sensitivity and others don't. For gaming on a 1080p screen, I feel most comfortable with 800dpi and 1:1 mouse, pixel movement on the screen. That is about 5.4 inches of movement to make a 360 degree turn.

    For the desktop, things change, depending on what mouse I'm using, and what surface I'm using it on. For example, right now I am using my Logitech G400 on my pleather sofa on a 768p screen and have it set to 1800dpi. It is a great mouse on a surface that doesn't glide very well. This is as high as I will ever go under any circumstances, even with a 1080p screen.

    If you have the most recent firmware on your Naga, it has acceleration built into the mouse that you can't disable. It is to counter some ill effects of the Phillips Twin-Eye sensor, but I think it does a lot more harm than good. You would still have the enable/disable acceleration options in the firmware, but it is in addition to this other acceleration.
     
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    Can You please post sources for these information? No offence, but it sounds like a ton of BS to me.
     
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    Razer calls it "dynamic DPI scaling." It reduces the DPI down to a very low value when the mouse isn't being moved much. There is no way to disable it. The Philips twin eye sensor used in all of Razer's "high end" mice is susceptible to vibration on some surfaces, leading the cursor to dance around a bit, especially on higher dpi settings. So to hide this, Razer includes this acceleration in all of the twin eye sensor mice. Actually I was confused before, apparently all firmware for the Naga has this built into it.
     
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    Thanks for the info, + rep.
    As I mentioned before, I use 2400-3200dpi sensitivity. I'd say that it's "middle" setting rather than "high". I do not experience any negative effects of dynamic DPI scaling on performance of my Naga Hex.