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    Best Way Determine Best Wacom Pen

    Discussion in 'Accessories' started by kneehowguys, Dec 12, 2013.

  1. kneehowguys

    kneehowguys Notebook Evangelist

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    Microsoft Surface Pro 2 vs. Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga Comparison Smackdown - YouTube

    Lisa Gade, the reviewer, mentions that

    1. She mentions in the review that the yoga pro's pen is too small compared to the surface pro 2's pen and might give cramps but

    I'm 5'7 and she said that she was 6 foot in another video so I wonder if I should be looking for a smaller pen or how I should determine how big a wacom pen is.

    What size pen is best for me? Is a thick wacom better than a thin wacom?

    2. What wacom pen size and laptop did you find gave you the best experience and how tall are you/big are your hands?

    3. How important/convenient is having an eraser on the wacom pen?

    4. What machine gives you the best wacom experience in your opinion?
     
  2. tijo

    tijo Sacred Blame

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    This would be better asked over at TPCR, but regarding Wacom digitizers, all TabletPCs, convertibles, etc. that have Wacom except Wacom's own tablets have the same digitizer tech so you can use any pen that works with those. Don't let a small stock pen get in the way, just buy a larger pen to carry with you. I almost never use the pen that came with my Thinkpad Tablet 2, I use a generic TabletPC pen because it is bigger and more comfortable to use. Obviously, it can't be stored in the ben silo, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

    As for which provides the best experience (aka edge drift), look for reviews and user experiences, it's the only way you'll know.
     
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  3. Vogelbung

    Vogelbung I R Judgemental

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    'The best' experience is dependent on what you want.

    For me, 'the best' is a pen that I can actually find and use when I need it, and a bit of crab-handedness from a smaller pen to achieve that doesn't bother me. Which is why I really dislike the Surface Pro / Sony arrangement (and love the Tablet 2, despite the lack of the wacom reverse tip and the fiddly pen button). Specwise I'd love to have a Thinkpad Yoga but it's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overweight for what it is.
     
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    I do use the stock TPT2 stylus when I need it quickly, I pack the bigger Wacom pen for when I know I'll be taking notes in the lab. In that sense, I agree with Vogel, that you'd at least want something that has a pen silo and a usable pen when you need one quickly.
     
  5. kneehowguys

    kneehowguys Notebook Evangelist

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    So any tablet that comes w/ a wacom pen you can always buy a different sized wacom pen? I find that a little bit hard to believe. Isn't each tablet made for a certain kind of pen?

    Also how did you find the right size? Could not have just gone into a store and tried them all until you found the perfect size.
     
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    Let me put it this way: currently, all wacom penabled devices use the same technology to determine where the pen is with the only exception being the tablets made by Wacom themselves. The best analogy I can think of is capacitive touch displays: they are made to work with people's fingers and they work with all fingers because the way the tech work is the same regardless of who put the capacitive display in their device.

    You may need to recalibrate the digitizer to get a more accurate pen position, but it'll definitely work as long as it's a pen meant for tablet PCs.

    As for finding the right size: asking around and reading the specs for the various pens. It's pretty easy to know it's the right size if it is the same size as a regular pen and for something smaller, I'm sure you've had to use smaller pens at some point.
     
  7. Zero000

    Zero000 Notebook Deity

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    Most Wacom pens are made for the same technology. You should realize that Wacom has been making digitizers for awhile now and they haven't changed their technology too much. The pen from my 2008 Fujitsu LifeBook T5010 works on my Galaxy Note 2 phone and on my 2012 Lenovo ThinkPad X230t.
     
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    TabletPC Review would be a far better place to ask this question.

    Anyway, it depends on what you value more. Portability or comfort. Only Wacom Penabled pens will work. Non of their other pens will.

    Comfort wise, the Axiotron Studio Pen is widely regarded as the best. It is next to impossible to buy now though and if you somehow find one, will likely be expensive. There is a Wacom one, I think called the PL50; though it doesn't have as nice a grip.

    Size wise, the S-Pens are the smallest. The Thinkpad Tablet ones are the smallest with a 'rubber' on the end.

    Then there are the middle sized ones, that are more comfortable to hold due to being larger, but lack grips. Wacom sell one and the Fujitsu ones are probably the most common third party ones (very similar to the generic Wacom one).

    The Surface pen is distinctively 'meh'.

    I don't see how height has anything to do with this at all, other than as a proxy to hand size.

    If you want different 'feels', that depends on the tip used and the surface of the display.

    As for devices, there is too much to repeat. Just go to the TabletPC Review forums and have a read around.