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    Best Wireless KB and M

    Discussion in 'Accessories' started by w4j3d, Jan 20, 2011.

  1. w4j3d

    w4j3d Notebook Consultant

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    Any suggestions on a keyboard with the following features?

    1) compact (not big, I'm using it on my laptop)
    2) wireless (with good connection,) I have one wireless keyboard which is a peace of ***, it really lags and so.
    3) not expensive
    4) has customizable keys
    5) has typing (not gaming) in mind.

    And a mouse with the following features:
    1) wireless (with good connection)
    2) not expensive
    3) doesn't need to have 1000 buttons. A simple working one is enough.
     
  2. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    What exactly is your budget and where are you buying from? If you're a serious typer, consider this website:

    Mechanical Keyboard Guide - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net

    As the "best", personally, I'd recommend:

    TrulyErgonomic.com-Home - the only Truly Ergonomic Computer Keyboard on the planet

    For people who use type a lot. But at $200, it's quite a big pill to swallow for most. And mechanical keyboards are all wired... If you want cheaper, non-mechanical, wireless and ergonomic, I've used this before and liked it:

    Natural® Ergonomic Desktop 7000

    You can try it at most big chain electronic stores such as Best Buy to see if you like it. It's pretty big but I'm also 6' tall and walk around with a 16" laptop. The set can easily be found for $100 or less on sale and has a mouse too.
     
  3. kent1146

    kent1146 Notebook Prophet

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    For a keyboard, I'd actually recommend a wired keyboard with mechanical switch keys. Most cheap keyboards use membrane key motions, which wear out much faster and have keys that start to "wobble" over time. Mechanical switch keyboards last about 5x longer (10,000,000 keystroke life vs. 50,000,000 keystroke life), and will keep their smooth keystroke motion through its entire life.

    Mechanical switch keyboard(s) I'd recommend:
    Deck Legend Keyboard - $150. My keyboard. his is the last keyboard you will ever buy. Has colored LED backlighting.
    Das Keyboard Professional Model S - $130. Simple, reliable keyboard from a reliable brand.
    Generic-brand USB Keyboard w/mechanical switches - $50. Never used this, but it's cheap.

    If you must get wireless, or absolutely cannot afford mechanical, I'd recommend a Logitech Wireless keyboard that uses the Unifying Nano Receiver, like this one:
    Logitech Wireless K340 Keyboard - $47


    As for mice... will you be gaming?
    Yes, gaming: Logitech G700 mouse - $86.00
    No, no gaming, want full sized mouse for comfort: Logitech Performance MX - $74. Good for big hands, uses Unifying Nano Receiver.
    No, no gaming, want small mouse for portability: Logitech Anywhere MX - $50. Small, portable, uses Unifying Nano Receiver.

    The Logitech Performance MX and Logitech Anywhere MX mice both use Logitech's Unifying Nano Receiver. It is a very small USB wireless receiver that can connect to multiple devices that support Unifying. That means you can use both a Logitech wireless mouse + keyboard, while only taking up one USB port, as long as both devices support Unifying Nano Receivers.

    The other nice part about the Logitech Performance MX and Anywhere MX are that they use Darkfield imaging. That basically lets you mouse on any surface, including glass or polished granite. They are currently the only two mice that can do that.

    The mice are otherwise nearly identical. The main difference is size/shape, depending on your personal preference. The other difference is that the Logitech Performance MX allows you to charge its rechargeable battery via USB cable. The Logitech Anywhere MX does not charge its batteries in USB mode, it only stops draining battery in USB mode.
     
  4. w4j3d

    w4j3d Notebook Consultant

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    @sgogeta4

    [size='-1']My budget isn't big.
    The mouse? I only care for a non-lagging mouse with strong wireless connection. I'd pay 20-50$ dollars for that, whichever amount is best-bang-for-the-buck.

    The keyboard? 50-100$, with the aforementioned features:
    1) not expensive (best-bang-for-the-buck 50-100$)
    2) wireless (good wireless connection)
    3) customizable buttons so that I can press a special button to perform a sequence of key presses (i.e. a sequence of key presses which is a block of PHP code.)
    4) compact (I'll be using it on the bed many times surfing websites :p hehe.) By compact I mean not huge, just regular size.
    5) has typing in mind (I don't know if I should consider myself a serious typer, but I'm a programmer, so yes, I type a lot)



    And, no, I don't care (at all) about gaming when it comes to the mouse or the keyboard.

    I'd like to have a set or less than 100$, but that keyboard doesn't look fancy. I mean, I don't want to get adapted to a new keyboard. I'd like to have one with regular shape.


    EDIT: I missed the MS one. I'm taking a look at it now. But it still looks weird! does it really feel comfortable? Just seeing the look of it hurts my hands!

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    EDIT 2: Is that design of the MS keyboard really comfortable? Do I instantly get adapted to this design or does it take time?
    The only real drawback is that it is huge. Else, it seems to be perfect for me in every way.

    Are there any similar products with smaller size keyboard? That would be really ideal and perfect since the MS one has everything I want except the size disadvantage.

    EDIT 3: uh, the keyboard doesn't have customizable keys. It's the mouse the does :(
     
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  5. kent1146

    kent1146 Notebook Prophet

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    If you are dead set on wireless, and want to use a membrane-based keyboard despite the fact that you'll be doing a lot of typing, then I think a combo you should check out is:
    - Logitech K340 wireless keyboard - $43 shipped from Amazon
    - Logitech Anywhere MX wireless mouse - $48 shipped from Amazon

    Both use a Unifying Nano receiver, which means that you can wirelessly connect both devices to a single USB receiver that takes up only a single USB slot on your machine.
     
  6. w4j3d

    w4j3d Notebook Consultant

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    @kent1146

    Thank you for the additional information about the Performance and Anywhere.

    I think I'll take the Performance Mouse. But I'll make my decision at the end.

    The real problem is the keyboard.
    K340 lacks features.
    As I said, I want it with customizable keys (that perform a sequence of key presses.)
    Also I want it with typing/programming in mind. It doesn't need to have a special look, just comfortable keys that don't need power to be pressed, if it has more features I don't mind.

    I'm ready to pay a tad more (up to 150$ maybe for the keyboard?) I just don't want to get a keyboard that isn't totally satisfactory just because I didn't pay enough.

    And yes, wireless is important, wired is just out of question.
     
  7. w4j3d

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    I'll see if I can solve the customizable keys problem with software.

    I'll get back after I research.
     
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    Yeah, people have had their eye on the Optimus keyboard for quite some time. I am not even certain if it exists - it was vaporware for the longest time.

    The main problem that I have with it is that its key feature is its re-drawable OLED keys. But it doesn't actually mention anything about hwo good of a KEYboard it is, so you don't know how good it is when you actually type.

    edit: found a snippet on Engadget about the typing motion:

    Typing on it, well, sucks. We kind of hate to say it, but this thing more than likely won't replace what ever keyboard you're writing your novel on -- it's better off used as an absurdly configurable swiss army knife for tasks like gaming, Photoshop, or just about any other productivity app that doesn't require a lot of typing.

    As for your wireless keyboard search: I don't know how your search is going, or if you are dead-set on programmable macro keys. But I came across this deal just a few minutes ago that I think is right up your alley. All things being equal, I still prefer Logitech accessories over Microsoft accessories - but you simply cannot beat this price.

    Microsoft Bluetooth Mobile Keyboard 6000 $12.99 after rebate at Staples
    Staples has the Microsoft Bluetooth Mobile Keyboard 6000 for $42.99 - $30 Staples Easy Rebate = $12.99 with free site-to-store or free shipping on $50+. STAPLES

    To locate rebate, click here and search for rebate number 11-43856. Staples Easy Rebates are a cinch to submit — they can be submitted online immediately after ordering.

    The keyboard works with PC, Mac, and Sony PS3 according to A mazon customer reviews.

    Next lowest price on PriceGrabber is $52.94.​
     
  10. w4j3d

    w4j3d Notebook Consultant

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    Actually that keyboard is now $39.00 on Amazon. But I understand you suggested it as I'm searching for a keyboard with programmable keys, this one doesn't have any.

    I've just came across a program called Keyboard Layout Manager, I'm gonna examine it.


    Also, I just remembered that I can install intelliType on my computer which is for MS keyboards, it will allow me to change the function of a button to execute a program for example, but I don't know how that would be useful to make it perform a sequence of characters.
     
  11. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    From my first link above:

    Optimus Maximus
    Link: Art. Lebedev Studio
    Price: $2400
    Switch Type: Cherry ML Black
    Switch Mounting: PCB
    Keycap Printing: None
    Key Shape: Flat
    Interface: USB
    Rollover: Unknown
    Layout: Any
    Extra Features: Programmable OLED screens on each key
    Drawbacks: Price
    Other: I don't expect anyone to buy this keyboard, but it's here because it's mechanical.

    I'm surprising that the keyboard isn't great based on it's switch type since I've never had a bad experience with the Cherries.
     
  12. w4j3d

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    Actually just thinking of pressing on "small LCDs" hurts my fingers :D
     
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