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    DeathAdder Black Edition, G700 or Performance MX?

    Discussion in 'Accessories' started by Star Forge, Apr 21, 2011.

  1. Star Forge

    Star Forge Quaggan's Creed Redux!

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    So I am currently using a regular DeathAdder 3500 and I like it very much, except for the fact that Razer drivers are not the best in the business and it does it finicky in small movement sensitivity.

    However recently I smashed my corded Microsoft keyboard in a fit of nerdrage over a session of BC2, so I ended up getting a wireless Logitech K340 Keyboard, since I wanted to go cordless for a while. However, I realized that he K340 has Unity, so I was curious of getting a G700 or Performance MX to tie it with.

    However, I have heard that the Performance MX is not a good of a gaming mouse and the G700 has some battery life woes and some sensor finickyness when being used wirelessly. So I have decided to might just get the cooler-looking DeathAdder Black Edition and return my K340 for the HP Wireless Elite keyboard to further saving my space profile on my cramped desk.

    So fellow people, which mouse you think is better? Do you think Performance MX is a good move to wireless coming from a regular DeathAdder, the G700 a good move, or stick with the corded DeathAdder?
     
  2. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    I currently use a Logitech Performance Mouse MX, and have not experienced any issues with it.

    Its wireless, but with a small reciever.
    Also the driver suite, SetPoint is top notch and works great.
    Last thing, i can play games with it. :D

    Have not tried the G700, but i have used my brothers regular Deathadder and its okay too, but drivers are kinda hit & miss.

    But i came from a Revolution MX and its designwise very similar to the Performance MX.

    DEagleson
     
  3. Star Forge

    Star Forge Quaggan's Creed Redux!

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    Damn I posted in the wrong subforum, can a mod move it to the accessories section? Thanks!
     
  4. ZahariasX

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    I use a G700 and it's a great mouse. The battery may not last as long as other mice but you can just plug it in if you need a charge and still use it. :)

    The Logitech Performance Mouse MX wouldn't be a bad choice either. I've tried it in stores and it's quite nice.

    When it comes to mice Logitech does 'em right.
     
  5. Star Forge

    Star Forge Quaggan's Creed Redux!

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    I don't mind charging it everyday really, but it is the small finicky sensitivity I am worried about regarding the G700. Otherwise, I would of easily decided on the G700 and its heavy price tag.

    Also, I made an error in my posting, I am currently favoring to get the upgraded DeathAdder and stick with corded mice over wireless but is there anyone here that can address if the Performance MX is capable of good gaming performance despite being 1500dpi and the G700 still good as a wireless mouse, despite its finickiness?
     
  6. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    I don't know if this is a deal-breaker for you, but I'm fairly certain the G700 is not compatible with the unifying receiver; you'll need to plug in its own USB receiver.
    I can't comment on the G700's performance, as I don't own it. As for the Performance MX, its main issue is not DPI, but polling/response time. Pretty much any gaming-grade mouse has 1,000Hz polling, which yields 1ms response time. A "normal" mouse like the Performance MX has only 125Hz polling, and an 8ms response time. That increased delay is the main issue with non-gaming mice.

    As for the DeathAdder, why get the Black Edition if you already have the regular 3,500 DPI model? It's the same sensor; the differences are all cosmetic. Although you shouldn't be having any trouble with small movement on yours, so maybe you should get a warranty replacement.

    If you like the shape of the DeathAdder and want wireless, there's always the Mamba. It's expensive, but from time to time you can find them cheaper. I got mine for $70 refurbished from Woot.com.
     
  7. Star Forge

    Star Forge Quaggan's Creed Redux!

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    I just realized that the G700 uses a non-Unifying reciever. However it isn't going to be deal-breaker as I am starting to not like the K340 as the keys are way too small for me and the glossy trim is bugging me. I am going to return it back to Amazon.com after my HP Elite Wireless keyboard comes in. Therefore, I don't think the Unity limitation is going to be on my mind.

    That being said I was fearing the MX would feel slow compared to the DeathAdder and I won't get used to the slowness after being on the DA for a while, so I agree with you. The people that game with the MX were coming from the Revolution, so they got used to the delay in response time. However, I have been using the DeathAdder for a while, so it would feel sluggish going backwards.

    About the Black Edition, I do realize it sounds mad that I am getting the exact thing, but I really despise the glossy sides and my current DA gets cakes of dead skin cells and oils on the side like mad. I prefer a matte/rubberized finish and it is that reason I am going towards the Black Edition. That said, if yours don't have that slight small sensitivity issues, I might send it in for an RMA and then give the replacement to my friend as if the wireless Logitechs don't wet my whistle, I will get the DA Black Edition.
     
  8. ZahariasX

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    With the G700 you can store the small receiver in the battery compartment as seen here: [​IMG]
    Little convenience there.

    I don't have any finickiness with the G700 either. It's got a quite comfortable design one that I personally don't get in the Razer line of mice as well.

    Not sure if it's helpful at all for you but I've been using a G5 for years. Still use it for my desktop.
     
  9. c4sc4

    c4sc4 Notebook Consultant

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    What's this sensor finickness with the g700 you talk about? I have never had a problem with the sensor on my g700.
     
  10. roliath

    roliath Notebook Consultant

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    Logitech' scroll wheels have no business on a gaming mouse, for daily use they rock. But for gaming where precision is required i've noticed my weapons change on their own or I can't effectively change weapons using the scroll wheel. I'm not using the free-spinning mode either. I would recommend the razer to all those you listed.

    edit: I should have said, I'm have the performance mx which I use for my thinkpad since I don't game with it.
     
  11. Star Forge

    Star Forge Quaggan's Creed Redux!

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    To all you G700 Owners here is what I mean:

    G700 and small mouse movements - Logitech Forums

    This is a dealbreaker in my opinion but apparently it is only affected in certain batches... However if I end up gaming on this mouse wired, I might as well just get a DeathAdder Black Edition! :rolleyes:


    I found the Logitech scroll wheel fine as I kind of enjoy using it for everything when I had both the G500 and G9x. The reason I didn't keep either of them was not because of the scroll wheel, but the entire mouse had poor build quality.
     
  12. ZahariasX

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    No offense to you but I don't feel as if you're really looking for people's opinions on the matter. Not trying to be rude but a few people have told you that the G700 is a good mouse and I'm not the only one who has said that they don't experience this flickering you speak of. By the sounds of it you're more trying to convince yourself why you shouldn't buy the G700 and should buy the Razer mouse, more then finding reasons to why you should.

    This has nothing to do with me being a Logitech mouse user. Heck it's up to you what you use. I say you should get the Razer mouse since you seem pretty sold on it.
     
  13. Star Forge

    Star Forge Quaggan's Creed Redux!

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    Well the Razer has the same problem but it would defeat the purpose if the G700 gets the problem on wireless really as I could go and get a G500 (which I received three lemons in a row with it and was the reason I got a DeathAdder in the end). I guess I can give the G700 a shot but I really hope that problem won't affect me. At $80 USD it is really a gamble. If you don't have the problem then I guess I will give a shot. I do know that Logitech has a stellar warranty so if this does occur, I guess I can RMA for another but I trust you enough to believe that not all G700's are doing it. Also, I will admit I like the G700's features overall over the DeathAdder. It is just that I hope the tracking is good and not get finicky.

    Alright, well once I get the funds I will try out a G700 then. For the battery life you recommend getting spare AA Rechargeable batteries fully charged in hand and then swapping them when you get low during a gaming session?

    Pretty ,uch I am ready to give the G700 a shot. After look at my desk right now, I felt like I need less cords everywhere lol.
     
  14. ZahariasX

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    Fair enough. You shouldn't be disappointed. While there have been accounts of the problem you speak of they seem to be in small numbers compared to those who are happy with their G700. Same goes for any product you buy obviously. It's always a gamble because no product is 100% faultless.

    Extra batteries wouldn't hurt. Hell even if you changed the battery it comes with with one that has a higher NiMH for a little extra life. Of course if you run out there's always the cord so there's really nothing stopping you from gaming. ;)

    On a side note you should be glad the G700 only costs $80USD. When I got it here it was anywhere from 99.99-119.99. But I priced matched a sale and used a certificate I had....only cost me $78CDN.
     
  15. shinob!

    shinob! Notebook Consultant

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    Have been using the G700 for a quite a while,never noticed any of the finnicky issues Star Forge mentioned.In case you were wondering,i used it in a wide range of mouse surfaces,hard & soft,all tracking perfectly.As for the battery issue,i have set to 1000Hz polling & still manage to get at least 2-3 days of juice out of it.Even if the battery critical alert appears,you can still use it for at least 1 more day before replacing.& yes,i use it wirelessly all the time.
     
  16. AsusS

    AsusS Notebook Evangelist

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    I also like the deathadder but have come to love my G700 yes the battery saps away ha ha but that does not bother me anymore since i got 40 batteries from china :) for 7 pounds :D.

    Anyway i have both mice so i can swap when i want better that way ^_^.