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    Decent mouse for MMORPG

    Discussion in 'Accessories' started by sherlaine, May 18, 2009.

  1. sherlaine

    sherlaine Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have no clue in which mouse to get for online gaming. i guess thats why i am here reading and posting threads. hee..
    I need advices in which mouse to get... Not an expensive one.. :p thanks.
     
  2. Chango99

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    What's expensive for you? Do you claw grip or palm grip?

    I have a Logitech G9 that not love, but like over other mouses. I tried a Razor Deathadder, but it was a bit too big for me, especially considering i'm a claw gripper using a mouse specifically designed for palm grippers. Also when I first used it, my palm had a burning sensation where the "cool" glowing blue LED shone on and off. Still, I think it was rather comfortable, so i'd imagine a palm gripper would love it.

    Now, with the G9, pretty good all around, especially as a claw gripper. Some of the extra features are rather in incovenient places though imo, but those aren't meant to be used on the fly anyway (default increase/decrease dpi buttons, left/right middle click scroll and hyperscrolling switch).

    When I played WoW, I had many abilities keybound to modifiers + side buttons, scroll buttons, etc.
     
  3. garetjax

    garetjax NBR Freelance Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    I second the G9, especially for MMO's. The Logitech G9 is one of the most comfortable mice I have ever used. It comes with two different hand grips, one for people that are claw grippers, the other for people that "palm" their mice. You can also buy a third hand grip on Logitech's site. This is the one that I use the most, as I feel that it is a compromise between the two styles which is what I like and fits my hand and grip style the best.

    So yeah, I've been playing MMO's since days of EverQuest when it was owned by Verant, and thus far, the G9 is one of the best mice I've used for MMO's bar none, although I used the ubiquitous MX518 for years (also an exceptional mouse).

    Basically, it is going to come down to feel and ergonomics in my opinion. I would rather have a mouse that is very comfortable to use for hours on end and introduces no strain on my arm, wrist, hand, etc. than a mouse that features more buttons than a vending machine. Therefore, I recommend that you go to your local electronics store first and try some out before anything else.
     
  4. Signal2Noise

    Signal2Noise Über-geek.

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    G9 for all the reasons already stated. I still use the G9 with my lappy.

    Or consider the Steelseries Ikari Laser which is now my personal favorite. I use it with my gaming desktop.
     
  5. pbcustom98

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    i have one of these and i love it...
     
  6. hydrocyanic

    hydrocyanic Notebook Evangelist

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    you should be fine with almost any of the gaming mouse mentioned.

    razer deathadder/lachesis/mamba
    ms sidewinder x8
    logitech g9
    steelseries wow edition

    many are fine
     
  7. houstoned

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    how come the ikari optical and laser look like left handed mice?
     
  8. avanish11

    avanish11 Panda! ^_^

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    To be honest, a "gaming" mouse isn't needed for RPGs: only FPS games need one. Go to Bestbuy or a similar store, try out the mice they have on display, and buy the one that you think is the most comfortable.
     
  9. Chango99

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    I disagree. Extra buttons are vital for competitive mmorpg's. A clicker is never going to match up to the speed of someone with hotkeys.

    As for FPS, I see those are more interested in the DPI of the mouse.

    So, no one really needs it for either, but helps when gaming.
     
  10. avanish11

    avanish11 Panda! ^_^

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    Ack I stand corrected.

    Well not really. You could easily find a non-gaming mouse that has 5-7 buttons on it, and it would most likely be cheaper than the G9, Sidewinder, etc.
     
  11. garetjax

    garetjax NBR Freelance Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    I beg to differ. With more and more MMO's embracing PvP content (WAR and WoW come to mind), having a gaming rated mouse is a must if you want to be competitive.
     
  12. Luke1708

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    logitech vx revolution.
     
  13. Luke1708

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    logitech vx revolution is a good mouse for casual and gaming uses.
     
  14. hellfire88

    hellfire88 Notebook Consultant

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    I use a Logitech MX Revolution for when I play World of Warcraft on my gaming desktop. The extra buttons (as others have mentioned) really help. I can use the standard primary, secondary, and middle mouse buttons, but I can also bind tilt mousewheel left, right to something, the wheel by the thumb can also be used as 3 more buttons (tilt forward, back, and pressing in) and there's another button below the scroll wheel. Plus the regular forward + back buttons. So total I have like 11 buttons I can bind to spells/skills etc. Definately makes things easier versus hunting my skillbar for the right skill and left-clicking on it. I think that Ikari Steelseries WoW-edition mouse has even more buttons, so I kinda want to try that one out. It sells for $99 though so I'll stick with my MX revolution for now.
     
  15. garetjax

    garetjax NBR Freelance Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    Don't bother. There have been numerous reports that the mouse is a piece of crap, from its construction to its buggy software that supports the 20-some buttons and macros it uses.
     
  16. Azuricate

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    I'll go ahead and reccomend the Logitech MX518, been playing with it for 2 years now and still going strong, not that many extra buttons but I've had no problems with that.
    It all comes down to personal preference though, if you can, just go to your nearest tech store and try out all you can to see which one fits you the best.
     
  17. sherlaine

    sherlaine Notebook Enthusiast

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    is corded mouse better for gaming than cordless?
     
  18. butter30

    butter30 Notebook Consultant

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    i like corded mouse for my laptop because i tend to "misplace" things and i have lost around 3 cordless mouses to date ^^

    people say that cordless mouses are slower or something like that, but I've never noticed it in gaming
     
  19. garetjax

    garetjax NBR Freelance Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    I personally like corded mice over wireless mice for the following reasons:

    1) There is the potential that your wireless mouse battery will crap out on you during gameplay.
    2) While this may not be an issue now, but there can be a perceptible amount of lag with wireless mice vs. corded mice.
    3) Wireless mice have a tendency to be a bit more expensive than corded mice.
     
  20. hydrocyanic

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    if you wish to pay > 100, go ahead with a gaming wireless mouse (razer mamba, MS sidewinder x8) they will be either better or at least as best as the top end wired gaming mouse if not better. but they are expensive

    besides the two wireless gaming mouse, wired mouse are better and i would suggest to you razer mice such as deathadder (people like to shape better, i give it that cuz i don't have it) and/or lachesis (7buttons to play with + dedicated dpi adjustment (2) ) i currently have one and i like it a lot

    besides the two mentioned, sidewinder(corded) or logitech g9 are both good. i like MS's idea to have 3 buttons for specific dpi slots since you really don't need more than that

    i always stick with bigger brands and i will stop here.

    for rpg i would hope to have at least 2 different settings of dpi myself, after having own lachesis, they are just "better" mouse.

    ps. i prefer corded,or at least wireless the way sidewinder x8 does (cord hub that you can charge the mouse when it is low and use it like a corded one)



    note: wireless are great, but they come at a cost to pay for, and they are as fast and as responsive.
     
  21. Signal2Noise

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    There is nothing worse than having to swap a battery on a cordless during an intense gaming session.

    On a good corded mouse the cable is designed in such a way that it still feels like you are using a wireless.
     
  22. sherlaine

    sherlaine Notebook Enthusiast

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    haha I know what you mean by swapping batteries. I have been through that too..
     
  23. blindfighterpilot

    blindfighterpilot Notebook Guru

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    I say g9, but you should just go try a few out before buying!
     
  24. Kinghong1970

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    which MMO?

    i used to play WoW and my VX Revolution is a MUST...

    thumb back button is to run/walk
    thumb front button is to shoot/throw
    zoom +/- i forget what... iirc flying mount/ground mount
    scroll wheel left and right is for stance dance (i play a prot warrior tank)

    just don't run out of battery in a raid...
     
  25. sherlaine

    sherlaine Notebook Enthusiast

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    WoW is a p2p game. I play free mmo like shaiya, 2moons, 9dragons..
     
  26. Kinghong1970

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    ha ha ha... well, depends on what kind of server you're on... PvP server is a gank fest whereas PvE servers is more RPG ish...
     
  27. Signal2Noise

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    P2P = Pay to Play.
     
  28. NBRUser0159099

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    well i for one own the mamba, and i dont think any mouse can beat it since everyone wants a GAMING mouse, with all them fancy features...high dpi.. and such but then people also want a wireless mouse. The Mamba is a mix and if you can afford it, then its perfect. It has high dpi, although i think its useless, great wireless, NO LAG WATSOEVER. It never **** up, basically like ur holding a wired mouse cept with no cord but still retaining features. Another great thing, it is WIRED/WIRELESS so when the battery runs out, appr. 14hrs of gaming on one charge, general use about 72hrs, then it can quickly become a wired mouse and charge battery while still in use. It charges fully in around 2hrs when not in use. So all your late night LAN parties wont be held back by its battery life. Thats all i have to say about this mouse.
     
  29. garetjax

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    Other than the fact that it's $130? I'll check back with you 6-8 months from now and see if you're still enjoying your Mamba. Razer mice are notorious for their rather pathetic build quality.
     
  30. hydrocyanic

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    my lachesis's build quality has been nice thus far.

    if 130 is too muchto cough up, consider MS sidewinder x8 (100)

    besides the design difference from mamba and not having a 5400dpi sensor, it has a better(as it should) capability to track various surfaces with its bluetrack sensor. (4000dpi)

    i believe it has longer continuous run time as well and i like the LCD display on dpi as well as having 3 buttons specified for dpi.

    only issue is that you will need to not hate the design first as it can be difficult to love by everyone.
     
  31. NBRUser0159099

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    Well, to me, i think that there is only a handful of people who experience Razer mice to be broken. 5 of my friends have either Deathadder/Lachesis/Copperhead ever since summer of last year or before. They haven't broken to date. I dont expect my mouse to last 5 years. Maybe 3 years, hopefully...But i think that Razer is a good quality company. The Microsoft X8 was looking really tempting. It seemed nice but the one offput was the design/ergonomics. I've felt the DeathAdder, and i think that is the best design ever on mice. But the X8 just seems to uncomfortable. If the OP doesnt care about Wireless, then i suggest the DeathAdder, such a great mouse, my friends got it for discount for around 40USD, im sure you can get it at that price. If the design isnt a issue and you dont mind battery re-swapping instead of Li-ON chargeable, than the X8 is also a great choice.
     
  32. garetjax

    garetjax NBR Freelance Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    It's not the design that I hate when it comes to Razer mice. It's their ergonomics, which is why the Logitech G9 still reigns supreme in this very critical area.
     
  33. -L1GHTGAM3R-

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    i recommend the logitech G5 for several reasons.
    1.adjustable weights
    2.good grip
    3.smooth moving
    4.quick adjustable dpi 500 1000 2000
    5.responsive

    and its good for any situation FPS RPG RTS.....ECT.
     
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    Well, i think he is talking about the Sidewinder X8, the Razer are perfect ergonomics IF its For your type of grip. If you are a palm gripper, then the deathadder will be the best you will ever feel. But if you are the Claw type, then nothing is surpassed by Logitech's G9 mouse. Although, to tell the truth, the G9 looks really ugly but perfect ergonomics. Even for palm grippers, the iD grip, newly released, will be helpful which overhauls the design as well making it look good and perfect for palmers.
     
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    Ive actually heard different about the Bluetrack sensors. It tracks perfect on most things except for clear glass (derhhh) but also Cloth pads. So all you QCK owners/Goliathus Owners/Other Cloth pad owners be aware. It jitters like hell with cloth pads. One of the reviews i just read said it was highly unrecommended because the reviewer had no idea that it sucks with cloth pads. But if you have destructor, which i have and is smooth as silk, then you wont have any problem.
     
  36. hydrocyanic

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    haven'thave a cloth padfor ages so i have no clue about that, but if a review is render down to nothing just because it doesn't track on cloth no one should take that review or the person with more than a grain of salt...

    next time we will have a reviewering saying every other mice is useless b/c they couldn't track glass or whatever...
     
  37. NBRUser0159099

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    I'm in no way trying to DISS the X8, its a wonderful mouse. I'm saying though that people who use Cloth pads will find poor performance. This is more of a suggestion to people who might find it bad with cloth pads. I read some reviews and the comments at the bottom were dissing the mouse because it was jittering but luckily the reviewer RE-REVIEWED it with a hard mat and all was good. Now if you liked the Sidewinder, then you will love the X8.

    Anyways, it is quite a con to not be able to track on cloth pads. Many people use them as they are soft and less rigorous on the Teflon grips. I could go on about this but the fact that a lot of people would be forced to change mats isn't a very good idea. At least IMO its not a good idea to be limited to hard mats because of mouse requirements.
     
  38. hydrocyanic

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    no worries dude, i said that because it is as silly to say another mouse doesn't read on _____ surface and claim it is bad, that's all.

    in fact, i find wired to be just fine. 7feet of wire is over killing and i always wrap 6feet of cord anyways.

    there are soft rubber/plastic mat though, correct? haven't have a gaming solution to actually enjoy fps games so i can't comment further.