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    Dell - 2209WA vs. U2410

    Discussion in 'Accessories' started by SoundsGood, May 7, 2010.

  1. SoundsGood

    SoundsGood Notebook Virtuoso

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    I'm torn between the 2209WA and the U2410.

    Anyone own both of these? I'm looking for a "hands-on" comparison of picture quality.

    Thanks...
     
  2. sniper_sung

    sniper_sung Notebook Evangelist

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    I only have a U2410 and I'm very satisfied with it. If cash is not a problem then go for U2410 straight away so there is no room left for regret.
     
  3. Peon

    Peon Notebook Virtuoso

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    Neither - if you can afford the U2410, get something that's not H-IPS.

    Though the technology behind H-IPS is theoretically superior to the older S-IPS, I've yet to see a sub-$1000 H-IPS panel that wasn't flawed. Pink tints are a common complaint among U2410 owners, for instance. On the other hand, there are many excellent sub-$1000 S-IPS monitors, if you can find them...
     
  4. SoundsGood

    SoundsGood Notebook Virtuoso

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    Thanks, but too late. I ordered a U2410 just a little while ago.

    Dell Small Business has a special deal today on a U2410 for $449.10

    I was torn between the U2410 and the 2209WA, but I decided that this price was too good to pass up.

    If anyone has any U2410 tips for me, let me know. :) Thanks!
     
  5. Peon

    Peon Notebook Virtuoso

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    There's not much to say, other than the fact that you'll likely need to calibrate it to some extent when you get it because manufacturers tend to assume that people who buy high-end monitors know what they're doing and would rather do that kind of thing themselves.

    In short, if the colors look really off the first time you turn the monitor on, don't freak out until after you've tried calibrating it :)
     
  6. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I'd have to say go with a 2209WA. I hear fewer complaints about the monitor, though earlier revisions of the monitor did have tinting problems.

    If you hunt around, you might be able to get the monitor for $215 or so. I have not paid more than $230 for any of the 2209WA monitors that I have had and in fact bought a third one for $225 yesterday.
     
  7. SoundsGood

    SoundsGood Notebook Virtuoso

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    I came close to getting the 2209WA. The $229 price was VERY tempting. But take a peek above and you'll see I got the U2410 for $449.

    It seems that most of the reported U2410 problems were fixed with Rev A01 -- well, I'm hoping so. I'll know soon enough. ;)

    Of course if I don't like the U2410 I'll return it and order the 2209WA.
     
  8. Chris_ast1

    Chris_ast1 Notebook Consultant

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    I own 2209WA since a year and it is great. Horizontal/Veritcal angles are 170. Color reproduction - compared to TN matrix is WAY better, especially when you compare "human skin" displayed on both TN and IPS. I bught it for 299$ and was pleased with two things:
    - price for IPS panel
    - a bit big (0,27) dot/pix size (I have problems with vision so bigger dot is better).
     
  9. SoundsGood

    SoundsGood Notebook Virtuoso

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    They're pretty close:

    2209WA / U2410
    0.282 / 0.27 (Pixel pitch)
    90 / 94 (PPI)
     
  10. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    from what i know , the U one is better but the price kills it for me in UK.. ur lucky with such a deal.. good luck..
     
  11. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Both monitors are good choices, and personally I think they're the best 22" and 24" monitors out there.
     
  12. tasty_chicken

    tasty_chicken Notebook Consultant

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    I have the 2209WA. The reason why i got the 2209WA over the U2410 is because i can get 2 2209WA for the price of 1 U2410. You can't go wrong with either one. Just depends how much money you want to spend.
     
  13. SoundsGood

    SoundsGood Notebook Virtuoso

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    There's no doubt that the 2209wa is the best 22" on the market. And I came really close to buying one for that reason.

    I'm not sure if the u2410 is quite as good, to be honest, but my laptop already has 1600x900 resolution, so I thought the 1680x1050 of the 2209 might not be enough of a difference for me.

    Still, it was tough deciding between the two. If not for the great deal on the 2410 I would have ordered the 2209 for sure.
     
  14. kettyo

    kettyo Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have a 2209WA at home but there is also a U2410 i can work with in the office (not mine but checked out really well :)). Both are latest revisions.

    I'm quite sure that the 2209WA has a better picture.
    Contrast of the 22" seems much better to me.
    Colors are great on both but because of better contrast they also look better on the 22".
    Brightness setting is better on the 24", the setting range of the 22" is at way too high. On a 0 to 100 range i use 3 brightness but it's really perfect for me.
    Black level of the 24" might be somewhat better but i'm not quite sure.
    Viewing angles of the 22" look considerably better than that of the 24". Actually i consider the VA of the 24" really poor for an IPS monitor especially from the top (it produces some TN-like inverting effects from the top). VA of the 22" are perfect.

    The pro's of the 24" are the numerous inputs and PIP options and possibility of 1:1 mapping and stretch with keeping aspect ratio options compared to the featureless 22".

    It's most important if you chose the 24" to change the color mode from standard to srgb because the standard color mode is exceptionally bad on the 24" while in the srgb mode it has very good colors.

    Also the 24" has full-hd resolution which might be a pro or con depending on the person. I think watching full-hd movies on a 24" monitor is kind of perverted (there is some consensus that it needs a 46" or bigger screen to really tell the difference between full-hd and hd) and i prefer the bigger text and icons of the 1680 res compared to the 1920 (personally i'd prefer an even lower res but it's non-existant in that monitor size afaik).

    Personally i won't pick the 24" even for the same price as a 22" because i feel the picture quality of the 22" is much better. I don't know if it's a general difference of picture quality between the two models or PQ is different from monitor to monitor based on the quality of the panel built in though so don't take my thoughts as definitive.
     
  15. kettyo

    kettyo Notebook Enthusiast

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    P.S.: The pivot mode is super for both. You can rotate the screen in a moment so now i'm regularly changing the orientation based on the material i'm working with (added shortcut keys for rotating the display).
     
  16. SoundsGood

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    Hey kettyo, thanks very much for the detailed write-up. I only wish you had posted this before I purchased a U2410! ;)

    I'm torn about my feelings on the U2410. On one hand I love that the extra resolution allows so much more to be displayed on the screen. But I agree that the viewing angles -- especially vertical -- are not that great. Actually that really kinda bugs me, since it was my main reason for wanting an IPS monitor. My wife has an old Dell 20" IPS monitor that has fantastic viewing angles, so I was hoping for the same from the 2410.
     
  17. Pravinuss

    Pravinuss Notebook Enthusiast

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    Have anyone checked out the U2311? Seems to like a bridge between the 2209WA and the U2410. But currently there's one thing that kinda wierd is that the U2311 is actually cheaper than the 2209wa. The u2311 has a slightly larger, higher res and even has a additional displayport connection. :confused:
     
  18. Volker

    Volker Notebook Consultant

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    The 2209WA and U2410 are 16:10, the new u2311 is 16:9. So the panel area of the 23" diagonal u2311 is about the same as the 22" diagonal 2209WA.

    Its cheaper because the LCD manufacturers changed most of their fabs to 16:9, so Dell has to pay more for the rarer 16:10 panels.

    For watching widescreen movies, 16:9 is better. For doing actual work, 16:10 is the more useful aspect ratio.
     
  19. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    e-IPS panel is getting cheaper and cheaper now, there is also more monitor manufacturer whom is joining the e-IPS bandwagon. The price changes depending on exchange rate, the agreed parts price, amount of monitor produced and what sort of profit level the company wants to get out of it.

    I have just ordered a U2311 after seeing one at my friend's house, which was pretty good for watching movies and doing some light photoshop work. But the colour seems to be not as rich as the U2410 that i got, which uses the H-IPS technology, but i guess it is expected given the large price discrepancy. RRP of U2410 = nearly 2 U2311.
     
  20. Pravinuss

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    Yeah, its quite a steal at that price. Being a tn user all my life i still to date haven't seen a ips panel so quite excited for it. Back in my country the U2311 is going for SGD$269 so i can literally buy 3 U2311s for 1 u2410.
     
  21. kettyo

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    I would describe the viewing angles of my 2209WA fantastic too.

    I'm happy you liked my review.

    It seems the differences could be more general than individual.
     
  22. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    i got mine U2410 for $446.11 AUD (they did not have any stocks of older 24 inch ultrasharp LCD left, so they price matched) and mine (waiting for delivery by early next week) U2311 for $299.69 AUD... thanks Dell...
     
  23. gierke

    gierke Newbie

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    How did you get a U2410 for $446? :O

    when was this?
     
  24. kettyo

    kettyo Notebook Enthusiast

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  25. Volker

    Volker Notebook Consultant

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    Its "satisfactory", not "satisfying". Thats a big difference :D

    But I agree, prad.de are serious monitor nerds and they have the best reviews I've ever seen.
     
  26. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    i got it because they run out of the stocks of the new 2408WFP, which they were discounting as part of their stock clearance sale. So they offered me the 2410 instead for the same price. It was like 2 months ago.

    You can get the U2311 for 296 dollars from Dell right now.

    I wish i had purchased a couple of the 2408WFP.