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    M1330 + NC1000 = No Point?

    Discussion in 'Accessories' started by Ebae, Jul 11, 2008.

  1. Ebae

    Ebae Notebook Enthusiast

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    hey NBR...
    i have been visiting this site since last year and finally decided to join.
    i was just too lazy to register.

    anyways the question is...
    there is so many threads about the Zalman NC1000 being so good.
    but is it really m1330 owners?
    does the NC1000 vent line up with the vent of the m1330?
    i have read many articles and seen pics of NC's and m1330's together.
    they dont line up...
    so how is this a good NC for the m1330?
    does the cool air flow upwards in that angle to the m1330 vent?
    does the nc1000 work great because ur lappy is half hanging off the front?
    and doesnt that angle mess up your hard drive? (spinning in an angle)

    im not hating on this notebook cooler its just that im not understanding how this works well with the m1330...
    m1330 owners please give me reasons to buy this NC or another NC.
    money is not a factor as long as it is worth it...

    thanks.
     
  2. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    notebook coolers give the tilt in order to have both better airflow and ergonomics.

    notebook HDDs are designed to work at different angles... even if its vertical.

    the Zalman has varied results on every notebook, depending on the notebooks size, thermal design, chassis design, etc...

    most people will not notice a difference in temps during basic usage, but a notebook cooler shines best during gaming or intense tasks that makes the CPU/GPU go to full load.
     
  3. Ebae

    Ebae Notebook Enthusiast

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    yeah i want to cool it down for gaming.
    rumored: Nvidia screwed up on the 8400m on the m1330. overheating.
    thats why i want to get a NC for my m1330.
    i read a lot of good reviews for this NC.
    and i want to get it but i just dont see how it works well with the m1330.
    since the fan and the vent of m1330 doesnt line up.
    just want hear some opinions.
     
  4. cacto

    cacto Notebook Enthusiast

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    Just to let you know, the entire 8400/8600 line GPU's are fine. The person who wrote that article is completely against NVIDIA. Also, it's not the graphics card that is the problem, it's the design of the m1330.

    Anyways, back to normal, since you were looking at coolers, I would recommend the Belkin Laptop Cooling Stand, review found here. You can easily go into many stores, such as best buy, circuit city, etc. and take a look at it yourself, to see if it suits your needs.
     
  5. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    Most coolers are under par.... especially the ones with static small fans.

    The Zalman coolers started a great trend in trying to cool the entire stage rather than static areas.... which helps make it the most versatile cooler for most notebooks that all have different bottom chassis designs.
     
  6. Ebae

    Ebae Notebook Enthusiast

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    thanks for the tip cacto.
    i prefer something a little bit more sturdy and dual fan.
    will cheeck out though.

    hey gophn,
    notebooks with vents on the bottom, isnt it usually in the bottom rear?
    one thing for sure is you want the fan kicking out the hot air through the back.
    away from the user.
    so most likely the intake vent should be in the rear as well.
    i think if zalman made their NC the other way it would be more efficient.
     
  7. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    a couple of thing...

    - heat rises
    - zalmans intake air on the bottom, and passes the air to the stage (like an air hockey table)
    - notebooks intake air from the bottom and exhausts them on the back/sides

    so the design is not flawed on the Zalman
     
  8. Ebae

    Ebae Notebook Enthusiast

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    zalman nc intakes air from the bottom and passes the air to the middle/front of the stage.(not the rear)
    My notebook intakes air from the bottom rear where the nc stage does not pass air.
    i mean dont most notebooks intake from bottom rear and kick out through the back?
    i know macs dont but most do no?
     
  9. meh

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    Hmm, most notebooks I see and take note of are usually business notebooks. The Dell D6x0 series (D600, D610, D620, D630) all take air from the bottom of the notebook on the left side and exhaust it with a fan out the back. The T60/T61 does the same.
     
  10. ghostbear

    ghostbear Notebook Guru

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    I have Zalman NC2000, and I was getting stronger airflow from the left than the right side. Maybe I got a defective unit, but the fans do seem to spin at roughly the same speed. Anyway, since my laptop has no or little vent on bottom left, I redirected the airflow to the right, and I'm now getting much better results.
     
  11. Ebae

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    Ive been gone for a bit...
    so i finally decided to get the NC1000.
    just arrived, but i need to go home to check it out with my m1330.
    i will post a review of it later tonight for the people who have a m1330.
    by the way Cacto... its not a rumor anymore... dell officially announced it.
    they are offering bios and drivers for that problem, which is just a band aid.
    just makes your fan kick in early and harder to cool the the overheating 8400
    which is not good for your notebook
    but thats another subject/thread
    anyways the review..... tonight.
     
  12. houstoned

    houstoned Yoga Pants Connoisseur.

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    u should've looked into the copper mod first. the headsink/fan design in the m1330 is different. the said heatsink/fan design does not provide enough cooling efficiency.

    and the most versatile cooler would be the nzxt cyro LX . <~ thats a period.
     
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  13. Ebae

    Ebae Notebook Enthusiast

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    houstoned
    i checked out that cooler you were talking about...
    its for 15/17 inchers
    thats too big for my notebook

    sorry guys i will post a full review when im not tired....

    so basically according to hwmonitor my avg GPU temp is 65C with nc1000
    thats on high fan, running itunes and just surfing the web.(dell power mode high)
    my avg GPU temp without the nc1000 was 72C (highest reached 76C)
    NYC outside 72F according to NY1
    i did not have the A/C running in my room during this test
    under these conditions avg of 7C difference is pretty impressive
    especially because the fan speed is not as strong as what i expected
    however the air coming out of the nc1000 is cooler than i expected
    some people complained about the cool air distrubution
    mine distrubutes cool air evenly through out the pad
    and i will answer my own question (the one i started this thread with)
    yes it does not line up with the m1330 intake
    the nc1000 vents end right before the intake of the m1330
    but a bit of the cool air does reach the intake, just not direct
    also there are other vents under the m1330 that does take direct cooling
    some people say its too loud on high...
    its not silent but it is definitely quieter than the m1330 fan on high
    the tilt is nice
    typing is so much easier (not a dramatic tilt)
    so basically so far so good.
    when i have time i will post up numbers from gaming usage
    i will test it with TF2 and PES2008
    remember this test was done in august!
    imagine how much cooler my m1330 would be during fall/winter
    anyways hope this helps someone to buy or not buy the nc1000
     
  14. houstoned

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    thats why i didn't recommend the cryo LX to u. it'll dwarf a 13 incher.
    the nc1000 or infinity 8 would be more ideal/logical for notebooks under 15"

    congrats on yur purchase. let us know how it goes after more testing =)
     
  15. Ebae

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    thanks houstoned
    yeah i ll try to get the numbers soon
    Hyori fan i c...
     
  16. neaL_

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    Cool little review there Ebae.. I`ve had an M1330 and NC1000 for a little while now, but other than touching the laptop itself, I`ve never taken any real temps. Post up those gaming temps when ya can!
     
  17. Ebae

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    Neal
    yeah thanks you actually helped me to get it...
    i think i saw one of your posts u had pics too...
    i think it was you... i remembered two bananas in pj's icon haha

    by the way guys a little revision on the review
    cool air is not distrubuted evenly... Ghostbear is correct
    i dont believe this is a defect
    the fans of nc1000/nc2000 is not centered... it is alittle over to the left of the pad
    that is why the fan blows out air a bit harder on the left
    either way it still puts up decent numbers for the m1330
    i like the power button, you dont have stick or pull out USB to turn on/off
    and i think everyone who owns a nc1000 will say its built to last
    *important* this is my first and only cooler i am not comparing with other coolers (cause i dont have another cooler to compare to, im not gonna say this is the best cooler to justify my purchase like some others im gonna tell it how it is the good the bad)
    yes now i must go home to play some TF2 so i can post up numbers

    by the way can someone tell me whats the avg temp for a 'notebook' GPU?
    in idle and gaming, please dont tell me your 'desktop' GPU is 20C
    whats the temp that burns out my mother board?
     
  18. houstoned

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    notebook temps vary from notebook to notebook. u could have 2 different branded notebooks, both with the same specs. but the 2 notebooks would probably have different temp readings.

    - GPU idles at around 53c with my cooler.
    - GPU during light use (movies/surfin the web): 58c-59c
    - GPU temps during benchmark: AVG: 66c-69c; PEAKS: 70c-71c