I decided to make this thread because everything that I've been reading on here is roughly 2+ years old and looks stale or images aren't working anymore. I received my Cooler Master NotePal U3 PLUS (man what a mouthful) today. My other parts should be showing up either tomorrow or on Monday. This is what I chose for parts:
Cooler Master NotePal U3 PLUS (Although I was HIGHLY considering the MasterNotepal Pro)
Kingwin Four Channel Turn Knob Multi-Fan Cooling Controller
Coolerguys 100-240v AC to 12 & 5v DC 4pin Molex 2A Power Adapter
Noctua Fan with Focused Flow and SSO2 Bearing, Retail Cooling NF-F12 iPPC 3000 PWM (I went with these over the Vader for aesthetic purposes and I love Noctua fans)
Silverstone Tek 120mm Ultra Fine Fan Filter with Magnet Cooling FF123B
TP-Link 9-Port USB 3.0 Hub with 7 USB 3.0 Data Ports and 2 Smart Charging USB Ports
Since this fan controller doesn't fit on the side in the back like the initial revision @Mr. Fox posted up, I'm going to see if I can get a little creative with this. I noticed on @Mr. Fox latest revision he built some wood bracing to go across the front of the laptop cooler. I like this idea because I'm not going to be using the keyboard on the laptop at all while it is on my desk so the angle doesn't matter to me. I also have this Scotch RF5761 Outdoor Fastener Velcro (Hold up to 5lbs), 1-inch x 15-feet that I can cut down place on the front and back of the controller to help keep it attached to the stand but also allow it to be easily removed.
I want to try to make just nice little wooden pegs that go on the front of the stand and plastidip them in matte black to match the frame, then have the controller probably on the left side near the front of the stand pushed up against the leg so it doesn't get in the way of the 3 fans at the top. I'll take pictures and update as I progress on this. But I'm a stickler for nice looking things so I can't just get some crappy leftover wood and call it a day.
The reason I chose the fan filters that I did is so I can place on on each side of the fan and screw them in without taking up anything more than a tenth of an inch in space. I'm not worried about airflow because if need be 3000rpm will push through any filter over top of them. These got really great reviews for keeping dust out, while sacrificing some airflow but taking up next to zero space, which is exactly what I want.
The biggest question I'm having is whether I should have two of the fans pushing in and one of the fans pulling out or all going in or all coming out. I haven't really seen any temp tests on here regarding that so I might have to run my own to see what works best. Any thoughts or suggestions are welcomed!
Got a couple updates. So I received a bit more of my items and I thought I was ready to put it all together. Well, it turns out that the Noctua Fans that that purchased have self tapping screws. While this is not an issue normally, the holes on the NotePal were not large enough to allow the screws to pass through them. So I had to order Anti-Vibration Fan Mounts instead. The best ones I was able to find were from over in the UK from a company called QuietPC. Below is a link to the fan mounts:
Acousti Ultra-Soft Flush-Fit Silicone Fan Mounts AFM02B
There were plenty of other options that were much cheaper, but I really liked the reviews and the other parts from this site. So I was willing to spend a little bit extra for not super fragile rubber that might break upon attaching them to the fans and/or case. I really wish I had my laptop but FedEx didn't knock hard enough when they attempted to deliver my laptop so now I have to wait until Monday.
Another item that I am not 100% on after testing it is the Kingwin Fan Controller. It seems to have trouble supplying equal amounts of voltage (I think) to each fan. When I have them all turned on full blast, I was able to hear some slight differential hummer between them as if the power wasn't steady and it made me a bit weary of how long it will actually last. The other thing was, that when I turned the fan controllers all the way down, the fan that was first farther to the left always stopped, while the fans after it always kept moving. One would think that they either should all stop or all keep moving. So, just testing to see if it was that specific knob, I unplugged fan 1 which was stopping and plugged it into plug 4 and when I turned them all down, fan 2 completely stopped moving while 3 and 4 kept spinning. So in saying, that, I might look into a different fan controller option that isn't quite as cheap per say. I had my eye on this Scythe KQ01-BK-3.5, the only downside is that it is not fully enclosed so I would either have to roll with it like that or find someone to make a top with leave a slit fr the wires to come out of. I like how this controller does not have any LED indicators on it making it more discreet under the NotePal.
Now onto the good stuff. The fans are absolutely gorgeous and I'm very glad that I went with them over the Vader. Having them on full blast still moves a great amount of air but the noise isn't crazy loud, but loud enough still to annoy someone who isn't use to it being in the room. I also receive the dust covers which are also great quality. They fit perfectly and the screws that came with them will blend into the Noctua's perfectly. Once I get the Anti-Vibration Fan Mounts we should be golden and finally be able to put everything together. Shipping time on those is... longer than I would like, upwards of 2 weeks through USPS Air Mail. But sometimes you just have to wait for the good stuff.
Below are a few pictures of everything so far and my next update will be one I finally start assembling everything together.
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Another Update.
I just want ahead and installed one of the mesh fan filters on the fan and it seems like they were not made good enough to not allow any flex in the mesh so whenever the fans are up against the NotePal it sucks the mesh in due to the high static pressure and you can hear the fan center rubbing up against the mesh creating this horrible higher pitched rubbing sounds. Hard to explain but I immediately knew that I just need to not cut any corners on cost here and wound up getting 3 Silverstone Ultra Fine 120mm Magnetic Fan Filter (SST-FF123B) instead as I know these will be quality components that won't have any rubbing. I'm going to update the OP to reflect this change. The screws that came with the really thin mesh filters are great so I'm not really out any money since 40 nice screws for $7 isn't that bad of a deal either.
LOOOONG time no update, this is definitely overdue. So once I found out that the mesh dust covers were not going to work and willing to spend a bit of extra money on the Silverstone Magnetic Fan Filter, I promptly purchased them from Amazon and boy is the difference in quality apparent.
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But anywho, next on the list I needed to find a nicer way to support the front of the cooler using as little bulk as possible. So off to Home Depot I went, I spend a good 30-45 minutes trying to decide what knobs I wanted to use from their custom cabinet section. Eventually I decided on the ones you see below because of their minimal nature and rounded long edges for stability. Please take note of the little spike on the end of the knob (foot) as they did impede with trying to attach them to the cooler frame and I had to shave them down using the cement sidewalk outside my house (I wasn't prepared to sand anything down) but luckily the metal was rather soft and shaved down pretty quick, it just took a very steady hand to make sure it was shaved down evenly.
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The screw that came with these knobs did not screw all the way down flush due to being used on drawers normally so to compensate for this I had to pick up some washes to fill in the game since the metal of the cooler was so thin. I used 4 washes total per each "foot" installed, one on the top and 3 on the bottom and it worked like a charm!
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Once I had everything screwed down tight and seemingly straight to my eyeball, I flipped it over and basked in how nice it looked with those feet on it.
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On to he next update! So now that I had a solid base going on, I felt that next it was appropriate to add the fans on to make sure everything fit as it should. I wanted to get them as centered as possible but also leave room for some cables to be routed through them so everything could come out of the back of the stand and not the sides.
I placed my laptop on it's lid and put the stand on top of it, the reason for this it to see where the vents on the bottom of my laptop would be and I would want to situate the fans under those vented areas for the best possible airflow into the laptop. It's a little hard to see but in the upper left and right are the CPU and GPU fans and down the center is also vented slots to cool the chipset and m.2's
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I marked the center of the stand with a piece of scotch tape and went to work on moving them around and counting holes. Eventually I ended up with the following resting place. Some people might look at this and notice that the fans aren't as far out as they should be to pump air into the GPU and GPU fans, but I did that intentionally. The reason is that only so much air can flow through those fans and pumping more into them will just go to waste, so instead I moved them in towards the center to help with cooling the pipes directly coming off of the CPU and GPU through the middle vented slots instead.
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The biggest issue I ran into while trying to attach the fans to the stand was that the screws were self tapping and too large to fit through the holes already made in the stand. So not wanting to butcher the stand at all I went out and found some of the best rubber mounts I could fine. If I can recommend one thing it would be these, they were super pliable, very strong and held the fans in place without an issue. This would also step any sort of vibration from the hard plastic onto the metal reducing overall noise.
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Once I attached the fans to the stand I put the dust filters in place (boy this is coming together nicely!)
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Next on the list is the fan controller. These Noctua fans are loud and powerful and that is great when I will be playing games because I'll have headphones on and won't head them, But if I'm just going recreational work and don't need the extra cooling, I want a way to be able to quiet them down or turn them off.
So I found the place where I wanted to mount the fan controller and due to the LED's being bright I didn't want them on the front of the cooler stand, it was also just a tab too long to fit there with the bottom fan being in the spot it is. So I decided to place it on the left side of the stand once it is flipped over facing away from me.
I went ahead and grabbed my double sided Velcro and measure the proper length and then cut two pieces to fit. This stuff it strong and can take the paint off of the walls after it has been in place for a while so I knew it would hold these in place while flipped upside down. As you can see, it fits like a charm!
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One of the sad things about the laptop I have (in my opinion anyways), is the lack of USB ports that are on it. Three is just not enough these days to have everything plugged in, Mouse, Keyboard, Controller, Sound Equipment, External Hard Drive, etc. So I was like, there is enough room on the other side of this laptop cooler to have a USB 3.0 HUB installed on it expanding my available USB Ports by 8! So, I used the same method as the Fan Controller to install the USB HUB.
It took a little bit of time to route all the cables where they needed to go but that's just part of the process and didn't really involve a write up on it. Once everything was setup, this is how it looked from the top.
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Thank you XiCynx , and please keep us appraised of how your mod is going, I'm interested in doing this one and really wondering about which parts to order...
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Thanks! I will definitely be sure to do so. I'm not sure if an @Administrator removed my reserved posts or not but it's kind of inconvenient to not be able to keep all the updates together and instead have the spread out through the talk if some eventually arise. Definitely seems like certain parts of the forums are much more active than others. If an Administrator reads this, is there a way for me to have 3-4 more reserved posts below my last update for future information?
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Good job! Can you please update us on what you eventually achieved in temperature drop?
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I'm interested in doing a similar build, but with two 120mm Noctua fans. My P775 has pretty good thermals as is, so my goal is to get a bit more air flowing over the heatsink and out the exhaust, while keeping noise levels reasonably low. Right now I'm debating whether it's worth going with the 3000RPM Noctuas that you use. I've watched some youtube reviews and, at full chatter, I believe those are too loud for normal computer use (i.e. not benchmarking). Apart from that, the 2000RPM F12s have a minimum speed of 450 RPM compared to the 750 RPM of the faster model, which would make them much more tolerable for quiet use.
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How about cosrair ML 120 pro ?
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but hey, after Mr.Fox Papusan Kosti and Xcinx and other dudes I did not remember, here my mod (Mainly sitted by Tornado F5)
At 1200RPM on the external fans and 1600RPM in the central one is quiet and more effective then nothing(lowering about 4/6°)
but I'm looking to change these fans for more silent one soon.
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I live in Europe so the parts list is slightly different:
* Fan Controller - Lamptron FC6
* 3xPhobya 3pin Extension sleveed cables
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I wouldnt touch it. The places you can see I put the color is needed for cooling aka fans. And the size on the cooler is too small. Forget it!!
See the fans placment on the mod U3
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All I see is a reminder of why I dont like Glossy screens
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Can anyone recommend efficient replacements for standard fans from CM notepal u3 plus? I mean power supply from usb.
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I am doing this. I think Corsair Maglev fans would work great.
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What fan controller are you using?
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I would like to carry out this mod but I'm a complete rookie. Can anyone give me parts list from Amazon UK? I have tried searching the parts used here but had no luck
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COME ONE, COME ALL! I have just completed the guide for this laptop cooler mod as it was REALLY overdue. In the OP you will find 6 update spoilers with images and description of what I did and why I did it, hope you enjoy!
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Thanks so much for great and detailed modding guide!
I've used three different laptop coolers for my Alienware 17 R5, but I wasn't satisfied with any of them. Using your guide for ideas, I plan on modding a Cooler Master Notepal U3 Plus with some 140mmx140mmx25mm Noctua NF-A14 5V fans. Since they're 5V fans which can be run off of USB bus power, I wouldn't need a separate power adapter and I might be able to connect the fans to the laptop cooler's fan speed controls.
Do you think there is enough room in the laptop cooler for four of these fans?
Thanks,
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So i gathered the photos which can be seen here:
https://imgur.com/a/nfaYsp3
And the parts i bought are these ones:
Notepal U3 Plus (was bought initially for the purpose of using its 3 fans but the fans stopped working, no idea why):
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Maste...ds=notepal+u3&qid=1550544618&s=gateway&sr=8-1
3 12mm fans from Arctic (F12 model):
https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-F12-S...&pf_rd_p=0de5e958-9f37-542f-8377-6c59647ae3fa
Important here: the PWM fans were these ones, because their speed can be regulated with this acessory, unlike the common cheaper fans which only run with a specific rotation!!!
PC Computer Fans, Independent Turn Knob Control:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DP9WRZY/
The power adapter from 230V to 12V:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MGG6SC
But did purchase a power cable for Europe (i live in Portugal)
The grills i bought for the fans so that they wouldn't scratch my table or do any sort of extra vibration:
https://www.amazon.com/okgear-120mm...005VRK5YS/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_lp_tr_img_2?_encodi
One of the things i did purchase but didnt gave any use were these filters:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ARB5E8U
But the Notepal U3 being on top of the grills... i ended up taking the filters out, since they are a bit cheap in quality and ended up touching the fans and making lots of noise and random vibrations all over!
to get it all mounted, the fans from arctic bring loads of screws that fit the holes of the Notepal U3 perfectly, so all you have to do is screw the fans to the notepal u3 base and thats it!
And for the knob controler, is plug and play to the fans directly... it comes with 4 cables for 4 fans and each fan speed is controled independently from each other!
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I forgot to add: That power adapter uses this type of power cable to connect to the wall:
https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matter...ower+cable+pc&qid=1550702584&s=gateway&sr=8-7
Just re-read what i posted and realized that i missed a little piece
This type of cable is cheap enought to be bought localy, either in Europe or in the US!
In Europe (Portugal in my case), costs around 3 or 4 euros maximum in a big hardware storeMr. Fox, Fire Tiger and Papusan like this. -
So I decided to try this out. I went with two NF-A14 5v ( https://noctua.at/en/products/fan/nf-a14-5v-pwm)
along with a NF-FC1 ( https://noctua.at/en/na-fc1) fan controller. The 5v version seems to be exactly the same CFM as the 12v, and their power usage seems to be low enough so that they can be powered using a USB port. I was going to go with the NF-A12x15 5v, but they were like $40 each; at 3 fans, that's waaaay too expensive. One of the reasons I used the 5v version was because I was gonna try going from 3/4 pin -> DC -> USB C to power everything, given that USB C can supply more power than USB A, but the power usage on these fans are low enough that I don't have to do all that. I might even attach a USB C hub on the side.
While my laptop is idle, the fans drops the temps by 5-7 degrees. I haven't tried a heavier load yet but it looks promising. At max, the fans are pretty quiet too.
Now with that all being said and done, the fans are a little too quiet at max. I was thinking I might be super annoyed by the noise, but that isn't the case; I definitely deal with more noise, so I can also try out higher CFM fans. As far a 5v fans goes, these seem to be the best. I have a 3/4 pin to DC and then a 12v@3A power adapter I can also use. The trade off of course being that I sacrifice an outlet instead of an USB port, but I think it's worth trying at least.
I'm thinking of getting the NF-A14 industrialppc ( https://noctua.at/en/nf-a14-industrialppc-3000-pwm), which I'll run 2 of. But there's also the NF-A12 industrialppc (https://noctua.at/en/nf-f12-industrialppc-3000-pwm) that I can run 3 of. Which would be a better option?joluke likes this. -
Just a small update on what ended up with, just in case any else decides to attempt this:
https://imgur.com/a/Rm7zrdO
The first two images are of the NF-A14 5v I was originally using. They were convenient since they could be powered by USB, but having only an airflow of 82 CFM and static pressure of 2.08 mm/H₂O, I was craving something with a little stronger. So I swapped to the NF-A14 ippc, and boy is it powerful, at 158 CFM and 10.52 mm/H₂O. It is noisy if turned up all the way, but thanks to the fan controller, I only turn it up to max during benchmarks.
I didn't find it necessary to control the speed of each individual fan, so the NF-FC1 was perfect due to petite size. To mount it, I got some Velcro and a corner brace, usually for furniture but in this case a perfect fit. On the other side, I Velcro'd a usb hub I had laying around. The hub is actually the perfect size to fit into the space above the leg, but I couldn't get the Velcro or any other adhesive to stick to the grippy part. So I moved it further down. Since the USB hub is externally powered, I split the power between it and the fans, so that I only need to use a single 12W @ 6A adapter.
For better airflow, I decided to prop everything up using the handles that OP has in their build. Initially I wasn't thinking of cutting holes, but after testing and finding that the airflow was much better without anything in the way, I took a rotary tool and made the cuts. I'm not really good with that sort of thing so it took a while and isn't the cleanest cut, but hey, it works.
And then finally, I got some fan filters. They worked well but wasn't really happy with the reduction in airflow after installing them. So no fan filters.
All in all, pretty happy with the outcome albeit the cost was a little pricier than expected. Still, beats anything I can find on Amazon! I think what I might do next is try and find a spare back cover for my laptop somewhere online, and then enlarge the grille area. But that's for much later. -
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I also needed an adapter for the USB hub because it wasn't the right size:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-Power-P...400198?hash=item3af7cb5186:g:D-oAAOSw8DJaD~YLjoluke likes this. -
I am thinking of getting this but I will like to use it at 0 degrees instead of the default elevation, and therefore am going to make/buy some legs to prop up the front of the pad. How high is that back "leg" exactly?
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So I had a few laptops and coolers before...and it was a joke really...only thing they are good for is elevating the laptop so it can breathe. Thats OK. Few degrees probably.
So Im into upgrading this AW17 and THE thing I wanted sorted out 1st was cooler.
So i got:
** 2 x 140mm Noctua NF-A14 Industrial PPC PWM 3000RPM High Performance Fan 78,36 USD
** Noctua NA-FC1 Lüftersteuerung / fan controller + Noctua 16x NA-SAV4 Anti-Vibration Mounts + 12V 18W 1.5A Adapter 40,85 USD
** Cooler Master U3 OFC 42 USD
TOtal spent: 161,21 USD.
(btw. Noctua - what a company! I bow down to everything you do!!!)
Mind u, these are Croatian prices off ebay, yes, we r EU, no, we r not normal.
I went for 2*140mm coz it seemed to me it would fit the AW17s grills better, maybe I'm wrong but there u have it.
Cutting the holes was bit of a PITA, just make sure you wash the damn thing and make the edges smooth.
Fitting was not just perfect but its OK I guess, those holes are all right mostly.
I use the keyboard so I wanted the front end to be low, that made me lose the rubber mounts on the low side so it didn't touch the table.
I used superglue to fit the controller, it seems solid and the position is natural for me to joggle rpm.
I was concerned with the noise and vibrations but there is NO vibrations and the noise is low. Except for the full throttle, but still, no biggie.
Very pleased.
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Hi all!
Here's an update after using this contraption for few days...
I don't know of, or haven't seen any mention viewing all u3 mod posts about correct placement of the laptop on the fans. As I said earlier, I've got two 140mm fans, and opted for that coz it looked good covering the grill area almost fully. I can see most of you use three fans and the placement is more to the upper side. Anyhow, I drilled u3 as I did and put it to use.
Temps dropped - obviously.
I don't do benches so I prefer to look at temp behaviour in a game I play.
So what was once like 74c became 66 on average. I look at mostly flat area of the temp graph in HWinfo. Peaks of few degrees on top of that can happen but that's for a brief moment and I don't count that.
Ambient temp is 22. I have stock heatsinks and Kryonaut paste on cpu/gpu applied recently.
My AMD card still has 5yo stock thermal pads which are a disaster, dirty, misplaced and whatnot.
Cpu fan is aftermarket turbo fan 10,x cfm (or so the seller said but I wouldnt bet on it) and GPu is stock, 1,x cfm crap. To top the crap, they are (still) controled by Dell ECand we all know how good that is.
Now, to the point...what I have noticed while fiddling about running fans in given constelation (Watch your fingers coz these babies CAN saw your arm off!!!) was that the airflow was much stronger at the center to down part than at the top third. So I moved the laptop down as can be seen in the picture.
And whadya know - those temps went DOWN too!
I mean, CPU in the game is like idle temps before, 48c!??
GPU - flat 60c!
I suppose the two fans next to each other create like a rogue wave of airflow in the center making it real powerfull.
OH, wait for it! - this all happens at some 75% Noctua fans rpm!
3000 is loud, not insane loud as I thought it would be but one would want to have headphones on.
This is good for everybody using laptop keyboard coz its more down, closer.
Then again, if you have your fan tuners in that part its not.
So thats it from me, Ill get back when I change Gpu fan, do pwm wire cut mod, change thermal pads and....GOd knows!Last edited: Oct 31, 2019Fire Tiger and MagicMike like this. -
Good idea 3 of Noctua NF-12 fan .
With my NotePal U2 using 3 fan Thermaltake 120mm and work pretty good.
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Thermaltake rgb fan 120mm...
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Hi,
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thermaltake-Riing-Plus-RGB-Controller/dp/B07HS7226Z
Thermaltake Ring Plus RGB Controller is a 3 port LED hub that offers direct fan speed/light mode/colour mode/light speed ...
Thanks
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Thank you..
Working fine on my Tornado F5...
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12v Dc fan pwm with thermal sensor...
Or connecting directly 12v , but pwm don't work....
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EDIT...I have just come to realize..I did that post the other day and possibly got it all wrong!
The fans do give more powerful airflow on one side but it also means that I have to rearrange them, turn 180deg and have the same effect as described. Downside is that the fan cables would be on the upper side of the rig and I cant say just yet how will they be arranged. And I have to pull out the silicone mountings and those tend to break if not too careful.
Anyhow, I've got lot of other stuff on my mind apparently so it did not dawn on me until now.
EDIT: Well, live and learn
I was apparently overexcited with the thing.
Its all about the cooling pad angle, if its angled with the bottom sitting on the table it makes a difference in the airflow obviously.
You can lift that part and while it makes the thing less noisy and has better airflow you kind of lose comfort of the keyboard. So I'm gonna use this setup, pull the laptop down like shown.Last edited: Nov 10, 2019 -
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Get silicone mountings!
Those plastic clips will transfer more vibrations
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Yes like this.. and fan filter ..
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That post is mine and you have some photos there and the parts that I bought.
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Modding My Cooler Master NotePal U3 PLUS
Discussion in 'Accessories' started by XiCynx, Oct 7, 2017.