Need help with gaming mice

Hi guys,

I'm currently trying to find a new gaming mouse for my laptop. I previously had the logitech G5 for about 2 years, but the scroll wheel now has weird issues. I used it a lot for CAD work and tha scroll wheel is used to zoom and rotate the object so I had to have it clicked about 50% of the time. That being said, it can't really be clicked anymore and it's starting to make the whole mouse bug.

I want to find a gaming mouse with maybe a few more buttons because I like remapping commands to my mouse. Wireless is not important for me, but if there's an option that has both I might consider it.

I've been looking at the logitech g700 lately. I'll probably go to a store just to see how it feels in my hand and all.

What do you guys think? What would you suggest?

 

Never owned the G700 myself, but it's definitely highly recommended. If you really need overkill on buttons, the Razer Naga comes in a wired model and has 12 thumb buttons, in addition to the usual left and right click and clickable wheel.

 

Yeah, the naga is the other one I was looking at but I think it's a little too overkill on the buttons. I'll probably go to best buy or something just to see how they feel in my hand and pick one after.

 

This is personal preference. But I would make sure you try out the razer naga somewhere. I hate it more than any mouse in the world.

The logitech 700 is a good mouse. I have a logitech G9x, and it's my favorite mouse I've had. Not sure if you're looking for more buttons.

 

Yeah, the G9 looks nice, but I really like the extra buttons on the g700. Let's just hope it feels good when I'll try it out. The buttons seem to have a pretty weird shape so it can either be really great or really uncomfortable... we'll see then I guess.

Edit: Has anyone ever tried the CM Storm inferno? How does this one compare to the g700?

Edit 2: I'd like to hear what you guys think of the corsair's also. The m60 looks nice, but it doesn't have enough butonns for me. The m90 looks a little intense on the thumb side, but maybe someone who owns it could say how it feels. There's also the RAT 7 which I was intereste in for a while, but the build quality seems a little low and all the bad reviews changed my mind.

 

I am biased towards Logitech mice. It's not that I haven't tried other mice but I just can't find anything that fit's my hand as well as the typical Logitech design. I tried the G9X and while it performed well, it just didn't feel right. That being said, I have owned the G700 for about 3 months now and it is the best mouse I've ever owned. I've owned about 7 mice in the last 10 years so that says a lot. The mouse tracks flawlessly and every button has a very nice tactile feel. The USB cable not only charges it but it also is capable of transferring data so the mouse can be used in wired mode while it's charging. When it comes to the USB dongle, nobody has a better design than Logitech's unifying receiver. It is tiny enough that it can remain plugged in while transporting without the fear of it snapping off.

All in all, it's a great mouse. You owe it to yourself to at least try it out. If you liked the way prior Logitech mice felt, there is no reason whatsoever the G700 won't feel comfortable to you.

 

Razer DeathAdder.

 

Yeah well I really like the feel of my G5, but I thought it lacked a few buttons and well I didn't really like the scroll wheel (It broke really quickly). Is the scroll wheel on the G700 solid? Does it feel more sturdy?

 

It is extremely solid. The scroll wheel feels exactly the same as my MX Performance. There is also a button you can press to make the scroll wheel either free spinning or one click at a time. Free spinning is a must have for web browsing and clicky scrolling is a must for gaming. You can tell just from using the scroll wheel on the G700 that it will last as long as you need it to.

 

Thanks for your reply. I'll go check it out next time I'm near an electronic store.

 

I have a the corsair 60 mouse for playing battlefield. I like it a lot. However you won't like the lack of buttons. And the sniper button cannot be bound to something else other than a dpi drop.

The Corsair with all the buttons bugs me much like the razer naga. BUt like i said this is personally preference. I hate having all those buttons on the side of the mouse. I just find it irritating.

 

Yeah I know what you mean. I don't want 12 buttons like some razers. I think 4 like the g700 is perfect.

 

Sorry for reviving a dead thread but i didn't want to create a new thread for a simple question.

I'm currently in the process of purchasing a Logitech Performance M950 mouse to replace my Logitech MX518 but it's rather pricey here in New Zealand. The cheapest one i can find is $93. I would order from the U.S but with shipping and currency conversion it would be the same price and not worth it.

I can purchase a used good condition M950 mouse for $60. Though the only problem is it only comes with the mouse and the unifying receiver. I asked about the charging cable and the seller said they will throw in the cable they use for their phone. I thought this was kinda weird but for the price it seems pretty good.

I was just asking if i should just get the $60 one or just buy a brand new one. Thanks.

 

The M950 (aka Performance Mouse MX in the US) isn't really a gaming mouse. Consider the G700 instead. It's a bit more money but far better suited for gaming than the 950.

 

I had the MX Performance prior to my current G700 and it was a great mouse. The button where your thumb rests has got to be the BEST placed button of all time. The mouse also tracks like a champ.

When it comes to him throwing in a "phone charger" micro USB cable. That is fine. Just make sure he knows that the micro USB cable needs to be able to transfer data and not just charge. If it's only a charging cable, you will not be able to use the mouse while charging it.

 

G700 has 13 buttons

 

I think he's talking about the buttons which are stacked/jumbled together on the side. I don't think he's referring to the buttons built into the scroll wheel or the right/left click buttons. If you really want to get technical, the G700 has 14 buttons.

 

The G700 looks like it has a similar build to the G300 and i really disliked the feel of the G300 and wow it has a lot of buttons i will never use and will probably just annoy me.

I'm still gonna keep my MX518 mouse when i do need the extra DPI. But the M950 will be primarily used when i take the mouse for school because the wires are really annoying to tuck away. The size doesn't matter.

Even though the M950 isn't a gaming mouse, does it really matter? I won't be playing a big resolution. Just a 720p screen at 1366 x 768

 

Nope, doesn't matter at all. I gamed a lot with my MX Performance. I saw no difference between it, a Razer Mamba and now my G700. In fact, the only reason why I went to the G700 is because of the extra buttons. The MX Performance performed fine. It's a damn good mouse that is probably the most comfortable mouse I've ever used.

 

Hahaha thank you. I've seen many comments like this which is the thing that persuaded me to go with the MX M950 mouse

 

If you're willing to go wired, it is probably a better idea to buy a wired mouse then. They are cheaper, no messing around with batteries and typically have more bugs (e.g. Mamba sensor seems unreliable, G700 has some small tracking problem, ...) they do not track equally well on all surfaces (in fact in some cases they are rather poor; Logitech G7 I use at work is unusable on Razer Megasoma) and I've read online that they might get problematic if you use metal mouse pads.

I definitely recommend that if you can test in the store, you should absolutely go for it. I use Razer Deathadder since I don't like smaller mice and use a palm grip. Further I used Mamba previously and I knew that it will fit great in my hand and the way I hold it. Also, from what I've read the non-laser sensors typically track much better. If you have time to read up on mice and do some research, here's a link I found most valuable:

The Truthful Mouse Guide [overclock.net]

 

Sorry but the only advantage wired mice have over wireless nowadays is that they are cheaper. I've been using wireless mice for the past 5 years and the only one I've ever had tracking issues with was the Razer Mamba.

You make it sound like wired mice have different sensors than wireless mice. If they are both using the same sensor then they are both going to have tracking issues.

In regards to the G700, I haven't seen anyone hear complain about tracking issues. I've been using it for 3 months and not once have I had tracking issues. In regards to it's sensor technology, it uses arguably the most advanced sensor available today (Avago ADNS-S9500). A couple other mice share this same sensor as well and none of those have had wide spread tracking issues either. Yea, I'm sure you can find a couple people here and there saying they had some issues. I'm also sure there isn't a mouse in existence that hasn't given someone somewhere tracking issues. Again, just because a mouse is wired, doesn't mean it's going to have less issues when it comes to tracking.

Lastly, the MX Performance mouse that the OP is thinking about does not utilize normal Laser sensor technology. It utilizes a sensor that will track on far more surfaces than ANY OPTICAL sensor available. It will even track on glass. In fact, it tracks on glass perfectly. I used to use one. Never had a single tacking issue with it in the 2 years I used it.

There are many people including myself who just don't like using wired mice. I've tried but if I'm going to use a portable laptop, I don't feel like plugging a mouse in or having another wire drape over my coffee table or bed. I also feel as if my movement isn't as free. I can feel the weight of the cord, especially when gaming.

I understand you've had problems with your G7 but it utilizes a outdated Laser Sensor that was known for tracking issues.

 

Ok my M950 came in the mail and wow it's huge. I thought my MX518 was fairly big. I guess i just have small hands? It feels really good in the hand and i knew it was heavy but not this heavy. Overall it's a pretty good change. I just feel so free with the wireless technology and i haven't noticed a difference in sensitivity or response time. I sometimes forget I'm using a different mouse. I even played a few hours of Modern Warfare 3, and Team Fortress 2. Oh and the ability to scroll horizontally using the scroll wheel is amazing. Especially in Photoshop.

A few things that bug me and I'm not too sure if it's just me but the left click button isn't too sensitive. I have to give it a relatively firm click. Also using the scroll wheel as a button is really stiff. I have to use a lot of force to have it respond.

The mouse is great but the quirks about the mouse really dampens the experience. If the problems are isolated to me then i will return it.

 

It's been a couple months since I used this mouse but from what I remember, both the left and right click weren't stiff at all. They felt pretty much the same as every other mouse I've used. The middle click was stiff however but I think they do that on purpose because people were complaining about it wearing down and becoming to easy to press.

 

Yes, I am not saying that it is the consequence of them being wireless but having a different sensor. If they had the same, yes. But they don't have the same sensors.

Arguably by whom, NBR "pro" users? (rofl...) There's quite a big thread about G700 small tracking movement problems on Logitech forums. Apart from that, some people don't like the fact that sensor comes with a hardware acceleration feature. The problem being many people prefer not have the mouse acceleration.

We aren't talking about 1 in a million, but a much more common problem. And yes, believe it or not -- there are actually mice without inherent design problems.

Yes laser can track on glass. Luckily, most (all?) good mouse surfaces are actually not glass. Some of them are actually even metal -- that can sometimes interfere with wireless signal. On a good surface however, they are not overall as good as optical sensors (e.g. see the graph in the OCN thread I linked). It's easy to just troll right without providing something to backup claims (but then again this is NBR so nothing new). Doesn't using a glass surface instead of a decent mousepad kind of defeats the purpose of purchasing a high(er) end mouse?

It doesn't cause tracking issues on all surfaces. (Reread what I wrote.) It doesn't track well only on specific surfaces. It tracks perfectly fine on Razer Destructor. The way I have it setup I don't feel the weight of the cord on Deathadder. In fact, I would say it feels smoother (the mouse itself) than Mamba because it's lighter; they both have the same teflon feet. Then again, I don't game on a coffee table.

 

@unreal25.....Yes they do use the SAME EXACT sensors. You saying otherwise certainly questions your knowledge regarding Wired and Wireless mice.

Here is a list of almost every mouse made including their sensors over the past 3 years. I will just point out one example but as you can see, there are many.

The Logitech G500 (Wired Mouse) and Logitech G700 (Wireless Mouse) both use the Avago ADNS-S950.

Mouse Sensor Comparison