Oh no! Not another recommend me *insert product here* thread

Basically I'm looking for a gaming mouse. I've looked about but I can't find anything that instantly makes me go "I want that one". For a long time I was looking into getting a R.A.T. 7 but then I read about it having a fair amount of lag for about a second after you lift it up (I like to use slow tracking speeds so I lift my mouse quite a lot). I then looked at logitech (always a good fallback) and saw the g500, this looks pretty good except the sensor is in a stupid position and the thumb buttons are a fair way forward (known to be hard to reach). Although I don't really play MMO's, the thumb buttons would be a nice feature to have, should I need/want them. I also briefly looked at the g700, this would be my PERFECT mouse (moulded buttons for easy location, good number of them, comfortable grip, nicely styled and the fact that you can almost always rely on logitech to give you a solid product) were it not for the fact that it's wireless, the scroll wheel is a bit funy and that the sensor is in a silly place like the g500 (also costs quite a lot, but so does the R.A.T. 7 so that's rather a non issue at the moment). I've also breifly looked at things like Roccat kone [+], Razer, Steel series etc.

Basically here are my criteria:

-claw/fingertip grip style
-good max track speed for quick movements (my current mouse screws over and makes me stare at the ceiling when I try anything too drastic)
-preferably a reasonably amount of customisable buttons (aka g700), just not to the extent of the Razer naga
-reasonable DPI settings, 3200 would probably be fine (I'm not really interested in DPI settings of OVER9000! since I like to use low sensitivity anyway)
-preferably moulded, not ambidexterous
-wired, or at least has the capability to be wired or doesn't weigh a ton and has decent battery life/response times

I'm under the impression that there isn't going to be a direct match for what I specify, but given your experiences, what would you recommend?

 

i really like my logitech g9 though it doesnt have as many buttons as the g700
ive read some reviews that people dont like it, but the buttons are perfectly placed for me and its comfortable to use for long periods of time. (i would suggest trying some out in a store to see what is comfy for you)
the g9x is the new version
G9x Laser Mouse

 

It is just me or something but I went through three G9x's and every single one was a lemon in reliability. If you want a good Logitech gaming mouse, stick with the G500. If you want a good claw-grip mouse, I think the Razer Lachesis is not a bad choice. It is uncomfortable for a palm-grip, but it is really solid as a claw-grip. Also it has two side buttons on each side on top of the normal ones. Also if you want to get a Lachesis, stick with the 2nd generation ones as their sensors are much better than the 1st generation ones.

 

ive had my refurbished g9 for over a year with absolutely no issues, my bf as the same one, no issues there either. Not sure about the g9x though

 

Then maybe it is my damn, bad luck. I personally now use a Razer Deathadder 3.5G and it has given me a better experience than the G9x, mostly because I am a palm-gripper.

 

The g700 can be plugged in via a usb cable and used as if it were a wired mouse (and charge the battery too). It also has adjustable DPI settings up to 5700 and has a report rate of 1000 per second (even on wireless mode). Although the battery life is only about 2 days. I personally like the scroll wheel, what makes you say it is funny?

 

I'll throw in a vote for the DeathAdder. It's got a 3,500 DPI optical sensor, and optical sensors are generally known for having higher perfect control speeds than lasers. I know it's hardly relevant, but a study published in 2007 or 2008 found that the original DeathAdder's 1,800 DPI optical sensor had significantly higher control speed than any other gaming mouse on the market, most of which were lasers. There hasn't been such an in-depth study with the new DeathAdder, but I can vouch for its tracking being spot-on at low sensitivity and high movement speed.

As for the shape, it fits perfectly in your hand, perfect for a palm grip, but you can comfortably claw it as well. If there's a Best Buy near you, the DeathAdder is often one of the mice they have on display if you want to get a feel for it. It's got 5 programmable buttons (left + right click, scroll wheel, two thumb buttons), and they're all placed well for easy clicking.

It's comparatively cheap, at least by Razer standards, at $45 on Amazon.

 

I'd recommend the g9x, g9 or Alienware Tactx (g9 variation).
They pretty much meet your requirements. The g9x is probably the best pick as it is completely customizable with a higher dpi sensor (5600dpi) and a better scroll wheel, albiet the scroll wheel on the g9/tactx is harder to press but you get use to it.

 

For this forum? Your topic should read "Oh, sweet! Another recommend me *insert product here* thread"

As for mice, it sounds like the closest match for you is the Logitech G9x. It's got:

• Great imaging sensor, and great imaging tracking.
• Great software, with lots of customizable buttons in areas that make sense.
• Molded for right-hand users.
• Customizable weight / feel - swappable grips, adjustable weight system.
• Toggle between free-spin wheel motion or click detente wheel motion.
• Wired mouse. Plenty of performance (high DPI, up to 1000Hz USB polling rate)
• The size / shape makes it sit between the claw-grip or palm-grip fashion.

I have used some of the other mice that you have listed, and wanted to share my thoughts in case you were interested:

Mad Catz Cyborg R.A.T. 7:

• Currently using it as the mouse for my desktop gaming rig
• Bought it because several review sources whose opinion I respect (MaximumPC, PCGamer, etc) rated the mouse as the best mouse they have ever used.
• The mouse is the most comfortable mouse I have ever used, because of the customizability of the shape / grip
• Mice button motions all feel solid, clicky, very intuitive.
• Sniper button is awesome. It sits under your thumb, and reduces the mouse DPI (to a configurable value) when you hold it down. Release the button, and DPI goes back to its original value.
• Software is kind of crappy. Not as configurable or intuitive as Logitech SetPoint software.
• Imaging sensor is sub-par. It is picky on what surfaces you mouse on (forced to use a cloth-surface mouse pad, versus my bare desk surface).
• I like the mouse, but wouldn't buy another one or recommend it to others.

Logitech G5:

• Bought multiple of these, and used them for every computer I had for several years
• Very comfortable mouse. Classic Logitech design.
• Adjustable weight system is nice.
• Awesome performance for both imaging and USB polling rates.
• Great software - lots of options, very intuitive.
• Fewer buttons than I would like - only 1 thumb button (newer Logitech G5 and G500's do not have this problem).
• Middle mouse-wheel button is pretty mushy. Very easy to accidentally scroll while pushing it down
• I love this mouse, would buy another, and would recommend it to others (as long as you buy a newer Logitech G500 model)

Logitech G700:

• Bought one of these for dual-use on my work laptop and gaming laptop (I carry both laptops with me on business trips).
• Pretty comfortable. Wasn't a huge fan of the plastic texture, but it was acceptable.
• Lots of buttons - almost too many for me, but its a nice option for those who like those.
• Great software - lots of options, very intuitive. Profiles are saved to the G700's onboard memory.
• Awesome performance, especially for a wireless mouse. High DPI, high USB polling rate.
• Usable at full performance in both wired and wireless mode. Wired mode both charges the mouse and carries data.
• Short battery life - about 3 days of life on high USB polling rate settings. This was a pain in the butt.
• USB data / recharge cable was stiff. Makes the mouse a little inconvenient to use in wired mode.
• I liked this mouse. I personally would not buy another (constant need to recharge was a pain in the butt for me), but would definitely recommend this mouse to anyone looking for a wireless gaming mouse.

 

the g9x is on sale at newegg right now
Newegg.com - Logitech G9x Black Two modes scroll USB Wired Laser 5700 dpi Gaming Mouse

 

Damnit. I have too many mice already.

In the past month, I sold a Logitech G700, bought a Cyborg R.A.T.7, bought 2x Logitech Marathon mice. I still own 3x Logitech G5 mice, and 2x Logitech Performance MX mice.

And this Logitech G9X is pretty tempting. It's a shame I can only use one mouse at a time.

 

lol!
How is the R.A.T.7?

 

It's ok. I bought it because several reputable review sources (MaximumPC, PCGamer) said it was the best mouse they ever touched.

It is very comfortable. By far, the most comfortbale mouse I have ever used. Great button motion too... and the moddle mouse wheel depresses well, unlike the Logitech G500. Has nice adjustable weights, solid construction. Best part about it is the sniper button on the thumbrest, whoch temporarily drops the dpi to a configurable level as long as that sniper button is depressed.

However, it has a sub-par imaging sensor. I had to use it on a mousepad, rather than my bare desk surface. The sensors on high end Logitech mice are far better. The software is kind of ceappy both in terms of the interface and the level of configurability.

I give it a 7/10. I'll keep it, but wpuld not buy it again or recommend it to others. If I were to buy another mouse now, it would probably be a Logitech G500. I loved the G5 (predecessor to the Logitech G500) so much (despite its flaws), that I bought 3 of them over the years and put them everywhere I would possibly need a mouse.

The Logitech G5 /G500 is the bacon of computer mice.

 

Sorry I haven't reiplied in a while. Your help has is much appreciated. To cut a long story short, I had windows induced delays.

I'm kinda tempted by either a G9x or G500 now, although the deathadder seems to be a pretty decent mouse too.

 

Honestly, out of those 3, get the Logitech G500.

You mentioned that you really like the shape/feel of the Logitech G700. The Logitech G500 is much closer to that molded hand shape / grip than the Logitech G9x (which is smaller). The Logitech G500 actually has the same sensor as the Logitech G9x, so there is no performance difference between the two - just size / shape (of which I believe you'd be happier with the Logitech G500). And the Razer Deathadder is an ambi-dexterous mouse, and not a right-hand molded mouse like Logitech mice.

On top of that, the Logitech G500 meets every single one of your criteria you listed in your first post, and is reasonably priced.

I really envy you, because there is a product there that actually meets all of your needs for a mouse. I've been looking for a notebook mouse myself over the past few weeks, but haven't been able to find anything that matches everything that I want.

 

wat.

Spoiler

Hell, they even make a left-hand version.

Spoiler

 

... am I missing something? That looks like the same mouse to me.

 

the bottons are on opposite sides and the curves also.

 

Hrm. Very subtle. I must have missed that.

Thanks for pointing that out.