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    Paper Jams while double sided printing with Samsung ML-1610 Laserprinter

    Discussion in 'Accessories' started by Phil, May 12, 2010.

  1. Phil

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    My Samsung ML-1610 doesn't have double sided printing so I am doing it manually. First I print the odd pages in reverse order, then I flip over the paper, put it back in for the even pages.

    But on the second run I get paper jams all the time.

    Is this normal? I thought maybe I should wait for the prints to be completely dry.

    Or should I try new paper?
     
  2. Rodster

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    New paper ! :)

    I remember being introduced to laser printers i.e servicing them back with the very first Xerox office laser printer and then the desktop HP LaserJet back in the 80's. The problem with certain types of paper is that they dry out too much with heat and lose their curl so they have a tendency of jamming.

    Another thing we were told by Xerox that i still remember to this day is, fan the paper before you put them in the printer. When paper is cut it produces burrs so they have a tendency of sticking to one another and therefore can jam because movement in a laser printer is critical with all the censors. Paper has to be at a certain point in travel or the laser printer stops...ergo JAM !

    You'd be surprised what issues mediocre paper can cause. when dealing with laser printers I always use a good brand paper that's specifically for the type of printing you plan on doing. Multiprinting paper is not as good as paper for laser printers because laser printer paper has certain types of oils to help withstand the heat.

    One final thing about paper. If you look at the label outside the ream of paper there should be an arrow usually facing up. That's the curl I spoke about earlier and should be facing up on your first print. In fact if you grab a wad of paper and hold it straight down and shake it front to back you'll notice the curl and it should slightly curl upwards. That's the natural curl of the paper that goes with the direction of the arrow on the label.
     
  3. Phil

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    Interesting stuff.

    So now I'm using Navigator Universal Multifunctional 80 g.m2 A4.

    I'll try to see if my local shops has something specifically for laser printers.

    Edit: just went to the local shop. Doesn't seem like they have paper specifically for laser printers. They did have paper for color laser printers but that was too expensive.
     
  4. Vogelbung

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    There's also chalky copy paper which can cause rubber rollers to become slick and start being unable to feed paper properly.
     
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    Ah yes how could I forget about that. :)

    We had a chemical that we used back then called Fedron which was perfect for revitalizing the rubber without drying it out. Fedron was eventually banned. :rolleyes:

    Phil try and find something like this:

    Amazon.com: Hammermill Laser Print Paper - 8 1/2'' x 11'' Letter Size - White - 24# - 98 Brightness - 500 sheet Ream: Office Products

    Amazon.com: Xerox Premium Laser Copy Paper, 98 Brightness, 24 lb, 8-1/2 x 11, White, 500 Sheets per Ream (3R13038): Electronics

    Amazon.com: Xerox Business 4200 Paper, 92 bright, 20 lb., Bond 8.5 Inch x 14 Inch (3R2051): Electronics Technical Details * Guaranteed 99.9% jam-free.
     
  6. Phil

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    I think this may be the problem. The paper starts moving into the printer for 2 inches and then stops.

    hope it helps. the paper I'm using now is also 99,9 % guaranteed jam-free.

    any alternatives? revitalizing the rubber sounds like what I need.
     
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    Thanks for your help Rodknee. I'm not in the US, but I might find something similar here.

    I have just found a workaround for the problem. If I only put in 20 pieces of paper (printed front side yesterday), the printing goes fine.

    With about 50 pages it gets messy.
     
  9. Rodster

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    No problem :cool:

    One last thing about cheap paper is that they tend to produce more paper dust that comes off on the rubber rollers. When I used to work on Office Equipment, those customer's that listened and used better quality paper they tended to avoid printer feed problems.
     
  10. Phil

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    But my local shop is saying the Navigator paper is better quality. Are they right?
     
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    I don't know it could be. Here in the US, Hammerhill, Xerox, Mead is considered quality paper. If they say it generates low dust debris then I would say yes. As was mentioned earlier Phil your rollers have an accumulation of dust buildup on the rollers and less quality paper has a tendency of accelerating that when used.

    I remember when we tried to convince our City Gov't account who I was assigned to service their office equipment to switch from recycled paper to Xerox, Hammerhill or Mead just for the very same reason. You can guess they said no. Luckily I carried a bottle of Fedron with me.
     
  12. nathanielian

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    I think your printer is not supporting the double printing on the paper.