Razer Lachesis or Deathadder?

page 2, remembering what you say is important

 

There sorry, I had said it, but after nemoris.

 

And not being a troll is important as well.

Thanks. The point I was trying to make was that not buying a mouse based purely on its age, as SACH7002 had mentioned, is foolish. Making a purchase decision based on feature set, ergonomics, cost, etc. is a much more useful rubric to go off on, regardless of the age of the mouse.

 

I have had the Logitech G5 for about 4 years, up until about 3 months ago when I got my self a deathadder, My G5 didn't broke or anything I was just tired of the Battle field skin,
One of the things that I really like compared to the G5 are:
1. The clicking is way faster, meaning you can click faster than I could in the G5, very useful in gaming.
2. Aiming is more accurate.
3. It looks awesome.

Comfort wise. I really can't say they both feel good.

I was about to get the Lachesis, but I saw more negative comments compared to the Deathadder, I'm happy with my purchase.

 

I've been using a DeathAdder for more than a year...what you're saying is complete bollocks. Mine is still in great shape, and it's comfortable as hell.

 

I was split between the lachesis and the Microsoft / Razer Habu. I ultimately chose the Habu because for day to day use, it's more practical. I don't play mouse-based games much (I'm a race fan), but I do enjoy playing from time to time shoot em up games, and to be able to choose between precision or moving large distances at once with a reasonable amount of control is a beautiful thing. Also, the ambidextrous tendencies of the Lachesis makes it a bit awkward for someone who's a claw-style mouse user.... Gah I miss my old Apple Mac 128k and it's old-fashioned mouse....

Jason

 

ummm its 2009...im not sure about you but when i buy stuff, i buy new things..my dad just bought a new C350 2010...not 2009. there wasnt much difference but everyone wants newer tech. its how life goes. its 2009 and im willing to spend a considerable amount of money on a mouse. why should i stick with something that was GOOD in its old days, the G5? + lights always makes something more appealing. every heard of aesthetically pleasing??? it does matter for some. in a scale of 1-10 G9 prolly gets around 3s (maybe 7-8 with palm grip) while a Deathadder/mamba would be a 9 and the roccat kone being a 10 (gotta love it, fiber optic siderail lights ftw!!).

and now to your point...G5 is good, but still the fact is its old. this is exactly the problem thats happening now. G500 just came out. i now have an old mouse while there is a new/better version out. it was inevitable to happen. so now i stand here with a g5 in my hand but i really want a G500...now what? at least with the mamba i have peace in my mind that i prolly will have the best mouse available (not pricewise) for a couple of years (maybe, who knows what razer/logitech gonna come up with...1000hr battery life anyone??).

and i think by overwhelming majority of ppl on the internet including profesional reviews (dont tell me to source it, just google it), DA is a keeper in my book.

 

You can't use the wireless without the dongle?!

Can someone clear this up for me

Could I just leave the dongle at home for charging and use it wireless everywhere else?

Sorry for the confusion.

 

What, because you allege that your Deathadder hasn't had any problems, that nobody else experienced any? That because you think your Deathadder is comfortable "as hell" that no one else thinks otherwise? Good Lord, get a grip dude...

 

ok take a look at this this. just above the the mouse is the black charger. Its the wireless dongle as well. the dongle connects via the cable to the left of it. the cable plugs into ur computer and makes the dongle/charger sync wirelessly with the mouse. When you want to use it wired, just unplug the cable from the dock and plug it into the front of your mouse.

The simple answer is no, if you dont want the dongle thing, i really suggest the Razer Orochi which uses "gaming optimized bluetooth 2.0". Altho if you want full gaming performance you will need to plug it in and make it a wired mouse.

 

The opposite is also true. You think that because your DeathAdder had issues, nobody else has a good one that works perfectly?

For the record, the Microsoft Habu is made by Razer, and is essentially a slightly altered Razer DeathAdder; the only differences are two extra buttons on the Habu and a few cosmetic differences, like locations of lighting and stuff.

 

The DeathAdder has an infrared sensor, the Habu has a laser sensor like the Lachesis and Mamba. The habu kinda looks and functions like the offspring of a Lachesis and an intellimouse 3.0.

 

Well, that's not what you said, is it?

"...what is really tacky is that after a few months of use, their black finish wears off, exposing the light through the clear plastic shell."

Maybe YOU need to get a grip, since you're the one posting in a thread that asks a very specific question seemingly only to bash a freaking mouse brand and the people that use them.

Good night.

 

I owned a Lachesis, not a Deathadder.

Oh my, looks like I just got served. You know, you're right. People don't have a right to know what's beyond the Razer FTWBBQ mouse. Because when people want an ergonomic mouse, they'll go straight to Razer without regard of other, more ergonomic mice options (which there are a slew of).

Of course, this has no bearing on the thread whatsoever, because it's very obvious that the OP wasn't looking for an ergonomically designed mouse in the first place.

Oh, wait. He did. Boy, do I feel like a dope.

 

Thanks that clears it up very well. Looks like the mamba is out

 

Deathadder is a decent mouse, i used it a while ago. Ive had Lachesis for a year now, mainly because it has lots of macro buttons which i really need.

I occasionally play CSS and i use a palm grip, quite happy with it. Lachesis either fits your style or it doesnt.

The Microsoft intellimouse v2 is a good entry level mouse too.

 

I used the Deathadder for the longest time but recently switched to one of these. I got tired of how with ergonomic mice your wrist tilts to the side. With ambidextrous mice, your wrist and fingers stay level just like when you're playing a piano. Plus, I find this mouse funner to use if that makes any sense.

 

Oh and if I had to choose between a DA or Lachesis I would choose DA. The shape just melts into your hand and the tracking is glassy smooth. The Lachesis appears to have issues with its tracking engine judging by customer reviews.

 

yea srry about the DA maybe a revision of it wont have such a big reciever/charger and instead one of those micro-logitech ones (those are awesome). altho for my needs im really happy. I just ordered the G51Vx-A1, it comes with the Razer Coppperhead. So i will keep my wireless mouse at home with its dongle and when im on the go, i have a Copperhead to take with me (wired isnt too bad when your on the go.)

 

My personal mouse is the lachesis,I felt through the lachesis,DA and G9x at the store...and decided that the Lachesis was for me,its shape may be terrible for the kind of people with stubby fingers or extreme palm grips(like finger over hang on the front of the mouse) but I find its design perfect for my big palm /long fingers,with the thing set to 4000 DPI and pointer speed turned down I find it to be a very precise mouse that owns all previous mice I have ever used,and trust me,you will find a use for all 9 of its buttons,I have,I use the two left buttons for Volume,right buttons for Forward and back in Browsers,the two topside buttions for new tab and refresh,and the scrolling wheel button for on the fly sensitivity adjustment.

 

I'll throw in my input too.

I've gone through a couple high-end logitech mice. The first was the MX518, fantastic mouse and except for its looks it is very nice. Sadly, mine died after a couple years of use. The next I got was the MX Revolution and I really did not like this mouse. It really turned me away from wireless mice. I sent this one back in to get repaired but in the mean time I got a Razer DeathAdder (for a damn good price too)

The DeathAdder is my favorite mouse by far. I'm not saying its the best because I'm sure that garetjax will just dispute that until he dies, but this mosue fits me the best. The rubber grip on the top of it is fantastic. The contours of the mouse are perfect for a palm grip and the side buttons are in the right spot and are very comfortable to use. The tracking is fantastic, the firmware lets you customize everything you can think of and even more.

All in all, this mouse is the most comfortable and flawless mouse I have ever used. Oh, and if you don't like the lights on it you can just turn it off in the firmware.

I definitely won't be returning to the revolution (or any other mouse) for quite a while

 

just get deathadder, i got one rly cheap and performance is just great, btw u can turn off that flashy light on wheel, gosh

 

You're right, I won't dispute it. I agree, the Deathadder is not the best mouse.

 

ok then garetjax, lets here your answer, what do you think is the best mouse out rite now?

 

There is no way that I, or anyone else, can answer that question objectively. Everyone has their own preferences when it comes to mice. Declaring what mouse I think is best will no doubt be contested by someone else according to their criteria of what they think is best.

 

haha nice answer...dam was hoping that you would answer besides that specific answer. touche sir, sorry we got all worked up just on mice...

 

So... You just don't know what you are talking about.

DA is the best out there (At least till someone make a decent review of xai) and that's it.

Best sensor, awesome shape and you don't have arguments against it.

Optical > Laser (except for the "magic" laser sensor in xai which i don't tried yet), i tested every high-end laser mouse and every laser mouse failed with my sens.

So I'm gonna make a logical question for you:

If laser mouses aren't suitable for low - ultra low sens players and optical are suitable for high and low sens players which sensor is the best?.

When you come to a topic and say that DA isn't a top performer you can't talk about tastes.

DA have the best sensor and you can't deny it.

/thread.

 

Oh, I beg to differ...

...because simply stated, the premise and intent of the OP's question in this thread was not about sensor technology in mice. Allow me to refresh your memory, way back on page 1:

So yeah, what was that about top performing mice not catering to personal tastes? In this situation, personal taste has everything to do with it, according to the OP.

Irony at its finest... it smells like... victory.

 

The Kensington Mouse-in-a-box I bought from a Gamestop in 1998 was the best mouse ever made.

 

My point isn't about the OP question but about your troll posts, let me refresh your memory:

But wait...

So if it isn't about sensor it should be about shape but wait... This is personal taste! so wait a minute...

I don't even need to use arguments against you, you don't have a point and is obvious that you are only trolling.

DA have the best sensor, one of the most best shapes around (million times better than the stupid G9 shape's and ANY competitive gamer gonna agree with me) and you don't have arguments against it.

Yes DA is a top performer.

Unh... It smells like... Self-owned.

 

If that guy think is the best for him, that is enough. So stop your non sense arguing. Everyone has their own opinion, get over it.

 

Honestly, this thread should be closed, the OP has already made his decision.

 

I enjoy the fact that the minute someone disagrees with someone else's assessment on a particular product, be it a mouse or otherwise, they are immediately labeled a troll. It must be a gut reaction when faced with adversity that you can't rationally discuss a topic without resorting to insults.

Any competitive gamer? Really? You talked to all of them? And they all agree with you? Making such sweeping statements without having supporting evidence is a bit anti-climatic. It also makes your argument look weak.

And again, this thread is not based on sensor technology, but mouse ergonomics, as evidenced by the inital poster. Perhaps if you took the time to read the thread thoroughly, I wouldn't have to tell you this again... for the second time.

Your opinion does not neccessarily mean that everyone else shares your same sentiments. However, I imagine it's much easier to belittle someone that doesn't share the same opinion as yours than actually presenting a logical, compelling counter argument.

 

yea take it easy BIGX333...DA is the BEST for *some* people. i could now argue that mamba is the best for *some* people or G9 is the best for *some(garetjax)* but then i would get in an arguement so...lets ask someone to close this thread already.

 

You enjoy to look like a victim yeah? .

If you disagree with other people opinions and start discussing about it it's ok but when you don't respect other people opinions and start a discussion without ANY arguments you are trolling.

I have been playing professional gaming for enough time to know how competitive players think and what they like .

I already said that I'm not replying to the OP but to you, I'm debating your stupid statements not the OP question (which is already more than answered).

It's not an opinion it's a FACT, DA is one of the best mouses out there and like i already said you don't even got arguments against it.

DA have a 3.0 based shape and 3.0 shape has already proved to be one of the best shapes if not the best and the best sensor. Sorry but this make DA a top performer .

I can't provide a logical counter argument against a guy who doesn't even got arguments .

DA is the best mouse because is the most equilibrated but this doesn't means that you HAVE to buy a DA.

I have a DA and i don't play with it because i prefer MX518 but I'm mature enough to admit that DA is better.

 

I think I've done well respecting other people's opinions. We've had a lively debate, a bit spirited perhaps, but all in good taste. However, feel free to prove me wrong.

I see. So now it's not the fact that any competitive gamer will agree with you, but you inherently know, like a sixth sense, that competitive gamers would, without first being consulted or polled for their opinions.

I'm probably not the first to tell you this, but no amount of experience gives you the right to speak on behalf of professional gamers who may or may not want you representing them.

So much for respecting other people's opinions... hypocrisy much?

Yes, you keep saying that...

...and the reason you don't have to buy a Deathadder is because, *gasp*, someone has an opinion contrary to yours and chooses what they think is the best mouse?

 

Just read your own posts .

You fail at trying to be funny, sorry.

I attended to more than 50 lan events and never saw a single competitive player with G9 is it magic?, i have much more propriety to talk about what competitive players prefer than you.

I made the statement and who have to prove the opposite is you but i think that it's more than clear that you can't yeah?.

I was talking about competitive players but if you want to talk about professional... Find ONE professional player which use G9 and i shut up... Oh wait, you can't .

Hypocrisy?, why i should respect troll's opinions ?.

And you keep making replies without any argument .

iPod is a piece of crap and people still prefer it over other player with way better sound quality, this make iPod better for anyone?: no.

MX5XX shape can fit better in your hand and if you think that the sensor is good enough for you theres no point in buying DA but this make MX5XX better?: no.

This make it more suitable for you, not the best.

The point is what you are trying to trade for something you want, it doesn't change any fact.

BTW you say that DA isn't a top performer so... Tell me your top 5 mouses please, it will be funny .

 

Too each their own. If you perform your optimal best on a G9 then that is the best mouse.... for you.

Not everyone has the same hand size, shape or dexterity so there is no universally ultimate mouse in the market.

This thread has outlived its purpose and its starting to become petty & pointless

Thread Closed.