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    Razer Tiamat 7.1

    Discussion in 'Accessories' started by StillNotJay, Apr 27, 2012.

  1. StillNotJay

    StillNotJay Notebook Enthusiast

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    Has anyone tried these out yet?
     
  2. Baka

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    Baka wants one but it's still not in stock for sale in Asia Pacific region. It's never in stock :mad:

    That and Baka needs to get a soundcard for it if Baka gets one ._.
     
  3. StillNotJay

    StillNotJay Notebook Enthusiast

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    T,T I know what you mean
     
  4. jpangeles1581

    jpangeles1581 Notebook Guru

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    His/her name is Baka, try to replace Baka with "I" or "Me" .

    P.S. He talks like Dobby from Harry Potter

    EDIT : Anyways how do you get this 7.1 to work on a laptop?
     
  5. TheGamerofGames

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    hey if anyone has already tried this can you inform me if the the tiamat is confortable while using glasses...
     
  6. City.

    City. Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm just curious but would the tiamat ever work in conjunction with a megaladon since it would hold a 7.1 card/system?

    it would be a pretty nice combination... can imagine the wires being super long though.
     
  7. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    Vicious thinks surround gimmick is gimmicky.

    Nine and a Half out of Ten Vikings prefer 2 channel stereo headphones for maximum compatibility and trouble free operation.


    Now its time for school.

    Lesson #1 You Get What You Pay For

    Behold the cheap $5.00 speaker
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    The cheap $5.00 sounds cheap.

    Behold the better $50.00 speaker
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    The better $50.00 speaker sounds better.

    Extra Credit: 1 better speaker sounds better than 2 cheap speakers, sound quality is based on speaker quality not quantity.

    Now let's do math.

    Two $5.00 speakers would cost $10.00
    (5x2 = 10)

    Two $50.00 speakers would cost $100.00
    (50x2 = 100)


    Now that math class is over lets do politics.

    - Today's lesson is, nothing is free. Companies are in business to make money and thus sell you products not give them away.

    Thus we may conclude that this speaker housing 1 woofer
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    would cost less than this identical speaker housing a 2nd woofer
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    This is a true statement. The first speaker cost apx $103.00 while the second cost $171.00

    Now lets apply what we have learned today class.

    If a pair of high quality headphones cost $200 with 2 speakers we can conclude to good degree those speakers are worth about $100 each and going back to the first lesson, expensive speakers sound better than cheap ones.

    Now if we had a pair of headphones with 10 speakers that cost $200 we can conclude that the speakers are worth only approximately $20 each and would fall under the "cheap speaker" category.
    As we learned prior more crappy speakers do not add up to be better or equal to lesser numbers of good speakers as audio quality is based on speaker quality not quantity. From our other lesson "nothing is free" we can conclude that a company would not sell a pair of headphones with 10 $100 speakers for $200 and give you the extra 8 speakers for free.

    Thus in conclusion we can affirm that buying less speakers for the same money is a better idea than buying more speakers.


    Now be sure to come back to class next week as we take on more advanced lessons, schedule ahead of time to attend;

    Razer Tax 101: How boutique brands charge more money for products than other brands based on brand name alone rather than product worth. Bose & Dre Beats are special guests.

    The Human Ear 101: How you only have 2 eardrums and can only receive 2 sound signals at the same time and how spacial awareness is based on delay and distance between yourself and the sound thus making surround sound headphones a gimmick and not work any different than a 2 speaker headphone producing the same sound signal.


    -Viking guarantee once you attend all 3 lessons and are certified in knowing how to spot BS you will never look at another pair of surround headphones again.
     
  8. Convel

    Convel Notebook Deity

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    I think most people here are already aware that you get far superior audio quality from an equally priced stereo headset. They might still opt for a surround headset even though the sound won't be as directional as what you would get from a home cinema system.
     
  9. ViciousXUSMC

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    That would be because they have not attended class #3, you cant get true surround sound fro headphones. Virtual surround from a single driver will deliver exactly the same audio.
     
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    Baka feels enlightened with all those classes now ._.

    Though Baka still wants a Tiamat 7.1 for the hell of it ._.

    Though Baka feels lazy looking and spending extra for a 7.1 card. Maybe Baka will settles for a Tiamat 2.2 ._.

    If it'll ever get in stock...
     
  11. Convel

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    Doesn't where the audio hits your ear still matter?
     
  12. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    No it does not. There is only one where, your eardrum its all one destination.

    Your brain does the decoding of what the ear recieves, and that information is simply soundwavs, speakers can generate multiple sound waves else you would need a different speaker for every frequency.
     
  13. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Does anybody know where to buy a cheap knockoff of the tiamat? This is too expensive for me.
     
  14. tijo

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    You mean the Tiamat 7.1 or 2.2. You can get a Syberia v2 or Corsair vengeance 1300/1500 for less or the same price and those are actually decent. Corsair went with a cheap dac on the 1500 though.
     
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    Tiamat 7.1
     
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    You want the 7.1 function with speakers or virtual is fine?
     
  17. Convel

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    I know our brain does all the decoding and that sound waves all end up in the same place. What I'm referring to is this:
    Surely a headset with multiple speakers will have better possibilities of recreating a 3D sound environment. At least if the sound waves from said speakers are directed properly, like they are in Psyko headsets.
    Too bad their sound quality won't suffice for anything but gaming.
     
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    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    7.1, what's virtual?
     
  19. Convel

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    It's when you simulate additional speakers. For instance a stereo headset can simulate a 7.1 environment. Think of it as fake surround.
     
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    With decent drivers in the headset, virtual 7.1 could be better than real 7.1 with crap drivers.

    The 7.1 in the corsair vengeance isn't bad for games and if i recall correctly, the G35 is also decent in that regard. I wouldn't use those headset for music much though, while you can adjust the eq on the vengeance 1500, it still doesn't beat a good pair of headphones.

    The vengeance does get a bit uncomfortable after a couple of hours wearing it though. I'd put the limit at around 4 hours of non stop use before it gets annoying.

    EDIT: When i say drivers, i mean the "speakers" rather than the software drivers.
     
  21. Ktulu85

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    So Vicious, after all your classes I'm left with one question.

    Can you recommend a specific headset?
     
  22. Convel

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    There are plenty of good stereo headsets out there, so you should add how much you're willing to spend.
     
  23. tijo

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    As well as add what you'll be using the headset for, most headsets aren't too good for musing, but some are enough to get by.
     
  24. ViciousXUSMC

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    I moved passed headsets a long time ago, too limited in choices and they cost more than equivalent headphones just because of the built in mic.

    So I prefer headphones + external mic combo. Gives me 10x more options, higher quality, and more versatility.


    In the last few months I have used 2 headsets. The Steelseries Siberia V2 and it did a pretty good job for the cost. Mic was actually really good but sound quality not so hot, good for games not for music for sure.

    Then I tried one of the more expensive the Beyerdynamic MMX300 quality was good but I felt for the cost it was not worth it, my cheaper headphones were on par with sound quality and my external mics offered better quality than its built in mic.

    I did reviews on both, just search the forums or google for them.