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    Rechargable wireless mouse?

    Discussion in 'Accessories' started by mrcarter, Jun 3, 2011.

  1. mrcarter

    mrcarter Notebook Geek

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    I currently have a gyration air mouse elite and the scrolling sucks :(

    I'm leaning towards a m705 but the design is kind of similar to a mx performance mouse that I already own.

    I will be using this mouse for work since I use my MX for gaming.

    Any help will be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. sarge_

    sarge_ Notebook Deity

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    Well, rechargeable batteries are cheap on eBay, so don't limit yourself.
     
  3. pukemon

    pukemon are you unplugged?

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    yep rechargeable batteries are better option for longevity and environment.
     
  4. mrcarter

    mrcarter Notebook Geek

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    Thanks for opening up my mind guys.

    Rechargeable batteries it is.

    Cheers. :)
     
  5. pukemon

    pukemon are you unplugged?

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    sanyo eneloops and tenergy batteries are the best. i really don't know what the best chargers are, but there a combo packages of batteries and chargers on amazon. i would recommend getting a sanyo eneloop battery/charger combo. i don't have a sanyo charger, but the no name charger i got had good ratings on amazon and i can't find it anymore. i highly recommend a charger that auto detects alkalines and won't charge those.
     
  6. forward observer

    forward observer Newbie

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    I just got one of the Logitech 705's for my ASUS G73 laptop, and I am quite pleased with it. The size is just between a mini-mouse and full size--plus it's got just enough extra buttons. However, it is not a rechargeable mouse as such, but simply takes any type of AA batteries---regular or rechargeable.

    According to Logitech's hype, regular batteries (2 AA"s) will last up to 3 years. If this is true, the extra price of rechargeable and a charger will have to be considered. There is an on/off switch on the bottom of the mouse, and I suppose one would have to be diligent in its use to make the batteries last that long.

    I have been using Rayovac NmH (Nickle metal Hydride) hybrid double A rechargeable in my older desk top Logitech wireless, and I usually get up to two months out of a charge, but then it is an older non-power saving device. It will be interesting to see how long these rechargeable last in the 705.

    I think a Rayovac hybrid starter set with a charger, two AA's and two AAA cost me about $15 on sale at Target. I have since bought an extra four pack of each size battery for about $5 per set. I have not seen the charger set in any stores recently, but here is a link to such a set on EBay.

    Rayovac hybrid

    Of course these take 6 to 8 hours to charge, and I have not investigated any of the newer quick charge types that are available.

    Cheers
     
  7. debguy

    debguy rip dmr

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    Don't let yourself get fooled by product names. They say absolutely nothing about the quality of a battery or accumulator.
    What is important is the charge of the battery. Good AA accumulators will have above 2Ah of charge, which should be printed on the package and the accumulator itself.
     
  8. pukemon

    pukemon are you unplugged?

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    So what are you trying to say? I should believe the packaging over the brand? I could go on a long rant about this but ill just say sanyos are the name brand and tenergys are the generic.
     
  9. crayonyes

    crayonyes Custom Title! WooHoooo !!

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    hmm and I thought it is the other way around ....




    ...

    yes it's the other way around :)
     
  10. debguy

    debguy rip dmr

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    That's what I said.

    I know none of those brands.
    At least on my side of the atlantic one can be sure that a battery that says it has 2500mAh will run approximately 3 times as long as one that says 750mAh while having the brand label "Varta" on it doesn't necessarily mean that it will work longer than some no-name.
    If that's different on your side, well, then I've learned something new.
     
  11. pukemon

    pukemon are you unplugged?

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    Well going by your logic I can go grab two batteries out of the trash wrap it in plastic, grab a permanent marker and 250ah and 1,000,000 charge cycles on it and charge a dollar for it. I was just trying to recommend rechargeables to the Guy. Some brands are better than others. I'm not a battery expert nor have a lot of experience with rechargeables and not many people do. Some people swear by Sanyo and others tenergy. There are a few other good brands out there but I am not acquainted with them as I just started using rechargeables myself. I chose both those brands for personal use because of the charge cycles allowed and others recommended them both highly. Some more than the other. I didn't choose because of what it said on the packaging other than the size.
     
  12. debguy

    debguy rip dmr

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    Going by your logic I can just take that marker and write a brand name on a no-name product.
    This point doesn't bring us any further. Either we agree to trust the label no matter if we go by charge or by brand name or we agree not to trust it.

    That's a very good idea.

    Well, at least in my surrounding quite a lot of people use rechargeables and I tend to believe this goes for a lot of people in my country. In German they are simply called "Akku" (abbr. for Akkumulator) while batteries are called "Batterie" and nobody would think of a Batterie to be rechargeable. Everybody refers to a rechargeable as an Akku. I guess there are just some national differences in usage.
    I ride a lot by bicycle and especially in winter most of it in the dark. My lamps are all equipped with Akkus for about 12 years now so I assume I have a slight expertise.
    I'd have to think very hard to find a device of mine that doesn't run with Akkus - maybe some remote control that still works with the Batterie that was included in the package.

    Like I said, I've never heard of those brands so I can't judge them. So I'd go by the charge if I'd be in the US and would see a Sanyo when I want to buy some Akkus. Where I come from popular brands are Varta, Energizer and Duracel. And each of them has different products with different charges for different prices.
     
  13. crayonyes

    crayonyes Custom Title! WooHoooo !!

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    well then you have new things to learn :D
    here is some info about low self-discharge rechargeable batteries, specifically eneloop
    SANYO eneloop | Ready to use Rechargeable Battery - The only battery you will ever need

    low self-discharge batteries can last longer in some devices compared to bigger capacity but not low-self-discharge ones.

    and google is your friend, meet google.
     
  14. yellowlt4

    yellowlt4 Notebook Consultant

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    If you go with the M705 from Logitech dont worry about the batterres. I'm over 14 months in with mine and the original duracell batteries are still going strong. Everything I have read pretty much confirms that this mouse could go ~3 years on a single set of batteries.
     
  15. yellowlt4

    yellowlt4 Notebook Consultant

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    Eneloops are about as good as it gets, the best battery I have ever used.
     
  16. debguy

    debguy rip dmr

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    Thanks for the link!
    Especially this document seems to be interesting as it describes how the improved self discharge characteristics are reached:
    http://www.eneloop.info/fileadmin/EDITORS/ENELOOP/ARTICLES/Teraoka_Article_EN.pdf

    Frankly I don't have enough knowledge about chemistry to judge how the new alloy works in detail, but if it does like described there the rest sounds reasonable from a physical point of view.