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    Recommend me a 24" monitor <$400. Any LED ones?

    Discussion in 'Accessories' started by I&#9829;RAM, Dec 13, 2008.

  1. I♥RAM

    I♥RAM Notebook Deity

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    I can't seem to find any nice 1920x1200 resolution monitors with LED backlights. I truly enjoy how bright and vivid my laptop LED display is, I'm a little worried an external monitor won't look as good? Or is that stretching it? Only LED I can find is Apple's, but that's $800+ I think.

    All-in-all, any really good external monitors with great brightness?
     
  2. FrozenDarkness

    FrozenDarkness Notebook Deity

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    you will find no LED panels for <$400.

    Heck you won't even find a good quality LCD panel for <$400. You're best bet would be the Dell 2408wfp which is going for 498 + tax right now. For sure the color reproduction will be better than your laptop because every laptop panel uses a TN display. Plus, I hear the 2408 uses a CCFL and LED hybrid to achieve its 108% Color Gamut since normal CCFL technically can't achieve that I'm inclined to believe that claim.
     
  3. lixuelai

    lixuelai Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    If you do not mind used you can find a number of PVA/MVA panels for under $400. Used is generally not a bad thing with LCDs as you can ask the seller about defects vs buying a black box.
     
  4. I♥RAM

    I♥RAM Notebook Deity

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    There are about 10-13 good ones on newegg.com alone.

    I believe the 2408W is 110% color gamut, but anyway 498+tax is not what I'm looking for.

    Probably would have to look on ebay (and yeah I'm looking for new ones w/ warranty).
     
  5. atbnet

    atbnet Notebook Prophet

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  6. I♥RAM

    I♥RAM Notebook Deity

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    Yeah that's one of my favorites, I'm debating between that one and Samsungs one:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001263

    Then I realized Dell's is 92% color gamut (Samsung is 82%), same price and same brightness (400 cd/m2). Samsung is free shipping though, lol.

    Thanks atb.

    Edit: E248WFP @ eBay for $325 free shipping http://cgi.ebay.com/BRAND-NEW-DELL-E248WFP-24-WIDESCREEN-LCD-FLAT-PANEL_W0QQitemZ190273907392QQcmdZViewItemQQptZComputer_Monitors?hash=item190273907392&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A15|39%3A1|240%3A1318

    :D
     
  7. nons_

    nons_ Notebook Consultant

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    I own a Samsung 245B, 24" 1920x1200, TN-Panel. the brightness is >400 cd/m² = great. I can't compare this to my laptop screen at all, even tho it's a dual-lamp display. I'm really satisfied with this monitor and can only recommend it, especially in terms of brightness - including light distribution (very even). since I bought it quite some time ago, I don't know if it's an outdated model.
     
  8. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    I♥RAM, I own that Dell monitor, and I must say that it is awesome. It is a very nice screen, matte finish, and very fast response time. It is a TN panel, but nonetheless it is by far the best bang for the buck 24" screen,

    Here is my review of the screen:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=295912

    If you want any pictures, or any better videos, shoot me a PM, I am sure I could send you something.

    K-TRON
     
  9. Batman_360

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    Newegg has a special deal on an Acer 1920x1080 21.5" LCD monitor for $199. Can't argue with that resolution! Deal ends 12/24.
     
  10. FrozenDarkness

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    i dono how you can make a topic of LED panels and turn around and tell me TN panels are great.

    I totally thought you wanted a good color reproduction panel. Anyway, the only panel that is decent for cheap is probably the Westinghouse LN24 I think they stopped making those and, personally, I think the black levels leave something to be desired.
     
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    QFT, though the laptop LCD is most likely TN with LED backlit.
     
  12. I♥RAM

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    Alright forget the TN and LED's then. Any other recommendations? <$500? Geez these are too expensive...
     
  13. lixuelai

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    If you are lucky you might be able to find a hp lp2475w for under $500. Certainly if the Ebay live cashback deal comes back. The hp is IPS I believe.
     
  14. Vogelbung

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    I would say if you want a decent (i.e. non-TN) 24" monitor, the 2408WFP is pretty decent (as well as up to date in all it's connections).

    If you look on fleabay, you might also find a 2407WFP-HC which is in warranty for ~2 more years, which is also a great monitor and the ones I have most of(and in terms of the consistency of the monitors I have is way better than the supposedly better-paneled 23" Apple Cinema Displays, which I also have a large quantity of).
     
  15. I♥RAM

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    2408WFP is way over the budget...

    Right now I'm how wondering bad TN is, I'm not a professional photo editor, I can live with a slightly worse color. I mean seriously $400 can't make me happy? I really like a couple 24" Samsungs but god all this TN talk is making me not wanna buy anything, lol.
     
  16. afhstingray

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    why dont you just go check some of them out in the store first!!

    if you're happy with even the cheapest one, then you'd probably be happy with the panels you found within ur budget.
     
  17. I♥RAM

    I♥RAM Notebook Deity

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    Stores in NY sell electronics for a significantly higher price, and most of the selection in Best Buy or Circuit City is bland. They also have very crappy support for customers. I'd rather not.
     
  18. lixuelai

    lixuelai Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    Well you can at least get an idea how bad (or not so bad) TN is.
     
  19. nons_

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    I thought the major "bad" part about TN panels was their viewing angle properties. well anyways, like I wrote before - I own a samsung with TN panel and am satisfied.
     
  20. psygn

    psygn Notebook Evangelist

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    TN isn't bad at all if you're looking at it straight on, and don't do any graphics work. For browsing, gaming and such, TN panels work fine. The people who moan and groan about it are usually the folks who need color accuracy (photographers, graphics designers, etc.), or had the pleasure of using one.
    As for me, I own a 2408WFP because I am a graphics designer, gamer, and a future photographer... and because I got it for $350 ;)
     
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    TN really isn't that bad. I think my LED screen on my notebook is fantastic. Even my cheapo Hanns screen which is now showing its age was very nice when I first got it. Then again I've never had a need for such a high end screen.
     
  22. I♥RAM

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    I could not care less about viewing angles, as long as color remains consistent within 30-40 degrees of movement its fine, and if not I will always look at it straight-on which is how I enjoy it, no problem for me to sit up.

    Oh and psygn, 2408WFP for $350 brand new? I am sooo jealous :(.
     
  23. lixuelai

    lixuelai Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    That is the problem with TN. The color shifts especially on a large panel. If you are happy with your notebook you doubt you will have issues with a decent TN however.
     
  24. mr.bobharris

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    hanns g is the way to go, i love my 28" monitor.
     
  25. TrustedAndy

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    Having reviewed a great many monitors I'd like to point out that "colour gamut" can be a bit of red herring when it comes to quality. Unless you're looking at high-end screens for photographers and the like, companies always refer to the NTSC colour space (as opposed to superior AdobeRGB) and frankly 108% NTSC is hardly something to shout about. Also, it's worth checking out what monitors come properly calibrated out of the box, since many Dell's (just an example, it's not exclusive to Dell) aren't calibrated properly so look like arse unless you have the proper tools.

    Unless you're performing colour sensitive work, most modern TN 24" LCDs are actually pretty good so don't be put off by their less than stellar history.
     
  26. Vogelbung

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    Yeah - I have seen a few and have some 22" TN's. They're certainly a lot better than many panel nerds (many of them who couldn't afford to buy any of the monitors they're yammering on about) would have you believe. But the difference between something like a PVA Dell 2408 and something noticeably discernible as worse (especially in terms of the colour shift given your vantage point in relation to being in front of a monitor in a TN 24" monitor) is comparatively little these days - so if you can stretch, might as well.

    Calibration? None that I've seen - and you don't exactly need a degree in art to eye-calibrate even a menu-laden Dell properly. The key to doing it if you don't own a hardware calibrator is is to start from the colour settings and adjust the RGB balance first to get approximately the hue that you think you should have.

    Some Applefreaks will tell you that the ACD's come factory calibrated - which is BS, like most talk about the superior quality of stuff from the company.
     
  27. lixuelai

    lixuelai Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    Nice flame bite...
     
  28. I♥RAM

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    lmao thank you Vogel, I like the post.
     
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    Hi afhistngray... i see you have a m4400. im looking at getting one myself. would you recommend the samsung 245B monitor for this computer as a second screen? im looking at these two. would appreciate any help from anyone? ive read some places that some screens mess up with the 1900x1200 resolution and always reset when powered off... will this combination produce the same result?
     
  30. PhoenixFx

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    Whatever problems you might have with resolution are due to driver bugs related to the notebook, external monitor band doesn’t matter.

    P.S : reviving an old thread for a completely different question is not a good idea.