Recommendation For Logitech Ergonomic Anti-Carpal tunnel Syndrome Mouse?

Hello guys! I cannot decide between the following 3:

1. G500
2. Marathon 705
3. Anywhere

I am not into gaming and more into office work. I am right-handed and need ergonomic mouse for "Palm Rest" where my palm lies comfortably on the back of mouse and is not facing downwards which causes strain. I work on laptop mostly in same location so i am less mobile. My length of hands is over 17.5cm if counting from the wrist so small mouse like Microsoft 3000 is not good for me and i need at least medium one. Corded or cordless and working on glass is least important but i would prefer laser over optical. Battery life should be 6 months or more.


Thanks beforehand guys!

 

Out of these three, i'd pick the G500, however it might not have to be a logitech. The mionix naos 3200 or the razer deathadder might suit your needs as well. Personally, i prefer the Naos over my logitech MX600 as the logitech is a bit too small for my hands. The best thing you could do is go to a store like best buy and ask if you can try the mice you mentioned, that way you'll have a good idea of whether they suit you or not.

 

For your needs, I wouldn't buy any of them.

The Logitech Marathon 705 and Logitech Anywhere MX mice are smaller portable mice that are not big enough to rest your palm. You will probably worsen your Carpel Tunnel Syndrome by using those mice. The Logitech G500 mouse is reasonably large, but doesn't have an ideal shape for your needs.

The mouse I would recommend is a MadCatz Cyborg RAT7 (or RAT9). This is an adjustable-shape mouse, with adjustable / removable palm rests, adjustable thumb rest, adjustable ring/pinky rests. It looks ugly, and you won't be using a lot of its features (since they are aimed at gaming). But it will be by far, the most comfortable mouse you will ever use (and will be configurable enough to accomodate your palm rest needs).




Don't take chances with your health. Because once your Carpel Tunnel Syndrome worsens, no amount of money or surgery can restore your health back to 100%.

 

kent1146, i don't have carpal tunnel syndrome. I just want mouse that will be safe against it. I need something like Microsoft's standard mouse:

 

Ohhhh, I gotcha.

If you want to protect against that, and want a productivity mouse, then get a Logitech Performance MX.

The "hump" on the mouse is a bit larger than the Logitech G500, so it wil give you a little bit more to rest your palm on.

 

As others have said, none of those mice are particularly large and they will probably not help with carpal tunnel.

I'll second tijo's recommendation of the Razer DeathAdder. It's a similar size and shape to the Microsoft mouse you posted:



It's wired,lightweight, has 5 perfectly placed buttons and one of the best optical sensors ever made. Relatively inexpensive at $45 on Amazon, too. Easily the most comfortable mouse I have ever used.

 

Here is my broken Microsoft mouse (right) with Microsoft Wireless Optical Notebook Mouse (left):

 

I was referring to the three Logitech mice you listed in your original post. The DeathAdder is very similar in size and shape to that Microsoft mouse.

 

Sure. I think Logitech Anywhere mouse is close to that Microsoft 3000 so i have G500 and Marathon 705 now to choose from. I held 705 and it felt fine i would say... Did not try G500 however.

G500 and Razer DeathAdder are same in price and differ by $25 from Marathon 705.

 

If you care anything about performance, don't get the M705. I own one that came with my MK710 Wireless Desktop, I think the size and comfort is perfect but the off sensor location is a big downfall; the mouse movements feel unnatural and off course tracking movement. I'd rather choose a lower end Logitech M310 (no extra button and no universal scroll) or Microsoft Mobile Mouse 4000 (no feedback scroll, hard to press middle button) over the M705 which I also found has not so great build quality.

If you can wait the Razer DeathAdder usually goes on sale (at least in Canada) if not, I'd still recommend getting a DeathAdder, G500 or even a Razer Abyssus (smaller, claw grip) and CM Storm Spawn (very new, claw grip, very good reviews) over the M705.

 

I also highly recommend this.

 

This.

The Spawn is a very comfy general-purpose mouse for everyday use. You could look in to the vertical mouse but as far as a regular mouse goes, the CM is definitely one of the more comfortable ones for those used to smaller mice. It's wide, but for a reason - there's somewhere to put all your fingers.

The R.A.T. is not ergonomic. It's adjustable in all the wrong ways and doesn't really promote comfort.

 

I made this video after suffering this kind of problem.
I hope you enjoy it and to be usefull someway!!

Beware your mouse - Preacher´s Hand - (mouse syndrom) - YouTube


Good luck and success

 

I'd recommend a wrist rest to go with the mouse too. Especially if you aren't going to be using it on the go much.

 

I'm not convinced. If we're talking one of those gel things I think they constrict blood flow beyond just your wrist resting on the table.

 

Personally I don't have that problem with it. But I also understand that not everyone will use it the same way or have the same results.

-Tapatalk

 

Also try adjusting your seat height so your arm isnt in an angle that puts pressure on your wrist.

Personally i like the Microsoft Intellimouse v3 or Logitech trackball for office use.

 

Try a medical splint which keeps your wrist and palm in line.. and if you truly do have carpal's, then its very important to wear that splint at night..

as far as mice go.. i'd +1 to the Rat 7 or 9.. I just got myself a rat 7 and i'm loving it.. You can customize it yo your liking by increasing the mouse length and raising the palm rest

Also as flipfire said, adjust your chair height such that the pressure doesnt fall on your wrist.

As far as wrist rests go, I'd caution against one.. They usually tend to angulate your wrist rather than straighten it and they also distribute the pressure evenly across your wrist which might end up making the pain and numbness worse.. The only scenario in which a wrist rest would be of benefit is when your entire palm is already resting on the back of the mouse and the distal part of your forearm needs support to keep to keep the wrist joint straight..

 

Absolutely not for the RAT7. It's *not* ergonomic in any form due to the adjustment. That, and it's just not a very good mouse.

The range, and scope of, adjustment doesn't really have any significant impact on the core ergonomics of the mouse - which is, really, as fixed as any other mouse - while having some functional impact. (I posted about e.g. the balance issue elsewhere, but there are other issues)

That it looks hella cool is not something I'll dispute however.

 

I was concerned about the balance issue before buying it but I faced no such problem. Even with the palm rest extended it doesnt lift up at the least when my palm is on it. If i put pressure with only the tip of my finger at the absolute back edge then it lifts up but that kind of uneven pressure is never exerted..

Perhaps its because i got the new contagion edition and they fixed it in it..
It also has a new sensor.. While 6400dpi is beyond overkill, it does allegedly fix the skipping issues some people faced.. Atleast i havent had any problems with it in that aspect.

As far as ergonomics go.. I dont know if you'd call it ergonomic or not.. Because it certainly doesnt look like its designed to fit the human body, but its comfortable as hell.. It solves all problems i've ever had with the designs of every other mouse i've used..

I always wanted a proper pinky support and not have it drag aroung on the mousepad.. check, full platform pinky support

I always felt the thumb buttons were either too are out of the reach of the thumb and cause the mouse to move while putting pressure on em, especially the slow dpi aka sniper button on some mice.. fixed, The entire thumb rest is position adjustable.. you can slide it front and back to have the buttons right under your thumb depending on how you hold it. Not only that, you can tilt the thumb rest out so that the thumb movement required to push them, esp the sniper button doesnt move the entire mouse.

Then there's the lenght adjustment.. I always felt every mouse just wasnt big enough and now i can make it whatever lenght i want and raise the hight with the optional palm rest..

Also really liked the horizontally scrolling second wheel.. Very useful.. Right now haven it bound to switch through tabs in chrome and the sniper button to close tab.. feels really nice..

The only things i havent liked about it so far.. The profile switch button is awkwardly placed, its angulated away from you and you cant see the light colour to find out which profile youre on without leaning over or lifting the mouse up.
I would have also really liked it if the pinky rest's position was also adjustable.

Anyway.. I know there's a lot of criticism about this mouse from some people.. But just like any other mouse you really have to try it to see if it suits you..
I've gotten a few logitech mice which came highly recommended from the community and i've had to return or sell them.. This is the 1st mouse i've gotten which i'm truly satisfied with.


EDit: just realised this is not the rat thread so sorry about that. As far as OP's problem goes.. I just want to re iterate my previous point.. Irrespective of which mouse you get.. Try using a wrist splint/brace and position yourself properly while working and you wont have any problem with any mouse that you end up choosing.

 

Maybe when stationary. Track it with a camera pointed at it though and you'll see how the balance is affected by having the rear skate too much to the fore.

See above.

I've had both. Skips are very much present in both, as well as overall jumpiness in a large dpi range - but that factor appears to be driver related than mouse related.

At full palmrest extension where it's still properly supported, it's the same effective length as many of the large gaming mice. The highest palmrest + maximum extension only works if you have, as I've mentioned elsewhere, giant meatplates of hands.

It's not that some people wouldn't find it perfectly usable or comfortable. What I'm saying is that the range of adjustment doesn't usefully address differences in physiology as widely as it promises - i.e. your hand has to work with the basic shape of the RAT in order to find it comfortable, and in that way it's no different to any other mouse.

The pinkie tray does seem to find a lot of fans, but I can't say it bothers me that much, because it's your weakest finger and therefore only for loosely hanging on to the mouse anyway. The fourth finger needs support and the RAT leaves that twisting around 90 degrees (i.e. not even a rounded edge to wrap around) to grab the side or resting uncomfortably on effectively a bladed edge of plastic, depending on the length of your fingers / size of hands.

 

I suppose i kind of agree with that. I mean the people recommending me the various logitech and razer models must have seen something in them to do so.. They probably worked very well with their hands but didnt with mine..

But you do have to admit that due to the flexibility of shape, however limited it maybe, the likelihood of a person finding it comfortable to use is definitely higher than a fixed shape mouse...

 

You left out the bit in the sentence before your quote which illustrates why I don't admit it at all. The adjustment it offers is largely smoke & mirrors. If you want ergonomic adjustment along with decent function, the balance of the mouse has to be better in all adjustment modes, and the front of the mouse also has to be adjustable - i.e. button angle, button height, mid-body height, etc. Screwing around with the rear and the consequent drape of the hand across the mouse is simply just a variation on the same mouse - you can get the same effect with an offset claw hold of a claw mouse, a hold that's adopted by many claw favourers with larger hands.

 

This is crucial, I have used http://www.shareware-beach.com/photos/J1282748.jpg over 15 years working in PC support.. I have no wirst problems

 

I find having a mouse that is lighter really seems to help my carpel tunnel.. I used to have a wireless logitech one that was really heavy and i switched to a basic ms optical and it is leagues better. Cheaper too.

 

I've grown used to the thumb ball of the logitech m570 myself but if you're not FPS gaming then a trackball will give you the most ergonomic shape as you can rest everything but your ball finger(s) and don't need to squeeze anything.