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    Sennheiser HD 555 finally arrived!

    Discussion in 'Accessories' started by miscolobo, Jan 13, 2009.

  1. Syndrome

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    Sometimes you have to ignore him, he's a head-fi addict thus meaning he knows alot about stuff. ;)
     
  2. saintalfonzo

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    He sounds like a teen who thinks he knows a lot of stuff, but half of what he says is wrong.
     
  3. Syndrome

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    Oh yeah, thats what I meant.
     
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    Firstly, i am not a teen .so what i say is based on my knowledge & experience.

    also u said half of what i say is wrong...So tell me what i said was wrong?


    really would like to know .

    it must be a loosely used term in your forums..but anywhere else it only causes confusion if the person isnt into it personally.
     
  5. Syndrome

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    Oh, is this what you meant about the teen thing? Thats what I meant. rofl
     
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    Which is exactly my point -- don't be a douche bag about things you clearly don't know anything about.

    There's only confusion when you speak definitively and mock others about things where you clearly have a great deal of ignorance.

    Asking me to clarify my terminology is one thing, openly mocking me is a completely different thing, and that's the route you decided to take. Twice.
     
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    i only tried to correct u.. Vinyl FLAC is a wrong term technically....and i did tell u that....until u called me a douche bag who doesnt know anything and claimed we are on same page..which we are not.

    converting Vinyl to Flac is process for which u need to have basic understanding of what SNR is. what is the recommended Sampling rate and Bit depth.


    also for so called EQ which u do at home...pls refer to RIAA guidelines first on Equalization which every sound engineer has to know of during Mastering.

    without it..all you are doing is messing up the sound....especially the digital formats which are more unforgiving to Equalization.

    Do u know why recordings these days suck? .due to digital equalization which engineers like to play with.


    btw..this is a very interesting subject..i can talk about it for hours...wont say i am a hardcore audiophile..but more of audio enthusiast.
    but since a career in it is not very high paying..and very inconsistent..i chose not to do a degree in Audio engineering...and just pursue it as a hobby for now



    I suggest u read this book: " Fundamentals of Audio Production" by Drew O. McDaniel (Ohio University).

    it ll tell u all you need to know about Vinyls..how they are made...and how to bring the recordings on them to digital format with a better SNR and keeping it Bit Perfect.


    We can discuss more instead of fighting.
     
  8. Jlbrightbill

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    There you go again, educating me on things I already know. I don't need to discuss something with someone who clearly thinks he knows more than me.

    I'm a bit tired of your posts bleeding with obvious attempts to sound more knowledgeable by throwing terms around. I've read enough college papers in my day to know when somebody is BSing a topic they researched the hour beforehand.
     
  9. Gazza_DJ

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    The only time you will be hearing the audio as it was engineered by the sound engineers is if you have flat response headphones, or flat response speakers in a perfect room (i.e. a room with no missing bass frequencies, equal deadening across the frequency range so you dont get more reverb from one frequency than another etc) - two things that MOST people dont have, especially on the second part.
    EQ is the most effective way to balance out deficiencies in your audio setup - whether that is compensating for your speakers frequency response or the deficiencies of the room. Of course, in the case of bass frequencies being missing due to the dimensions of the room you cannot replace them by using EQ, but you can slightly boost the frequencies around there to cancel out the thiness caused by certain frequencies being missing or greatly attenuated.
     
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    well ..one man's EQing is another man's noise.

    if u like it ..do it..no one can stop u...but then u shud also read about effective EQing....otherwise u mite be doing it wrong.


    for example..if u r listening to Rock music..and your headphones are very recessed in mids..then u shud boost midrange frequencies...instead of Lows.

    personally i wud ditch the headphones or not use them if they cant ace in the music i like to listen.

    also..

    EQing only boosts frequencies..it doesnt improve frequencies...it wont change the timbre...it wont change the detail..basically u r sacrificing one frequency for the other...if u boost the Midrange..u wont hear lows or highs as good...they ll get recessed.


    on the other hand..if u have flat response or reasonably good equipment...u ll hear more details per song.


    EQing is a total compromise..and thats not what a music lover wud 'ideally' wanna do.

    thats why i personally dont like it...also because i am no sound engineer..i mess it up by boosting the wrong frequencies.
     
  11. Gazza_DJ

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    Considering what I study / what I will be doing for a living, effective EQing wont be a problem for me - I'm currently studying a National Diploma in Music Tech, and will be continuing that at Degree (BSc) level in september - the course covers everything from sound engineering and studio techniques to digital audio principles, composing and arranging.

    A lot of people listen to a lot of different types of music, and it would be impractical to have a different set of headphones or speakers for each genre of music. Also, not everyone can afford three figure headphones.

    You are assuming you are EQing something that is perfect already - what im talking about is different. You boost say, frequencies around 500Hz for example because that frequency is attenuated in the first place, so it will not affect high frequencies and lower frequencies. You are compensating for the listening environment and/or the frequency response of the listening equipment. Its not about trying to change the timbre.
     
  12. Syndrome

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    Basically all your doing is letting the headphones be the EQ, you can simply look at each sound signature of headphones to be a different EQ setting. And those headphones may or may not sound right with the genre, thus you use your EQ and change it a little. With most of the cheap EQ's then it does make it somewhat horrible, but if you find a really good EQ then it makes it really nice.
     
  13. Gazza_DJ

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    Good way of looking at it Syndrome.
     
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    hmm...not exactly.

    now ...no amount of EQing can make Bose sound like Grado SR225 for Rock.

    but u can still hear the guitar louder in Bose by boosting that frequency range.

    by good EQ..are u talking about Analog EQs?..like graphic equalizer on the DAC's?
     
  15. Gazza_DJ

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    Your missing the point mate - its not about making one set of headphones sound like another - its about making up for deficiencies in your setup.
     
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    i understand that.

    thats what i used to do when i had Sony neckband style headphones..they lacked bass..so i wud use 'Bass booster' on iPod.

    not that the bass will become better..but bass will become louder so when i played trance music ..i cud hear the beats louder than vocals.


    but thats one of the reason why i bought better headphones so i cud hear the bass better than just louder...and everything else also.

    some like it louder..

    some like it better overall
     
  17. Syndrome

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    I never said you could make crap headphones sound like nice headphones with an EQ. All I'm saying is you can change the sound with an EQ, just as well as you can change the sound with headphones. And just like good and bad headphones, theres good and bad EQ's, weather its digital or analog it can be good or bad. All I'm saying, is people come in and bash EQ's and other effects, and call them garbage because they change the sound, when in reality, EVERYTHING changes the sound. Some are good at it, some are bad at it.
     
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    Everything you guys say is like driving school. All perfect and nice but in the real world it barely applies :D .

    EQs are a must for any type of music, headset, etc.
     
  19. Syndrome

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    Are you speaking to me? I always use an EQ. And just for the record, I actually learned alot in driving school. :p
     
  20. Wishmaker

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    Does the phrasing "you guys say" refer to one person :p :p ?


    I learned how NOT to drive in driving school :).
     
  21. Syndrome

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    Yes, but even that makes you a better driver. ;)
     
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