SteelSeries? WoW: Cataclysm MMO mouse

what are your thoughts on this ? is it going to compare to the previous WoW mouse ?
SteelSeries – World of Warcraft®: Cataclysm? MMO Gaming Mouse

 

If some1 is in to wow then it's ok ..
But next to the other gaming mouses it looks crap.
Meet with the prev wow mouse in store.

 

Im not planning on buying this, it just seemed to be a cool looking mouse. coming from another cool looking mouse !

 

lol that thing is wicked. Theres truly no real way to start off the expansion unless you have this mouse.

 

haha if i where a die hard WoW player id go crazy over this.
Ive used the First wow mouse, it seemed to be really bulky ? thoughts ?

 

Its hard to go completely awry with any mouse. There's many others Id rather get tho then any of the wow mice. Still this one has some unique buttons thats for sure.

 

Overpriced gimmick.

All of the marketing focuses on it being a World of Warcraft product, than it focuses on being a mouse.

Call me old fashioned, but I want to read a web page that talks about features that actually make a better mouse (DPI, USB polling rates, weights, teflon feet, buttons), than a website filled with WoW co-branding.

 

This cracks me up.....
I'm assuming you don't have much experience in sales or marketing, as you're pretty critical of anything that uses well placed marketing to sell a product. It seems like anytime you see marketing, you spit on it and run the other direction. This has been the case in numerous threads regarding "gaming products".

The fact of the matter is, the average gamer, particularly one of an MMO such as WoW, would rather have something that works well and that was made for the game they devote the bulk of their time to, rather than having the "bleeding edge" specs on paper that few other mice do. Most consumers couldn't tell you what DPI is, let alone how it affects their daily computing. Dare we go into polling rates? BUT, they certainly know that cataclysm is going to be their game of choice, and they love the idea of having macros programmed into their buttons with an easy to use interface, and are willing to pay a higher price to have something that they identfiy with. Aesthetics isn't a bad word. Aesthetics =/= Perfomance, I'll agree with you on that, but only because the weight of each is subjective to the individual.

This product is made by a large company that has a proven track record in the gaming arena, and was developed with the WoW player in mind. Why NOT take advantage of that? It's good for SteelSeries, good for Blizzard, and good for most WoW consumers. Just my observation.



To the mouse itself, if I still played WoW, I'd love to have that mouse. It looks well designed, and the button placement seems nice. Not to mention it would look great while killing Deathwing.

 

I actually work in Sales for a mid-sized American software company. I understand that it is not the value of the product that matters, but the perception of value that really sells a product.

I have no problem with marketing. What I DO have a problem with is paying for marketing / branding that makes no difference to the actual performance of the product.

When gaming mice advertise things like gold-plated USB connectors, I have an immediate negative reaction. I have never in my life thought "You know, this mouse I own would really be better if it had gold-plated connectors." That is absolutely useless to a mouse. I never thought to myself "Oh, you know what, this pair of Monster Beats headphones must sound better because it has a Dr. Dre brand on it." All of that is marketing useless features. I don't want to pay for it, and I will post on this forum in the hopes that other people don't pay for the marketing of those useless features either.

However, I *DO* support marketing of gaming mice that actually improve performance. The Logitech G700 is a great mouse with great features. The Logitech Anywhere / Performance MX are great mice for those looking to mouse on glass or polished stone. The Cyborg RAT 7 is an excellent mouse for those looking to tweak every little nuance of their mouse feel.

Again, call me old fashioned, but I prefer to buy products where every possible cent goes towards the performance of the product, and not the marketing of image and useless features. But then again, I am also someone who will go to the grocery store and buy the store-brand product rather than the name brand product, because I am convinced that what you buy there (minus branding and packaging) are otherwise identical.

 

After looking at my previous post, I came off a little hostile. My apologies there.

I suppose I agree that Dr. Dre's name and the "blinged out" usb connectors are superfluous to the products themselves.

Not sure I'd call it old-fashioned, but a different value system, which is a good thing.

Again, forgive my accusations, I just noticed a trend that seemed to point to your condoning anything that was pushed with marketing. In hindsight, the observation was a shallow surface to the underlying meaning.

Thanks for taking the time to explain that.


While we're agreed that the inclusion of gold on the usb tip has nothing to do with the product's performance, some consumers might. I'll certainly stand by co-branding with something as massive as WoW though. That's guaranteed sales. Even if you make a crap product, people will still buy it due to the sticker it has on it. (From my experience, Steelseries is a pretty quality company though)

 

Fair enough. Thank you for taking the time to clarify your post.

The way I look at it, people come to these forums to collect opinions and recommendations from enthusiasts such as us. And if we can provide a variety of well-researched opinions / recommendations to our fellow forum members, then we are doing them a service. It gives them more information upon which to base their personal purchase decision.

 

thanks guys, i dont have any attention on buying this, i just wanted to show anyone who has thought about it.

 

Id buy it if it showed up in my local walmart or something. Sweet frigin mouse. If it had one of those wireless usbs that click in the underside of it that would be cool to!

 

It will be in your local bestbuy... more then likely the older WoW mouse it.

 

i'd consider buying it if it didn't have the WoW logo on it - i don't need to associate myself with that

it looks less cumbersome than the 1st mouse

i bet it's just as overpriced though - for the money you could could get a naga or g700 and spend the rest on heroin to provide you with a more family friendly and fulfilling alternative addiction than WoW

 

haha wow ok, just because you play WoW doesn't mean your some some kind of broken person who doesnt care about family or friends. and this mouse has one thing that the g70o has... and that would be StealSeries.

 

If you're willing to pay for an overpriced underperforming brand-loyalty product you *might* be ;-)

 

I agree with this, but part of me shuns it also. I Cant even read there forums its so agrivating, I can read one thread on most forums that are wow public and Im ready to have an brain aneurysm. I made a thread about cataclysm releasing in the off topic section, and to research it a bit I went to mmorpg.com, they have wow forums there. I swear after reading two pages about the release, I couldnt take it any more and had to close the page.

I think the comunity is what makes the game addicting and how they act/attitude to others its not the actual game that is addicting, its the community, its a mob gangland atmosphere lol...

I do love the game its the best game to ever release and still is and I also played it for years(3 or 4 years) and I still play it off and on when I get the chance.

 

Burnt/Hey man i dont care if this mouse never sells, all im saying is that its made by an awesome company and its "cool" looking, so i shared it with the NBR community. I am personally never going to buy this mouse, but your attitude towards people who play WoW is wrong.

 

I've loosely played WoW since vanilla; i'm on illidan. you're right; I'm sure a lot of people could totally quit whenever they want

 

Looks like the format of a microsoft mouse I have seen focused on presentations, just fancied up some with lights and fancy buttons.

The MS mouse in question was bulky and not really what I would want to use for my system esp not for gaming.

I guess though you would get used to any mouse you own over time.

 

What kind of mouse do you use?

What would you recommend, mainly for MMOs (WoW mainly; possibly TOR in a few months....... )

I'm wavering between the g700 or the naga to replace my $15 logitech I've had for 2 years.

 

I have not used a G700 but it looks like a good mouse.

I have not used the Naga either, but I seriously think its overkill. Thats too many buttons on a small area and I think it would be harder to commit all those buttons to touch/muscle memory than it would be the keys of the keyboard.

I think your best off learning hotkeys and touch typing on the keyboard and relying on a nice solid standard type mouse and not some MMO specialized one.

I am not a fan of any Razer products, I look at them as the mouse company version of Monster or Bose, or most designer label clothing.

You get a product that has a higher cost simply due to name brand and brand popularity. I always felt this way about Razer but my opinion was pretty solidified when they came out with the imperator, almost a 100% MX518 clone yet it cost nearly 2x more.

Atleast they cloned a good mouse, I love the MX518 my first one lasted forever and I only replaced it with a new one since I saw them on sale one day.


Edit: Forgot to say what I use.

I use a MX518 on my desktop, and a G7 on my laptop. I used to play WoW. Mained a Warlock and had no issues using keyboard hotkeys for almost everything, and just used good UI mods for anything else.

Back then the stock UI had no options and sucked, these days the UI has been expanded so you can have extra bars and things so I dont even feel the need to use a UI mod.

Id like to get back into WoW if I had the time, my new VoIP server is ideal for WoW since you can do grouping for raids and stuff so that would be fun to try.

 

Um...what? The MX518 is an 1,800 DPI optical mouse, and the Imperator has a 5,600 DPI laser, with adjustable button positioning. The shapes aren't even that similar.

You should try a DeathAdder, that's their flagship mouse, and it's a real treat to use.

 

+rep. I feel the same way.

 

^ so because it looks good it doesnt preform well ? everyone says they dont like that its all "PwN n00bz g4M3r" but never admit that razer makes a good mouse lol

 

I think that Razer mice perform just fine.

The problem is that I don't like paying for "PwN n00bZ g4M3r" features that don't benefit performance or usability. Features like colored LED's and gold-plated USB connectors cost money. Razer marketing costs money. All of these things improve the perception of a high-performing mouse, but don't have an impact on actual performance.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying that Razer mice perform poorly. Again, I think they perform just fine. What I am saying is that I don't want to pay for features that don't relate to performance.

But then again, that is my personal preference, because I value performance so much more than any other criteria. There are plenty of people out there who would gladly pay for aesthetics like colored LED's or a particular color/paint design on their mouse. And that is fine, because that is what is important to them. But when it comes to mice for me, it's performance all the way.

 

Ok, i understand where your coming from. IMO id still would have bought my deathadder if it didnt have the LED wheel and pulsing light. and if the Stealseries Xai didnt cost an arm, and would have felt better i would have gotten that.

 

I had a Mamba and kept it for 2 days before I put it on sale and went back to my MX518

5700DPI is pointless marketing hype nobody can use 5700DPI 1600DPI that the MX518 does is more than enough.

Kent said what I try to say pretty well, its not a bad product just an overpriced product

But many people think its ok to pay more for "designer" stuff so they do not feel the same way about it. So thats why I convey that its simply my opinion that Razer is overpriced and not worth the money.

But I think performance wise, all other major brands offer mice with the same degree of performance capabilities for less, so I dont think you can argue that Razer cost more because its higher performance.

 

Razer sells extremely good mice.

If you play WoW, or even any game with multiple buttons, then the Naga is hands down the best mouse on the market.



I've been using the original since it's release. I just pre-ordered this special edition one because I couldn't live without it on the road.

There's no gimmicky layout to it like all of the other MMO mice. All of the buttons are laid out exactly where they should be - on a grid. And, for only $80, it's even cheaper than most other gaming mice (including the one in this thread, I believe it was $100).

It's a must-have for MMO gamers. PVPing with it feels like cheating.

 

I think they recently came out with a wireless version of the Naga, as well...although accordingly more expensive. Same 1ms wireless and 5,600 DPI as the Mamba.

 

DO you really use all thoose buttons ? it seems like they are to close together?

 

The point is that they're close, it helps tremendously with reaction time. It really feels natural in your hand, though, and they don't feel too close at all (I have average sized hands).

The wireless one seems nice but really expensive ($130) for what you get for it. I guess it would be nice to have for on-the-road but even then, the wired one is fine, and you'd still have to carry around the communication dock anyways (which I assume is also the charging dock, that is fairly large). If it was bluetooth wireless (ick) it wouldn't be so bad but I'd still keep it plugged in.

And the color changing aspect is cool but I'd leave mine on red regardless.

 

Exactly what I'd say, except one point. I agree with you on the new Naga, except I'd always keep mine on blue to match my Asus G50. Therefore, I just stuck with the standard Naga. Damn shame when they killed the Maelstrom one, but I can understand it, given how close its color scheme seemed to the existing model.

The new Naga EPIC just does not impress me. Color swapping is unimportant. The wireless is pointless as long as you have to use a docking station. Switchable sideplates are useless since the one that is the default on the regular Naga is perfect (for me). And then to charge $130 for it. Wow. I paid $50 for my Naga, $30 for my Belkin N52te, $20 for my used Xbox 360 wired controller, and $20 for my Razer eXactmat. Just can't imagine paying $130 for JUST a mouse...

Using a Belkin N52te and a Razer Naga help keep me from having to use my laptop's keyboard for games, which helps since it gets toasty.