Suggestion for wireless lag-free mice usable for gaming?

Okay so I'm looking to sell my RAT5 mouse and have been looking into getting the Logitech Performance MX. I do casual gaming from time to time, a couple of times a week which doesn't really justify me having a dedicated gaming mouse since I use the mouse often but the wire gets on the way alot.

Do you guys think the Performance MX is fine for casual gaming? Games like COD, a few other shooter games and RPG. What kind of lag issues would I be looking at? Also, what wireless mouse would you suggest? Any and all help or suggestions are appreciated.

 

I've been using wireless mice since the Logitech MX700 and I can say that none of them presented lag issues for gaming. The only problem I had was interference with the MX610 (thing would stop working for one second every now and then). Currently using the MX1100 and can't be happier. Might get another one just for storage.

 

So isit certain mice that cause problems? I've readalt of post by gamers saying how much they dislike wireless mice due to lag issues and suggest not using them for games with the exception or dedicated wireless mice like the RAT9. Thanks for the quick input

 

Yes, should be just fine. If you're doing casual gaming, then you won't really benefit from what a gaming mouse has to offer.

The Logitech Performance MX is the most comfortable wireless mouse I've used. And the Darkfield imaging sensor is the best sensor I have ever used. Works on anything, never picky, needs a mousepad.

"Lag" issues are determined by USB polling rate. These days, most wireless mice (e.g. Logitech Performance MX) use a polling rate of 125Hz or 8ms. That means your computer will read data from the mouse's imaging sensor and update the cursor position on your screen every 8ms. By comparison, a gaming-grade wireless mouse can do this up to 1000Hz or every 1ms.

The person mentioning "lag" on wireless mice was most likely either a super-picky snobby mouse user that demands only top-performance mice, or was someone using a cheap crappy piece-of-junk wireless mouse on 75Hz / 13ms polling rate.

If you are looking for better USB polling rate performance (up to 1000Hz / 1ms), then you will need to buy a gaming-grade wireless mouse, like the Logitech G700 (as well as other brands / models, depending on the shape, performance, and features you want). But be aware that gaming-grade wireless mice are going to be more expensive, and have much shorter battery life than a non-gaming Logitech Performance MX.

Unless you absolutely know that you must have nothing less than a wireless gaming mouse, I'd stick with the Logitech Performance MX. I consider myself to be one of those super-picky mouse snobs, and can game just fine on a Performance MX.

 

Why not just go for the G700, it seems a very good mouse, my best friend just bought one, i like a lot, even considering going wireless now... expensive but might be worth even if you are not a gamer.

 

I would not recommend the Logitech G700 to everyone.

It is more expensive than non-gaming mice, it is more picky about the type of surface you mouse on, it has more buttons than any non-gamer needs. And most importantly (or annoyingly), it runs out of batteries much more quickly than non-gaming mice.

The Logitech G700 is a fantastic mouse. And if someone wanted a wireless gaming mouse, I'd recommend the G700 in a heartbeat above anything else. But I don't think that it would be suitable in every situation, because of the drawbacks that I mentioned.

 

I just got the Logitech M705 Marathon Mouse and love it - fits my hand better than other mice (my hands aren't huge, but a bit on the large side), has great battery life, and doesn't have a bunch of extra buttons which I don't need

 

The G700 doesn't cost all that much more than the performance MX. I only use it on my mousepad, but it has had no tracking issues whatsoever. I wouldn't use my G700 on any other surface, because the wonderful feet might get scratched.

 

Lo, Mjolner, I wouldn't either.
If price doesn't matter, then I would suggest the G700.

 

wireless + gaming = G700

Its one of the few mice that is gaming grade while in wireless mode.

Its not very expensive compared to the few others that can do the same. Its been on sale for as little as $50.00

The formfactor the mouse has received mixed reviews. Some say its the most comfortable mouse they ever used, others say they cant stand it. So the shape of the mouse would be my only concern really.

 

I've been gaming for years... my old favourite was SOFII. I don't think there is a noticeable or even minute difference in wireless mice. I've been content kicking with a generic wireless Logictek Mouse for the past few years. I don't notice any sort of 'lag' or any problems. Just get yourself a nice mousepad that doesn't have too much grip so your mouse wont stick.

I personally hate corded mice because no matter what kind of mouse it is the cord is going to really P"!¤$# you off.

That's just my 2 cents. Mouse lag is a very overrated term in my opinion. I once was concerned about it.

 

The G700 is not good for Lefthanders, any left handed options? I am using a Razer Mamba right now, I like it. I am just wondering what lefthanded options are out there?

 

If you are looking for ambidextrous gaming mice, then Razer is the company to buy from. They do an excellent job at that.

If you are a non-gamer or casual gamer like RayStar, the OP, then there are several mice from several companies in the $20-$30 range that will work equally well left-handed or right-handed.

 

You don't even have to settle for ambidextrous; they have a left-handed version of the DeathAdder:

Razer | For Gamers. By Gamers.? | Online Store - Razer DeathAdder Left-Hand Edition

The DA is basically the same shape as the Mamba, just wired and without the two extra buttons on top. And of course, this version is backwards, so it's shaped to fit your left hand.

 

Thanks for all the suggestions, I'll decide between the G700 and the MX, I'm leaning more towards the MX if its fine for just casual gaming, cause I rather take longer battery life and a use-anywhere mouse then a dedicated gaming mouse. but if someone is willing to trade me directly for my mouse then I wouldnt mind the G700 with the loss of being able to use it on glass and other surfaces

for Left hand users, have you guys checked out the Logitech G9x? I do believe that its made for left handers

 

I don't think Logitech ever made a left-handed version of the G9x?

 

The G9x is definitely a right-hand oriented mouse.

 

oh my bad the way its shaped it looked like a left handed mouse to me, sorry for the misunderstanding .
I just realized one more thing, since the Performance MX comes with the charging cable that you can use while charging, that means that if I play with it plugged it I wont notice the difference than playing with any other mouse like the RAT5? Even though I'm over the whole lagging ordeal I just want to find out, for curiosity sake

 

The USB cable used by the Performance MX carries power only. All data still happens over a 2.4Ghz wireless connection, even when the mouse is plugged in.

 

Even if the Performance MX used the cable for data (AFAIK it's only for charging, the data is still sent and received via wireless), it would be at the same 125Hz/8ms polling as the wireless mode, which would be significantly laggier than a 1,000Hz/1ms mouse like the R.A.T. 5.

Not if you're left-handed.

 

I'm left handed, and I use my G700 just fine. Hint: I use it in my right hand.

I honestly don't understand why anyone uses a mouse with their left hand. Even though I am left handed I have always used mice with my right hand and it has worked completely fine. Just because you write with your left hand doesn't mean you have to do everything with it; people can learn fairly easily to do things with their non dominant hand as I do.

 

I have nerve damage in my right hand, some times things are not as simple as you think.

 

Ok, I had not thought of that.

 

Thanks for clearing that up for me guys, I really appreciate it, I dont have a problem the the G700 as much as long as the thumb buttons dont become too much of a bother, I dont want to keep pressing them accidently while using the mouse for regular use/web browsing

 

Has the Logitech M510 been mentioned? I use it for gaming and its fine. Laser, wireless unified dongle, 2 side buttons, rubber grip and it is indeed ambidextrous.

 

I second this...I had a G7 for a few years and was wanting a replacement...I love my Mamba, totally comfortable and extremely accurate with 0 lag. Even when I plug it in for wired mode, the thing still feels like it is wireless, they did a fantastic job on this mouse.

 

why not the cyborg R.A.T. 9??? you already have a rat 5 so you'll be used to its feel plus it has excellent wireless performance, better than g700 imho...

 

What about its wireless performance is better thanthe G700? They both have the same maximum polling rate, so their performance should be the same. My G700 has absolutely no problems with wireless performance; it performs just like a wireless mouse without the wire. I don't see how any mouse could have better wireless performance, since it works just as well as a wired mouse.

 

Here is why not the R.A.T.9:

(1) The RAT9 uses a large charging / wireless receiving station. It is far easier to carry a Logitech G700 around in a laptop bag than that.

(2) The Cyborg RAT-series mice use a Philips Twin Eye laser imaging sensor. Philips Twin Eye sucks. It is unreliable on less-than-perfect mousing surfaces, and it suffers from what is known as the Z-axis problem (mouse cursor will move when you lift the mouse off of the desk / mousepad).

Logitech G500, G700, G9X all use the Avago S9500 sensor, which is considered by hardcore mousing geeks to be the best mousing sensor there is. Always accurate, highly tolerant to imperfect mousing surfaces, no Z-axis issues.

(3) Mad Catz Cyborg (Saitek) configuration software kind of sucks. Logitech SetPoint is far better.

(4) Cost. Mad Catz Cyborg RAT9 is $130+. Logitech G700 can easily be found for $80 street price, with many places offering discounts and rebates as low as $55.

 

Cyborg Rat 9 mouse is meant to be heavily tweaked to fit the individual user's hand,G700 feels comfortable straight out of the box.As a side note,there are discussions regarding G700's weak battery life,it is fact most likely due to a software bug that wrongly displays the battery life,making people think that battery power has gone flat in just a few hours.I have carried on using it for more than 2 days despite indicator going red & low batt prompts on-screen,that's a total of at least 3 days on a single cell.

 

While I did consider the RAT9, the reasons that turned me off were point 1,3 and 4 as noted by Kent above. I want to pay little to nothing ontop of however much I sell my own mouse for plus they're great gaming mouse but abit of an overkill for the average user/casual gamer. The Performance MX and G700 fit in my budget range for how much I'm selling my own mouse.
@Kent: you wouldn't happen to know what sensor the MX uses would you

 

I dont knpw the manufacturer of the Logitech Darkfield sensors. Would not surprise me if it was Avago, since Logitech buys all of their laser sensors from them.

I can say that the Darkfield is the most tolerant of non-perfect mousing surfaes out of any mouse I have used. You can use it anywhere, on any surface, in any condition, and the mouse will operate perfectly every time. It is like the Glock handgun of mice.

the drawback of the Logitech Performance MX is that it doesnt have the DPI of a gaming mouse (app 1800dpi) or the USB polling rate (125Hz). If you are a hardcore gamer, the Logitech G700 would be the better choice. But for everyone else, I would say the Logitech Performance MX would be a smarter buy, for its awesome imaging sensor and longer battery life.

 

Can you give me an estimate comparison between the G700 and MX in battery life?
The last mouse and keyboard set I got from Logitech 2 years ago had a 3month-6month battery life with regular batteries, since these are rechargeable batteries how long would they last? couple of days? a week? 2 weeks? how much longer will the MX last than the G700?