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    USB 3.0 So slow?

    Discussion in 'Accessories' started by Romiyo, Dec 24, 2010.

  1. Romiyo

    Romiyo Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi, i recently bought an expresscard usb 3.0 and a 3.5" enclosure usb 3.0 from eBay. I install the usb 3.0 driver for the expresscard, plugged in my hard drive and got it to work. But the results are of transfer speed is extremely slow, almost no increase from Usb 2.0

    I transfer a file to my laptop at around 35mb/s when the hard drived is plugged into Usb 3.0 port

    When i plug it into Usb 2.0 it transfers at around 26mb/s. 9mb/s increase only???

    From laptop to hard drive... Usb 3.0 - 32mb/s
    Usb 2.0 - 24mb/s

    Ive seen videos showing around 120mb/s of transfer speed.
    What is going wrong?

    EDIT: Btw, im using a 3.5" 7200rpm hard drive externally powered.
     
  2. 1ceBlu3

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    Bearclaw Steaming

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    What kind of files were you transferring?
     
  4. Romiyo

    Romiyo Notebook Evangelist

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    random movies, some were around 1gb some 4gb, all roughly the same results.
     
  5. Duct Tape Dude

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    Romiyo: Do you have any other USB 3.0 ports on any other computer available to see whether the enclosure is holding your speeds back?

    Anyone else on this? I was looking to buy the same adapter.
     
  6. sama98b

    sama98b Notebook Evangelist

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    Expresscard usb 3.0 is only half of the speed of usb3 speeds.
    You will need usb3 flash drives, ssd-s, or hdd in raid ... single hdd-s slow as hell
     
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    I also thought this ??
     
  8. granyte

    granyte ATI+AMD -> DAAMIT

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    it all depends of the write speed of the recieving drive

    when loading data through my esata from a usb hdd to my raid array i get 70mb transfer rate when loading from the raid array to the usb drive i get 36
     
  9. Duct Tape Dude

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    I don't mind stepping down from 5Gbps to 2.5Gbps maximum, it's not like many hard drives can reach 300MB/s sustained.
    I have a USB 3.0 hard drive already (just got 2TB recently for $80! :)) and so I was looking to improve my system image copy times from 8 hours to anything shorter.

    5Gbps = 625MB/s
    2.5Gbps = 312 MB/s

    Even considering a massively overestimated 50% overhead for whatever reason, that's still >150MB/s. I'll take that for a single drive over my current USB 2.0.

    So now my main issue is, what USB Expresscard works well?
     
  10. Krane

    Krane Notebook Prophet

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    Expresscard USB 3.0 is only a stop gap until laptops with 3.0 become mainstream. Nevertheless, it's still a vast improvement over USB 2.0. Which I think is the point.
     
  11. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    This one works great. It doesn't fit quite flush with my MSI GX740, but only sticks out very slightly. It's far more aesthetically pleasing than most traditional Expresscard adapters. You also get a DC-to-USB power cable, which is only necessary if you have a high-power-draw device. It uses the standard NEC/Renesas drivers, which you can download from here.

    I have a WD MyBook 3.0 attached to that card and have had no problems thus far. I did a quick benchmark of it with USB 2.0 as well as USB 3 with and without the power adapter attached.
     
  12. Duct Tape Dude

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    Dude saturnotaku you're my savior. I just bought that card on the count of it was cheapest, smallest, I had a coupon, and figured I couldn't go wrong.

    Those benches are excellent and thanks for the driver link!! You've saved me hours of searching. :)
     
  13. 83bj60

    83bj60 Notebook Evangelist

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    Which one of the drivers are you using? There are so many on the page...
     
  14. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I'm just thinking - if you get USB 2 speeds, could the internal connection for the ExpressCard be USB based?
     
  15. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The latest ones at the top of the page.
     
  16. hydra

    hydra Breaks Laptops

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    FWIW

    I'm using cheap Dynex eSata ExpressCard which gives me peak 103MB/sec at 87MB/sec average if you trust the HDTune benches.

    All my USB2.0 Drives average around 15-25MB/sec on my 2 year old P6831..
     
  17. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I guess "FWIW" should be this?
    What does FWIW stand for?
     
  18. hydra

    hydra Breaks Laptops

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    LOL.......yes!
     
  19. Abula

    Abula Puro Chapin

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    I kinda was curious about USB3, since i have a desktop with Asus Sabertooth X58 and G73JW that both have USB3, so i bought a usb3 docking station.

    The test is moving a folder with 13.7GB, mostly 250mg avi/mkv/mp4 videos and some mp3s.
    Desktop HDD = Samsung HD502HJ
    Laptop HDD = Hitachi 7k500
    Dock HDD = Hitachi 5k500B

    From the Dock to Desktop = 2m 51sec
    From the Desktop to Dock = 4m 34sec

    From Dock to Laptop = 3m 20sec
    From Laptop to Dock = 5m 20sec

    On the slowests (from the computers to the dock) from what i remember the windows display transfers were around 45 m/s. On the fastest (dock to Computers) the windows display was around 70 m/s.

    Interestingly i took out an eSata docking station and tested with all the same (no laptop test as i dont have esata on the G73)
    From Dock to Desktop = 3m 36sec
    From Desktop to Dock = 5m 15sec.
     
  20. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    I'm using an USB 3.0 express card and have a 640GB HDD in an 3.0 enclosure, and when I move files from the computer to the drive, via USB 3.0, I get transfer speeds of about 70MB/s. My guess is that if I used an SSD in the enclosure, speeds would be faster. The 640GB 5400RPM is probably the bottle neck. All in all though, I'm happy with the express card. It's a nice little upgrade to my system.
     
  21. Abula

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    I ran crystaldiskmark on all setups just out of curiosity, here the results

    [​IMG]
     
  22. Duct Tape Dude

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    I just got the USB 3.0 expresscard set up and ran a quick HDTune bench.

    USB 2.0/ 3.0/ xImprovement
    In MB/s:
    Minimum: 29.6/ 62.2/ 2.1x
    Maximum: 33.2/ 118.2/ 3.56x
    Average: 33.1/ 101.2/ 3.06x
    Burst: 27.5/ 94.7/ 3.44x

    Not bad for a $19 card! Really happy so far.

    EDIT: I just completed a system image backup (430GB) in less than 3 hours. It took me more than 8 hours last time.