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    Which gaming mouse is best?

    Discussion in 'Accessories' started by detlik, Aug 2, 2010.

  1. detlik

    detlik Newbie

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    Hi everybody,
    I did little research and I need gaming mouse which would be almost perfect in every aspect. This is what I so far found. Logitech G9x,Logitech MX518,Logitech G500,ROCCAT Kone,CM STORM Sentinel, Gigabyte GM-M8000X. Any suggestions are welcome. I would want a mouse up to 2000 CZK which can be converted as (its inaccurate) 80 euro, 100 dollars, 67 british pounds.( I know few mouses of my choice doesnt fit in this price range but store from which I plan to buy it have sale now so suggest even something little above the range). Thanks for help everyone who will.
     
  2. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    How do you define perfect? What type of games do you play? What is your budget and where do you plan on purchasing from? Will you be using a particular mousepad? Certain mice perform better in specific types of games (RTS, FPS, etc.).
     
  3. Anggrian

    Anggrian Notebook Evangelist

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    I suggest Logitech MX518 :D great mouse for great price
    it's 8 buttons works perfectly on my second year using it
     
  4. Romiyo

    Romiyo Notebook Evangelist

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    From what i see in this video, this looks like the best to me

    YouTube - Official Cyborg R.A.T. 9 Product Demo
    But it just released and not much info about it is around.

    if you want a tried and tested 'perfect' gaming mouse, go for the Razer Mamba, or the Logitech g9x.
     
  5. detlik

    detlik Newbie

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    Can't name a brand/model but as you may know it must have a high sensitivity, posibility to customize buttons actions, ergonomic.
     
  7. detlik

    detlik Newbie

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  8. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    Technically speaking, the Razer Mamba is the "best" mouse in terms of numbers. It has a 5,600 DPI laser and has 1ms response in both wired and wireless modes. It is definitely top-notch, although probably a bit out of your budget.

    For under $100, my recommendation goes to the Razer DeathAdder. It's 3,500 DPI optical rather than laser, and is one of the most comfortable mice I've ever used.
     
  9. Ghost_AWP

    Ghost_AWP Notebook Evangelist

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    I would go with a Logitech G9X.
    Newegg.com - Logitech G9x Black Two modes scroll USB Wired Laser 5700 dpi Gaming Mouse
    5700 DPI. Comfortable. Adjustable weights (which is a necessity for me in FPS games).
    The only drawbacks are the price and the braided cable. I just got one from Ebay for $55. So you can get them cheaper. The braided cable sucks because eventually it starts to unravel if you pack and unpack it a lot. But it is the best mouse I have used to date.
     
  10. garetjax

    garetjax NBR Freelance Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    If going purely by "the numbers" the Razer Mamba is not the "best". That lofty designation goes to the Logitech G9x which features a 5,700 DPI laser sensor (not that an increase of 100 DPI of the G9x over the Mamba makes a hell of a difference). More info HERE.

    I would have to echo this sentiment, although for those that prefer laser optics in their mice, the vanilla Logitech G9 is just as equal in the performance, price, and ergonomics department. In fact, I would even hedge to say that the G9 offers far more value and usable features than the DeathAdder.
     
  11. bc2946088

    bc2946088 Notebook Consultant

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    I have the original G9 and have had it for over a year and love it. I got it brand new on an RMA from a previous wireless gaming mouse they no longer sold. I don't know about razer's support but i've exchanged several logitech's with great success. I got the g9 because the previous mouse started to fail after about 3 years, I think it had a 5 year warranty. The left click would fail to register about 1/50 clicks.

    Maybe Razer is just as good for warranty work. Also, i've had plenty of logitech's never fail, so don't think it's a quality issue.
     
  12. garetjax

    garetjax NBR Freelance Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    But, but, with Razer mice, you get super-awesome-rad, gnarly-sick lighting LED effects that help you pwn more in games! :D

    I swear, sometimes looking at Razer mice, I feel they're more concerned about looks moreso than function. Sorry 'shroom!
     
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  13. bc2946088

    bc2946088 Notebook Consultant

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    What's funny about that though, my g9 has the ability to change its led colors. My Orochi can't... However the wheel can light up giving it more flash. My kill count goes up with the blue wheel on.
     
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  14. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    True, but the Mamba can be wireless (and with no increase in input latency), which the G9/G9x cannot do.
    That's relative...personally, I found the weights on my old G9 useless, as I prefer my mice as light as possible. And the swappable grips as well; I just want one that fits (which, as it turned out for me, was the $20 separate grip).
    [​IMG]
    Anyway, looks don't preclude function. It is possible to have a device that both performs well and looks good.
     
  15. garetjax

    garetjax NBR Freelance Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    We aren't talking about wireless connectivity and its subsequent input latency versus the G9x. You specified numbers, specifically DPI, and numbers show the G9x kicking the Mamba's tail, regardless of the perceived benefits of the Mamba being wireless.

    Besides, any gamer worth their salt knows better than to game with a wireless mouse. What I find (oddly ironic, I might add) is the fact that you didn't care for the weights on the G9...

    ...yet you state that the wireless Mamba is better, which requires rechargeable batteries to operate, thus making the device (potentially) heavier than the G9 or any of its derivatives.

    Let me know when Razer makes one...
     
  16. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    I hardly call 5,700 vs. 5,600 DPI and the same 1ms input "kicking tail". And historically, the reasons not to game with a wireless mouse mainly had to do with input lag, which is a non-issue with the Mamba.

    The Mamba is slightly heavier than my DeathAdder and an empty G9, but not uncomfortably heavy for me.

    Out of curiosity, what about Razer mice do you think prevents them from performing well?
     
  17. garetjax

    garetjax NBR Freelance Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    I wouldn't either, as I voiced earlier in this thread:

    Nevertheless, you did state that the Mamba offered better numbers than the G9x which in fact, was not true at all. The point of the G9x "kicking tail" was to highlight the fact that the Mamba, which is placed on such a high pedestal by many, is not as good a mouse as the G9x when it comes to pure numbers.

    And here I thought it had nothing to do with the mouse being battery operated.
     
  18. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    Running out of batteries unexpectedly mid-game sucks, but to be fair, it's pretty hard to get caught off-guard with the Mamba. It's got a display to show the battery level.
     
  19. Romiyo

    Romiyo Notebook Evangelist

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    I wouldnt get a Razer mouse unless it goes up to the Imperator standard. The Deathadder just has too little keys, i cant change my dpi on the fly if i wanted to, as i prefer having those side keys for other things. Out of yours list, i would get the Logitech g9x.
     
  20. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    Protip: the DeathAdder has a DPI button on the underside.
     
  21. killab33

    killab33 Notebook Enthusiast

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    i have both mouses. to tell you the truth both of them are great. just whatever fits your hand and is smooth to operate and configure go for it.

    its not all about DPI cause people don't even know the whole use of 5700 and 5600. they truely don't notice it. i just think its aesthetics my2cents
     
  22. Romiyo

    Romiyo Notebook Evangelist

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    what? really? but having it on the underside makes it on-the-fly? i dont think so...
     
  23. xxERIKxx

    xxERIKxx Notebook Deity

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    It is really easy to do. tilt the mouse to the right and its right under the thumb buttons. I never do this though as it takes a second or two to register and can get you killed. That is the only thing I wish my deathadder had is True on-the-fly dpi changes.
     
  24. garetjax

    garetjax NBR Freelance Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    And Razer still labels the DeathAdder as an ergonomic, gaming-grade mouse? HCI design FTL!

    That would be like claiming the Corvette ZR1 is a sports car but the clutch pedal is located in the freakin' trunk.
     
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    nikolai090 Notebook Evangelist

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    OMG this mouse looks awesome! Would love to test it, and if I like it, buy it. :D
     
  26. xxERIKxx

    xxERIKxx Notebook Deity

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    I think the deathadder is very ergonomic and does very well in games. The only other mouse I can see myself using is a mamba because I just love the feel of them. Like I said I never switch my dpi in-game so it doesn't really bother me.
     
  27. bwazy

    bwazy Notebook Consultant

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    Razer Mamba for FPS hands down.
    For RPG, RTS, MMO's the Razer Naga.

    That is all.
     
  28. garetjax

    garetjax NBR Freelance Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    F4IL. :eek:
     
  29. bc2946088

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    I'm really wishing I could purchase all these mouses(?) so I could really test them out. I can't seem to let go that the G9x reigns supreme.
     
  30. garetjax

    garetjax NBR Freelance Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    Well, don't talk yourself out of the G9 or G9x. Try going to a retail store like Best Buy or Staples and seeing if they have any demo models on display.
     
  31. bc2946088

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    Oh, I havn't, I own a g9. I'm just adding that to the conversation that I really like it. I also own an orochi, but that mouse isnt in the comparison.
     
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    The Razer Naga is unbeatable if you want lots of buttons, but I would personally find it annoying trying to select the right one. If you have dexterous thumbs then it may be a better experience.

    Also, I purchased a DeathAdder Respawn two days ago and I can't fault it. The anti-tangle cable is a nice touch, especially if your planning on using it mobile.
     
  33. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    I used to be a Razer fan but recently switched over to SteelSeries and find their products to be superior in terms of precision/accuracy, feel, and build quality.

    There is way too much emphasis on DPI . . . it's really meaningless once you get past 1000-2000. I would ignore that number completely when buying mice.
    SteelSeries mice allow you to adjust both the CPI (Counts Per Inch - DPI is NOT the correct term for how a mouse measures movement) and the polling rate in increments of 1. Razer, etc, you can only set the polling rate at 125Hz, 500Hz, up to 1000Hz. I have my SteelSeries Xai set at 960Hz so it is synced to my monitor's refresh rate (60Hz); 960 is evenly divisible by 60.

    I recently bought a Razer Imperator and to me it feels cheap and the click feel is poor compared to the Boomslang CE 2007 I bought a few years ago and especially the Xai.
    One thing I like about the Xai is how the click feel is consistent no matter where you click it; can't say the same about other mice I have tried.

    The real downside of the Xai is price; at $89.99 is is tough to swallow.

    -------

    As for gold-plated USB connectors - I also would like to see any evidence that makes a difference.
     
  34. crayonyes

    crayonyes Custom Title! WooHoooo !!

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    I thought gold plated usb were made only to keep them from being rusty ?? :confused:
     
  35. garetjax

    garetjax NBR Freelance Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    Not quite. Marketers (like Razer) love to tout "gold plated" USB plugs as a feature on their mice and other peripherals because it insinuates the idea that the device will somehow perform faster/better. Which they don't.

    I would hedge that having a gold-plated USB connector on a mouse is supposed to give you the feeling of exclusivity, while offering absolutely nothing in return in regards to performance. All show and no go, if you will. Kind of like the products from a certain gaming oriented peripheral company I know.
     
  36. crayonyes

    crayonyes Custom Title! WooHoooo !!

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    LOL that's totally nutty
     
  37. Handsomerob

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    I use a Logitech Gaming G5 mouse. I love it
     
  38. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    How about playing online FPS with a trackpoint/pointstick? ;)
    The best mouse...ever. :p
     
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    I would suggest either the Logitech MX518, or the Logitech G5 :D
    I have a MX518 and I think its great. My friend has a G5 he says its better than the MX518, but I needed something a tad cheaper at the time.

    The MX518's ergonomic design is very good, I've played games for many hours straight, never had hand ache once. The G5 is roughly the same design shape, and it has weights you can interchange, so you can get the "smoothness" (how easily the mouse moves around) of the mouse to your liking.
     
  41. Jeffrey1987

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    Or the new Logitech G700?
     
  42. Patrick

    Patrick Formerly beat spamers with stiks

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    Mastershroom wat

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    Interesting...it looks more like the Performance MX than any of their previous gaming series mice.
     
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    I'll put in another vote for the G9x. I used the G5 as well and liked it. I like the weights a lot. I have a tendency to lift the mouse up off the surface when moving quickly. In my case, it may come from originally playing games with ball mice before optical mice took over. Those were inherently heavy.
     
  45. Thaenatos

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    I am a razer naga fan.
     
  46. Romiyo

    Romiyo Notebook Evangelist

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    Razer Naga is pretty much in a league of its own in terms of MMO mouses, but for FPS performance, i presonally would not advise anyone to get a Naga.
     
  47. Breaking Brian

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    I just got the Naga... I was playing some CoD with it yesterday (just got my M15x) and I was kicking butt. Buttons are easy to press, and it has the same performance as the Mamba.... Perfect mouse IMO.... Now I just gotta wait for FFXIV to comeout so I can ignore every other game to comeout in the next 7 years (sans FO:NV!)
     
  48. onspeed

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    mx518. been using an mx510 for like 5 years... would recommend that if it were still in production. color scheme is better. the newer mice seem better on paper, higher DPI, etc... but i've used a few of them.. a razor one, g7, mx revolution, and i can't feel it tracking any more accurately. so why spend the extra money? If you're right handed, i think the mx500/518 ergonomics is the best you can get.
     
  49. iamahadi

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    take a look at Steelseries..they have a few good, well-priced mice.
     
  50. alstrike

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    I´m using the Orochi.

    I know it can a turn into a pain in the due to the sleep issue, but I just plugged it and it has become something really special. It´s small, comfy and really fast, I had to settle at 2000 DPI!

    I am owning all over the "Arid Badlands" in Borderlands!