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    any gaming mouse on sale?

    Discussion in 'Accessories' started by beggerboi, Feb 28, 2012.

  1. beggerboi

    beggerboi Notebook Enthusiast

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    My former gaming mouse cooler master sentinel advanced failed me over and over again during this month, sensor stops working all of a sudden.

    so 10 minutes ago i morning star'd my mouse onto my desk and it shattered into a million pieces.

    im student on a budget and i know a bit about gaming mouses.

    i know what the highly rated mouses are -deathadder, g700, rat, g9x etc etc

    but buying them at regular price is so expensive, is there any mouse thats nice and fancy but on sale?

    looking for under 60$

    thanks
     
  2. s2odin

    s2odin Merrica!

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    You can pick up a Deathadder for $50 new.
    G9X is about $65.
    Storm Spawn is $30.
    R.A.T 3 is $40.
    Corsair Vengeance is $60.
    TT eSports is $45.
    Razer Orochi is $60.

    There are a ton of choices under $60 for quality gaming mice. It all depends on your grip and your personal preferences.
     
  3. beggerboi

    beggerboi Notebook Enthusiast

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    i was checking out TT esports, never heard of it, but the product looks pretty nice

    how are their reputation? and which mouse would you recommend from them?
     
  4. s2odin

    s2odin Merrica!

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    Thermaltake (TT) is a company is known for their cooling products for desktops and cases. They are generally regarded as one of the better cpu fan designers along with Cooler Master. As far as the mouse is concerned, it has a nice set of features and offers a fairly high DPI for its price range, as well as a weight system. I was going to get the mouse until I found a g9x on here someone was selling and went with that.

    I would check out the mouse reviews on Amazon and Newegg:
    Amazon.com: Thermaltake Tt eSports Black Laser 4000 DPI Gaming Mouse (MO-BLK002DT): Electronics
    Newegg.com - Tt eSPORTS BLACK Laser Gaming Mouse MO-BLK002DT
     
  5. beggerboi

    beggerboi Notebook Enthusiast

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    thanks dude i appreciate it!

    edit: i read the reviews of the black laser, when you pick it up and put it down, theres a delay before it starts working again

    is most mouse like this?
     
  6. Voodooi

    Voodooi AFK for a while...

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    I'd recommend the G9X out of that bunch.

    RAT3, which I've owned for 2 weeks is a notch below the G9X. No auto scroll wheel and the surface needs to be absolutely flat for it to respond properly. With the G9X, you can game on almost any surface (works excellent on the couch) and the auto scroll wheel is very convenient.

    I can't tell you how much I miss that specific feature on a mouse.
     
  7. Captain Razer

    Captain Razer Notebook Evangelist

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    stay away from the orochi (or any razer mouse, except the deathadder), it crapped out on me too..not worth the $60 at all!

    imo it's worth it to add $15 to go for G700 ($75 on amazon). best mouse ever, lots of macros and works best with MMOs, otherwise deathadder is the most reliable mouse I've ever owned!
     
  8. jrwingate6

    jrwingate6 Notebook Deity

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    For under $60, I would recommend the Logitech G500 which comes in around $55 and for $20 more, I am going to have to recommend the G700. I knows it's $15 over your price limit but the mouse is a pure performer. Everything about it from the button placement to the sensor makes it the best mouse I've ever used.
     
  9. houstoned

    houstoned Yoga Pants Connoisseur.

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    do u NEED a mouse right now? logitech products go on sale alot, or have rebates and coupon codes pretty often. i got my G500 for about $30-$35 bucks and the G700 can be had for $55-$60.
     
  10. hiarieshi

    hiarieshi Notebook Evangelist

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    + 1 to the g700. the g9x is really a claw grip mouse, It hurts my fingers after a period time of gaming. the g700 is more ergonomic, it's also wireless. Auto scroll wheel and macro buttons. Being one of the few wireless gaming mice, it has it's benefits, especially when on the move. Being a student you probably move form place to place.
     
  11. kent1146

    kent1146 Notebook Prophet

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    If you are on a budget, my recommendation is to buy a Logitech G400 for about $35, and call it a day. That mouse will do everything you need, and probably last longer than you will.

    I've used and owned about 12 mice over the past 12-18 months. I find that the optical sensor in the Logitech G400 is superior to high-DPI laser sensors because of tracking reliability, especially on imperfect mousing surfaces (like a bare desk). This includes the Logitech G500, G700, and G9x.

    I find that the Logitech G400 is superior to wireless mice because of its weight profile. It is a relatively light, center-balanced mouse. Most wireless mice (Logitech G700, Razer Orochi) are rear-balanced heavy mice. That creates an undesirable drag profile when you are using the mouse.

    The performance of the mouse is going to be higher than anything you will ever need. The mouse operates at up to 3600dpi and 1000Hz USB polling rate. You can find some mice with laser imaging sensors that track up to 6300+ dpi. But excessively high DPI sensitivity above 2000dpi is usually wasted, especially for laptop gaming and its lower resolution displays.

    If you really want to revel in your awesomeness, buy a Logitech G400 for $35, take the extra $25 in your budget, and go buy a case of beer.
     
  12. jrwingate6

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    The G400 was one of the 6 Logitech Mice I've owned over the past 12 years. Prior to the G400, I used a MX518. To tell you the truth, the G400 never lived up to the MX518 in my book. It's side buttons did not have the tactile feel I was used to. I gave up on it after a month or so and went back to the 518 for a little bit. Today, I use a G700 and I "personally" prefer a heavier mouse for the same reason I don't like pinky finger supports. I like the added drag as it gives me more control during fast movements. After my last two mice, I could never go back to a corded version. I try to use my G700 with the cord sometimes but it feels like it impares my movement. When it comes to tracking, a good laser sensor will track on nearly everything. Have I had laser sensors that sucked in the past. Yes, I have. My R.A.T and Razer Mamba sucked on some surfaces. When it comes to available buttons, unless the only kind of games you play are FPS, your going to want more than two programmable buttons. MACROS make MMO's and RPG's much easier to play. The scroll wheel is another key area. I also use my mouse for every day PC use and when I'm not gaming, I NEED a scroll wheel that moves freely.

    Lastly, I currently game using 4325 DPI on my 1080p display. I can assure you that the difference between 3600 and 4300 is very noticeable. I'm not trying to knock the G400 but there's a reason why it's a low end gaming mouse. It just doesn't have the features that Flagship mice have. Features I'm sure you can live with out but I cannot.
     
  13. joecait

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    I've have to agree with the above poster on more buttons. I never used to program my mice, but in day to day work/productivity, I have now programmed my Logitech G9x to close tabs, refresh screens, change tabs, go to the top of the screen, bottom, press enter, etc...

    Makes navigating so much better and can't see myself not having it anymore having tried it.

    And this is not even for gaming yet. :)

    Pretty happy with the Logitech G9x and also have a new G700 currently for future use. The cord never was a bother for me and I sorta like not having to recharge batteries.
     
  14. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    Unless you game at extremely high sensitivity (as in, under 2 inches of mouse motion to turn 360 degrees in-game), then there literally is no difference. At three inches per 360-degree rotation, the minimum required DPI to be able to turn one pixel at a time is about 1,800. To actually be able to have any difference performance-wise, your sensitivity would have to be almost uselessly high.
     
  15. jrwingate6

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    Maybe, but i can notice my pointer moving slower at 3600 DPI compared to 4300. I don't use Mouse Pointer speed to control the mouse speed. I leave it at zero and strictly use the DPI. Anyhow, like I said before. I can notice a difference in movement.
     
  16. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    Well if you never adjust your sensitivity, then of course you'll have different speed. :p

    Leave the Windows cursor speed setting at 6 out of 11 notches, and adjust your in-game sensitivity and DPI to compensate. As long as you're above the single-pixel tracking threshold, there literally is no difference, unless you're swinging your mouse around fast enough to exceed your mouse's perfect control speed. And if I'm not mistaken, the G400's would be higher than the G700's. :p
     
  17. jrwingate6

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    I don't let Windows handle my mouse speed. I find that using the raising the DPI rather than using the Mouse Pointer Speed slider gives me a smoother tracking experience. Just my preference.

    What is higher on the G400?
     
  18. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    The link that had a bunch of information about this is down, but long story short, mice have more perfect tracking at 6/11 Windows sensitivity, with DPI and individual game settings adjusted to compensate.

    Perfect control speed is the maximum speed at which you can physically move your mouse and have it maintain perfect tracking. Motion higher than this speed will cause tracking errors. In general, optical mice tend to have higher perfect control speeds than laser mice. I don't have the specific numbers for the G400 and G700, but in this regard, usually optical > laser. The DeathAdder had the record for highest perfect control speed of all optical and laser gaming mice for a number of years.

    Also, the Avago 9500 laser sensor has been shown to have positive and negative acceleration issues even at low speeds, which means technically its perfect control speed is on the low end, although its malfunction speed is still pretty high.

    This isn't the link I originally had, but it's a pretty solid guide to mice. The Truthful Mouse Guide
     
  19. jrwingate6

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    That's just what I'm used to doing. For some reason I just don't like the feel of the tracking when I pump up the pointer speed in Windows. I also disable mouse acceleration which cant be done just by checking the box in Windows 7. I'm just used to raising the DPI for pointer speed. In my opinion the tracking feels smoother this way. I have 3 settings i currently use. 250, 3175 and 4205. I can see and feel a major difference between all of them.

    In the end, their is no perfect way to set things and while a 6/11 pointer speed setting might feel great for most, its not great for me.


    When it comes to positive and negative acceleration issues, I've never noticed any. In the end, this sensor us the smoothest I've used and I've used a lot. I had the G400 and the G700 is noticeably smoother. It also feels more precise. Ill probably never go back to optical.
     
  20. MCJD4ever

    MCJD4ever Notebook Consultant

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    Just ordered the G700. It was definitely more than a little pricey ($78 shipped), but I really wanted a wireless gaming mouse, and this one seemed to be the best reviewed of the few wireless gaming mouses out there. Can't wait to try it out!
     
  21. jrwingate6

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    Other than cord getting in your way, you won't notice a difference. Wireless technology has came far enough to where you no longer notice any type of lag. Other than the mouse not being comfortable to your grip, there is no flaw with the G700. It tracks perfectly on everything I've tried so far. It's buttons give a nice tactile feedback and there's plenty for all of your Macro's.

    I will give you some advice. When your not gaming, turn the poling rate all the way down. You don't need a high poling rate during normal PC tasks. If you keep it at 1000 the entire time, it will kill your battery fast. I just made two profiles. One for gaming and one for everything else.
     
  22. Captain Razer

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    another satisfied customer...
     
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    I fail...I just ordered the Naga...Star Wars edition...
     
  24. MCJD4ever

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    Thanks for the advice guys!
     
  25. jrwingate6

    jrwingate6 Notebook Deity

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    Eh...The Naga is a different type of mouse. I would say it's a full blown RPG mouse where the G700 is more of a hybrid mouse. Mix of FPS and RPG.
     
  26. houstoned

    houstoned Yoga Pants Connoisseur.

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    Mastershroom wat

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    If you enjoy the mouse, then you didn't fail. :p
     
  28. houstoned

    houstoned Yoga Pants Connoisseur.

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    spoken like a true boss shroom!
     
  29. MCJD4ever

    MCJD4ever Notebook Consultant

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    The Naga mouse looks awesome too, especially the SW version! I don't believe it's wireless (correct me if I'm wrong), and that was my main necessity.
     
  30. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    The SWTOR mouse and Naga Epic edition are both wireless. The regular Naga and the Hex edition are wired only.
     
  31. MCJD4ever

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    Ah gotcha. Yeah I didn't really consider that one due to its price.

    On a side note, there's only one G700 left in stock on Amazon! When I bought it yesterday, they had like 20!
     
  32. beggerboi

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    a little update

    I bought the thermaltake black laser mouse (4000 dpi) for 36 dollars from ncix the day i posted this thread, shipped next day.

    I like the feel of it, like my old mouse cm sentinel advanced, it is a palm grip mouse, just the way i like it

    only disadvantage is that it only goes up to 4000 dpi, im used to 5600 for normal use and rts (wc3 and sc2), and 4500 for bf3. oh well, i guess ill settle with lowered sensitivitiy.

    i do recommend this mouse tho