do you store battery in a fridge?

don't know if it's a good idea or not

 

You can, (I never have)
See this guide..very helpful:
Notebook Battery Guide
Prolonging your Battery’s Life (from above guide)
• Calibrate your battery with a full discharge every 30 charges to help the battery’s fuel gauge remain accurate. Run the battery down to the automatic cut-off point of your notebook before recharging.
• Avoid repetitive and regular full discharges. Li-Ion batteries will lose less charge capacity when partially recharged. Recharging at a 10 to 20% charge level is recommended.
• Disconnect the battery and store it in a cool, dry place. The optimal charge level is 40% for prolonged storage. Storing the battery with a low charge will result in permanent damage or battery failure.
• If you store your battery in a refrigerator, use a sealed plastic bag to keep moisture out. Allow the battery to warm to room temperature before using or recharging it.

Hope that helps!

Cin...

 

I did on my old Averatec when the screen hinge started having issues (stopped using it on-the-go). I would advise wrapping it in a dry towel and sealing it in a ZipLock bag before putting it into the fridge. Also, make sure you let it warm up to room temperature before you use it.

 

thanks for the awnsome guide, very comprehensive.

 

Just let it warm up to room temp and you should be fine.

IMHO though, placing batteries in the fridge unless they're obscenely old is pointless.

 

just found a seller who sells cheap batteries, with a massive saving. but the cost of shipping them to Australia in expensive, just wondering if it is wise to buy them in bulk? if i leave them in new condition, how fast do they deteriorate? Do they become useless over time even if i don't use them?

 

It's always a bad idea to buy extra batteries unless you're going to get use out of them. They will just lose charge over time anyhow.

 

When I bought my first lappy my XPS 1530, I bought a 9cell and 6cell battery together at time of purchase. Because the cost savings was nice at that time. I used the 9 cell as my primary battery, and the 6cell as my "out and about" battery ~ more for portabilty, etc.

If you think you are going to be using the batteries, and not letting them "sit" for a very long period of time ~ then that investment is up to you. But, as HT said..all batteries do deteriorate over time.

Also, you also have to watch "who and where" you are buying batteries from for your laptop. Sometimes, that incredible "deal" you are getting...could end up doing some harm to your laptop.

Cin...

 

Extra batteries are never a "bad idea." Especially since batteries have a habit of failing just when you need them most. I can't tell you how many times I've gone out to shoot photos or video with a low charged primary battery (I thought it was enough) and was saved by my backup battery--it happened just this weekend.

I recommend having at least one spare battery for any and every portable device you own--including your laptop! Unless portability is just an added convenience, and you're someone who never strays far from a power outlet, I'd include a badckup battery as part of my devices overall purchase price.

In portable devices, it's just something too valuable to take for granted.

 

Yeah, but at $80-$120 a pop, it's kind of a waste if you really don't need it, and they don't keep too well on the shelf for extended periods. I have a power inverter in my car if I ever need it, and I can always hook up to a power outlet.

Like in the case of my M11x, the battery is a pain in the butt to get access to (10 screws), but you really don't need to ever access it until you need to change it probably in 18 to 24 months.

 

these guy i'm buying from is trustworthy, he is selling me genuine lenovo x200 tablet 8 cell battery for 40 us dollars, i bought many things off him before

 

I have great problem on my batteries of my laptop, usually it shortens the power life, and with this I really need to buy an extra battery just in case I am on travel. I have doubts on putting my batteries into a fridge, in which I never meet someone who have been practicing this.

 

Aren't car batteries susceptible to the same slow death as your laptop battery? A batteries shelf life is not a valid reason for not purchasing one any more than the eventual obsolescence of your laptop. As for the expense, you can likewise liken that to insurance which it is. The value of which depends on the level of portability your laptop goes through.

Like the brain glitched configuration of the Macbook, that's an issue more directed towards poor design, and little to do with the logic behind have a spare/backup battery. Most intelligent manufacturers know better than to create a notebook with a seal (or hard to access) battery.

 

That's because in most consumer use applications it's not practical. However, if you had a large volume of battery, storing them in a cool dry place, could save you a lot of money.

 

Car batteries are lead-acid and not Li-Ion. Plus would you buy a new car battery when you bought your car "just in case"? No. You'd just buy a new battery when yours died. It's one thing if you have $10 worth of AA batteries lying around "just in case" but another to spend $80-$120 on a battery that you may never need, or in a few years time but by then it's probably lost 20-30% of its charge too.

No manufacturer recommends removing your battery when used with AC power or while gaming anyhow. There'd be big red stickers or at least something the owners manual and there is none.

Now if you need the extended portable use that an extra battery will provide, by all means, buy an extra. It's needed then.

 

The storage recommendations for a Li-Ion battery are to charge it to 40% and store in a cool dry place. Sealed in a fridge is good but not in the freezer.

 

I tried this before just to see if it would work(w/ phone batt)

 

This argument is tantamount to buying insurance: It always appears as an unnecessary expense until you need it. The amount you have and cost depends on how likely you are to need it. As for the car battery being of a different type, that wasn't my point. Rather, that regardless of type of use, ALL batteries have a limited shelf life.

It would appear that you got my point after all.

You might want to buy those spares by the dozen.

 

Your right, I can't fully be sure if it's working will testing only one batt. I would need 2 batts to compare.

 

Again, does not make sense. You can't buy insurance after the fact, but you can buy a battery. I'd say in 99.9% of circumstances, a battery does not just "die" on you. It has signs of dying, and usually slowly degrades. Sure you may have a once in a great while episode where you *WISH* you had an extra battery, but in most cases you can just plug in, or just deal with it. Heck a car power inverter is a small investment that makes more sense to me, because it's universal and costs a lot less, that you can use to charge your laptop or use it plugged in.

Small electronic devices like a camera you'll most likely use two batteries, makes sense, and I do. But they're also quite cheap and simple to just constantly swap out so they get charged on a regular basis. Plus you can't just plug in a camera without a battery and use it. Laptop batteries you can't plug into the wall and keep them smart-charged like they should be.

I only make this argument because earlier you said to just take the cost of an extra battery into account when you buy a new laptop as a general statement for everyone. I don't agree with this. Only do it if you feel you'll be using it. Otherwise buying a spare battery doesn't make any sense if its just going to sit. You also have to make the frequent conscious effort to recharge the spare battery on a regular basis. Of course the choice is yours, but I'd hate to see people thinking it's ok to buy a spare battery and expect it to just work when they go to use it.

 

In truth, the list of reasons you can come up with to not invest in a second battery can be endless. But to say that it doesn't make sense is a bad choice of words, since the list of reasons to the contrary can be just as significant. It all depends on how and where you use your laptop. In addition, it is still a portable device!

On the contrary, my video camera plugs into the wall quite nicely thank you. Even so, I still carry an extended-life backup battery for it.

Incorrect. All batteries have this capability.

Hmm, when the question is stated in that backwards manner you're right. But that's not how you win an argument...Capt. Kirk!

True, but all your cons are secondary and do not invalidate my point. In car analogy, a spare tire in your trunk adds weight, cost, and also needs to be regularly maintained. But it didn't take long before people realized that it's better to have one than to gamble they will never get a flat. Still, I'll admit that if you never venture out of the city, or go far from home, it is very possible for you to drive for years without the worry of not having one.

I believe I made that point abundantly clear from the start. Now then, can we move on?

 

Yes, but you disntinctly said that every user should consider the price of a spare battery with their purchase including laptops. That's what I think is a bad piece of advice.

You said camera, not video camera. My camera and most others can't be used while plugged into a wall, at least mine can't. Plus a camera is different and most cases needs to be unplugged for where you're taking photos. Either way, I'm talking about laptops and not cameras. Two different beasts anyhow.

Laptop batteries can be plugged into the wall apart from its laptop? That's new to me.

I was willing to move on but you keep changing your answer or dancing around it. A spare tire is a bad analogy again. You can be stranded somewhere that you can't get help or its not safe without a tire, and risk having you and your three children hiking along a 10 mile road before you can get help. Without a laptop battery you're just inconvenienced, unless you're Jack Bauer or something.

I was just trying to point out that it is not a good idea for everyone to consider the price of an extra battery with a laptop. Obviously if you need it buy it, but that's for a small majority, not everyone.

I've said my piece, and I'm done. Congratulations you can have the last say and feel proud of yourself. Pat yourself on back but don't let the boot leave a print on the back of your jeans on the way out.