laptop mouse for gaming

what is GOOD mouse?

i've noticed a diff between wired and wireless mice. my low end optical logitech wired mouse beats my wireless nano receiver laser logitech mouse with a much higher dpi by a mile. hard to explain what makes wired better, im not sure if its because of better responsiveness, more accurate, i think most likely its the way/rate in which they accelerate the cursor i think. when i move my cursor to a small button i will always get it dead on in 1 try with a wired mouse, and will always miss using a wireless and have to backtrack or redirect the cursor. And for some reason all wireless mice have a default higher cursor movement speed unless the mouse comes bundled with external software that regulates the mouse itself. i use the touchpad 50% of the time so it gets very annoying to chance the sensitivity every time.

haven't tried out the high end wireless gaming mice, so im not sure if they can behave like a wired one. but if they can, please give me some purchase suggestions.

i dont care about fancy features and lights like logitech g8 and g9, it just needs to be dead accurate and responsive. i been using the antique logitech g3 laser gaming mouse and it has never disappointed me. i bring my laptop to school everyday so i need a wireless mouse that can perform just as good as a wired mouse.

thanks in advance

 

Razer Orochi or Logitech G700 are the two I will recommend if you want a wireless platform but a gaming-grade mouse. The Logitech Darkfield Wireless ones aren't too shabby either.

 

So, all of the stuff that you mentioned about responsiveness / accuracy is based on two things:

1) The polling rate. This is how often your computer receives information from the mouse in terms of its position. This is stated in either Hz (higher the better) or ms (lower the better). Typical mice out-of-the-box are 125Hz / 8ms. This includes wired mice when you use default Microsoft drivers, many wireless mice, and all Bluetooth mice. When you start using higher-end wired and wireless mice with the manufacturer's drivers, you start getting polling rates that go up to 1000Hz / 1ms.

2) The accuracy of the sensor. Some imaging / laser / optical sensors are better than others.


Now, I've posted in many other threads about how awesome I think the Logitech G700 is when it comes to being a mouse. It is capable of very high DPI, 1000Hz polling rates, lots of configurable buttons and macros, and always operates at full performance in wired or wireless mode.

But it sounds like you do not need all of that.

If you want a simple recommendation:

1) Wired mouse: Logitech G500. It is based off of the Logitech G5, which is based off of the Logitech MX518. Each member of the Logitech G500 heritage was legendary for providing incredibly accurate, smooth mousing motions in a no-frills comfortable mouse. Every penny you pay for in this mouse goes towards mouse features that directly make this mouse a better mouse. Not a penny goes to useless shiny crap like LED's or gold-plated USB connectors (useless), or crazy "g4M3rZ" brand imaging and marketing.

2) Wireless mouse: Logitech Performance MX. It is based on a long lineage of "office productivity" mice from Logitech, including the Logitech Revolution MX. The specs on this mouse are a little lower than "gaming" grade mice... ~1800dpi, and 125Hz USB polling. But this mouse is SMOOTH, because of the imaging sensor they use in it. The darkfield imaging sensor is so precise, you can even use it on glass surfaces. I have used a LOT of mice, including several gaming-grade mice with crazy specs and awesome features. But I still cannot get over just how incredibly smooth and accurate this mouse is, under any condition in any environment. If you just want one mouse to buy for comfort and incredibly smooth mousing motion, and be confident that you made an excellent choice, get the Logitech Performance MX.

 

For sheer portability, I recommend the Orochi. Very comfortable despite its compact size. Comes with a carrying case as well.

It connects wirelessly via Bluetooth or wired via a detachable 3-foot USB cable. Bluetooth mode is great for portability and convenience, but keep in mind that you'll need to plug it in to get the full performance out of this mouse; in Bluetooth, it's limited to 2,000 DPI and 125Hz polling/8ms response (not very good for gaming). When you plug it in, you can use up to 4,000 DPI and 1,000Hz polling/1ms response, on par with other high-end gaming mouse.

It runs on a pair of regular AA batteries, so you can change them pretty easily. And even if you run out of battery with no spares, the wired mode still works without batteries.

 

The G700 has a 1000Mhz polling rate (although I usually game at 500 to reduce CPU and mouse battery usage) and is as responsive as any other gaming mouse out there, but it is pretty expensive and the battery doesn't last all that long. However, I would say that it is still well worth it.

 

i heard the orochis battery life is VERY bad tho, could die in less than a week on heavy usage

 

Well considering the G700 won't last much more than a day, a week sounds like a fair amount of time for a "gaming" mouse.

 

I use mine in Bluetooth mode for a couple hours a day on most weekdays. It's been about 6 months since I put in a fresh pair of AA's and they're still working. I think a week is pretty extreme exaggeration unless you leave it on and moving 24/7.

 

I just got the R.A.T. 7. I have been using wireless mice forever, but just got tired of the batteries, etc. Anyway, I would recommend the one I mentioned because it is comfortable, highly programmable, accurate, and of great quality. It looks pretty bad too if your into that sort of thing.

 

My vote is for the Logitech G500.
I originally got one for my desktop quite a while ago as a regular mouse (I wanted the larger size, the nice buttons, the useful "click or free scroll" scroll wheel, and the multi DPI settings that are saved on the mouse itself. it has a ton of extra features, but I don't want to ramble on) and when I got myself a laptop I just used it with my laptop very happily, I do use it for gaming, and it is great.

I have actually used the mouse for pretty much everything I do (even on the odd computer build/ repair in my house -especially when I am setting up garbage picked P4 machines for my family to use). I once spilled soda on my G500 while using it with a desktop (well I was actually reaching for the mouse really fast, knocked the tall glass cup over, then the cup shattered when it hit the G500, thus spilling soda all over my G500 and keyboard. All I had to do was disassemble it and wipe out this built in "gutter" of sorts in the G500, then everything worked just fine -very well built and designed mouse)


Actually I'm using it now with my laptop, it is simply amazing (you should defiantly "go wired" as it were, well worth the minor inconvenience of the cord -plus when you lose your mouse, you can easily find it by the cord that is sticking out from the side of a couch cushion )

 

the performance mx revolution seems like good sht. i like the standard desktop mouse size for comfort and controllability and the wireless. it looks very nice too. and rechargeable mice r something i've always wanted. the shape of it looks very comfortable to hold. but the logitech website doesnt reveal the specs of this thing. does this mouse "feel" the same as if u were using a wired mouse?

how does "darkfield laser" stack up against "gaming grade laser" anyways?

 

I don't know about the non gaming logitech wireless mice other than the MX610 and 620 that I have owned, but they definitely do not feel quite as responsive as wired mice; there is just something not quite right when compared with my G700 (which makes sense, considering it costs over twice as much). My G700 feels completely identical when plugged in as when not, except for the annoying cord hindering my movement (which is why I hate wireless mice). The only thing that would notify you that it is indeed a wireless mouse is the fact that it needs to be charged.

 

^ ya thats what i mean, theres just something not right about non gaming wireless mice but i cant explain. i dont think its about dpi or polling, its just something else. all the mice r 30-50 dollars more expensive in canada....almost everything is more expensive...crap economy

 

I use a Logitech G9x gaming mouse which is really good. It's a flat mouse not like other ordinary mouse that pushes your hand forward. Check my sig.

 

I would vouch with you in support but I went through three G9x's in one month and all of them had problems, problems, problems. Sorry, but they seem rubbish for the money.

I would suggest the G500 over it and you save $10 in the pocket. However, I found myself loving the Deathadder over the G500 in both reliability and feel.

If you want to go wired, I'd say the Deathadder or the G500. If you still opt for wireless, I would still Vouch on the safer side, the G700.

The Darkfields I heard were good for multiple surface use but in terms of their dpi, they are still limited to 800 as others are saying. If you want gaming and wireless, Razer Orochi, Mamba and Logitech G700 are the only few that comes to mind.

 

I have had both the Razer Mamba and Logitech G9. I sold my Mamba and stuck with my G9. I prefer wired mice for desktop gaming. For portability, I use a Logitech Anywhere MX.

 

If you are a hardcore gamer and care about ergonomics of the mouse, the logitech anywhere mx may not be for you as it is kinda on the small side. Although I think it is just an amazing high quality mouse that you should get anyway.

 

I suggest looking into the Logitech m705, if you want a purely laptop mouse. It's laptop sized (although bigger, for a laptop mouse) and made to travel with your laptop. It's also very accurate, has good battery life, has all the buttons a gamer needs (without those excessive, gaudy buttons) and has Logitech's excellent, weighty aluminum scroll wheel which does a great job at adding a distinct feeling of quality to the mouse.

Oh, and Logitech's product warranty is probably the best in the business.

 

Yeah. Me myself experienced problems. That's why logitech replaced it with a new one. But my brother's g9x did not experience any problems. Just luck.

 

+1 to the G9X.

Only mouse that has prevented carpel tunnel pain in my hand and I've tried many, many types.

 

oh i see....just that i think the g9x is a little bit lacking in the aesthetics department, even tho i made no mention abt aesthetics in my initial post lol. any good mouse with an adjustable cord? i wudnt mind wired if the length was adjustable

 

What do you mean by lacking aesthetics?

 

oh, well not lacking, but the looks r just not to my tastes, looks kinda...too robotic kinda. for example the rat7 is a mouse i wud never buy because i dont like the looks of it. the performance mx is an example or a mouse that looks a lot more pleasing to me. dont worry im just weird

 

All mice look the same when they are under your hand. But I guess everyone has different priorities.

As for me... if I had a mouse that performed well and was comfortable, I wouldn't care what it looked like. And I would personally NEVER sacrifice either performance or comfort for appearance. That is why I have a very negative reaction to mice that have flashy LED's - you are paying for a feature that is purely aesthetic, and provides absolutely no value to the performance or comfort.

The Cyborg R.A.T. 7 is the most comfortable mouse I have used (and it will be the most comfortable mouse you use too, because of its customizable fit and weight). But I would not buy it again, because the imaging sensor and software are sub-par compared to what Logitech offers. I do not care one bit how it looks, because all mice look the same when they are under your hand.

I really like the Logitech Performance MX, because it's comfortable, has excellent mousing motion, and has an excellent imaging sensor. It is a great all-around mouse, but lacks a lot of the high-end features that may appeal to gamers like high DPI sensor, high USB polling rates, lots of customizable buttons with macros, multiple configurable onboard profiles, etc. Again, I do not care about how it looks, because all mice look the same when they are under your hand.

 

Similarly, the G700 really has no traits that would indicate that it is a gaming mouse; it is fairly plain and black, and the only LEDs on it are completely functional for indicating DPI/profile/battery information. However, it is very comfortable and performs very well for a gaming mouse without any "pulsating LEDs" or anything unnecessary.

 

i know looks shudnt matter, thats y i said im weird lol.

the g700 would sound the most apppealing, but its pure plain black looks like a piece of charcoal LOL. To me the performance mx seems the most probable buy for me, jus waiting for a sale price or something. 120 dollars at regular price is too expensive to me at the moment. it looks similar to the g700 except its got a little bit of silver mix to it and looks sleeker.

how much better r these mice compared to the logitech m505? i saw one on sale at futureshop today for only 30 bucks. unfortunately i rarely ever see gaming mice go on sale.

 

All mice look the same when they are in your hand.

Every dollar you spend on the Logitech G700 goes towards making the mouse a better gaming mouse. Higher DPI. Higher USB polling rates. Lots of customizable buttons. Customizable onboard profiles.

Look closely at mice marketed towards "g4M3rZ". They try to convince you that flashy LED's and gold-plated USB connectors somehow turns a mouse into a "g4M3rZ" mouse. When I buy a mouse, I buy a mouse based on performance and comfort, because those two things actually matter to me when I'm playing games. When I'm playing games, how a mouse looks or how many colored LED's it has doesn't help me one bit in my actual gameplay.

$120? Where do you live?

There is a very good reason why the Logitech G700 was repeatedly recommended on this thread. And it isn't because of the way it looks.

If all you care about is how a mouse looks, then buy a Razer mouse. If you actually care about how a mouse performs, then listen to what everybody is telling you and get the Logitech G700.

How much better is a Ferrari than a Toyota Camry?

If you're just a casual driver and just drive to work and the grocery store, there won't be much of a difference, and the Ferrari won't be worth the money. But if you care about cars, then the difference is night and day.

Just like mice. If you're a casual gamer or user, then the Logitech G700, Performance MX, and M505 will all be the same to you. But if you care about how your mice actually perform, then the difference will be night and day.

Unless, of course, you still insist on buying a mouse based on how it looks. If that is still the case, then the Logitech G700, Performance MX, and M505 will all be the same to you, because they all look about the same.

 

Which looks like a better video card? Hint: It's the bottom card.





The top card is an ATI Radeon 5830, which costs around $170. The bottom card is a Geforce GTX580, which costs around $500 and absolutely wipes the floor with the 5830 in every way possible. The shiny flashy red fan and colored LED's on the ATI Radeon 5830 doesn't do squat for performance. Don't be fooled by apperances.

All video cards look the same when they are installed in your PC case. It is the performance that matters. Just like how all mice look the same in your hand. It is the performance that matters.

 

The m505 doesn't seem to be a gaming mouse at all.

Are you seriously considering getting a non gaming mouse instead of a high performance gaming mouse that costs EXACTLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY simply because it looks slightly better? Considering you wanted a laptop mouse FOR GAMING, that would be a royally stupid thing to do. The G700 may be simple looking, but it is powerful where it matters.
Going with the car analogy: The G700 is like a BMW M3 - it may looks like a normal consumer product, but has a much higher degree of performance. The performance MX is more like a lexus; it is slow and has poor handling when compared with an M3, but it still costs a fair amount of money.
The G700 aesthetically looks fine; its just not obnoxious like some other "gaming" mice.

Additionally the MX mice have the sensor off to the side while the G700 has it right in the middle of the bottom towards the front of the mouse, where it should be. I have an MX620 and this strange off kilter sensor placement throws off my mouse control significantly, especially with small movements (where I am only trying to rotate the front of the mouse slightly).

 

i live in ontario canada, everything is more expensive in canada coz of its shtty economy.

well to me the performance mx looks much better than g700, a fairly decent looking mouse to me. its also got good praise on its performance as well by u guys. thats y im waiting for a chance to get it at a better price.

looks isnt the only thing i care abt, but it does matter to me, just a personal thing. not quite as important as performance but i still care. one thing that i dont care at all about are "features" such as customizable buttons, for even if my mouse had them i wudnt use them. i dont like to rely on things that arent offered in standard equipment

 

this is totally irrelevant, a video card goes inside your case and is never seen. while a mouse is out in the open. u may not see it while it is in ur hands, but ur hands r not forever glued to the mouse. a mouse, especially one used for laptop purposes, will even go beyond the walls of ur house and outside, others will see it too. u can argue that looks dont matter for a mouse, but using a desktop video card as an analogy is totally off

 

oh, i didnt know the g700 was so much better than the mx performance. but like i said, i dont care about buttons as i dont rely on them. i only want "1" custom button, and i program it to "backspace" command so make internet browsing more convenient so i can easily go back to the previous page. its my browsing habit, i use back a lot. but ya, i dont use those buttons for gaming.

 

Trust me, once you have a ton of buttons you will realize how useful they are. For regular use I have 2 for forward and back, 1 for pause (for music listening) and one for document flip, as well as 2 for DPI switching. In FPS's I have one button for sprint, one for knife, one for spotting (In BC2), and the same two for DPI adjustment. In TF2 I have each weapon bound to a side button so I can switch weapons very accurately and quickly without moving either of my hands from where they need to be. The G700 doesn't only provide more features, but also less lag. The performance MX has a maximum polling rate of 125 Hz, or 8 ms in between polls. The G700 goes all the way up to 1000 Hz (or 1 ms), but I usually keep it at 500, since 1000 doesn't seem anything different. Likewise, I could probably get away with using the 333 mhz option, but using the 125 hz option produces noticeably less precision and immediacy than with higher settings. Since you wanted a wireless mouse that functioned like a wired mouse, THIS is what you should be worried about, not looks. In all honesty there is very little that the performance MX offers that the G700 doesn't except for the "darkfield sensor" and that silver strip.

 

^ this. Definitely this.

 

what's the battery life on the G700?

 

On super-high DPI and USB polling rate settings, about 3 days.

It uses a single AA Sanyo Eneloop rechargeable battery. Recharging can be done via included USB cable. The USB cable carries both power and data, so it can be used to recharge the mouse and/or use the mouse in wired mode.

Alternatively, you can swap out the included battery with any AA battery, and the mouse will continue to function.

 

seems like i`ll b getting the g700 then, its 20 bucks cheaper anyways. 100 bucks is the current sale price.

 

btw thx a lot guys

 

Buy US. I live in Ontario too and everything I own including clothes are from the US. Technology purchases you'll save 20-50% and for clothes 50%! Canada is a gigantic rip off and if I could buy groceries in the US I would, but it's not worth the trips
Ebay is a nice place to check for new gaming mouses too btw. That's where I got mine.

 

so u drive to buffalo or something?

 

Niagara Falls, NY for items that ship US-only.

Ebay-US for everything else.

You'll save a ton

 

whats NY? amazon.COM has a way larger variety at way lower prices than amazon.CA

 

Niagara Falls, New York. Takes 5 minutes to get in from Niagara Falls, Ontario.

 

unfortunately it takes forever for me to get to niagra, a lot faster for u prob since ur sauga. i'll jus stick to ebay or something

 

Yeah, ebay for small purchases such as a mouse is fine. You generally don't get charged any fees when importing small electronics from the US.

If you happen to buy Canadian, just remember the tax rule. If the seller is in the same province as you, ebay will charge you taxes, so either buy from outside province or US.

If it's a big purchase such as a laptop/desktop/tv, etc., then it's worth the trip to niagara to pick it up