logitech g5 vs razer DB vs razer CH

i've been reading reviews on newegg and amazon, but i was just wondering what you guys here at NBR think about these mice vs each other. pros? cons? which one you think is best?

 

I like the Razer DB myself, have had no problems with mine and loving every minute of it. The CH is a nice alternative if you crave more DPI. I have never used a G5 but it looks to bulky for my tastes. I like the long slender body of the Razers.

 

Well, I do own the G5, and while it is great, the only flaw I can really think of is that I wished it had the extra thumb button instead of one. But, I do have to admit, the weight set and adjustable sensitivity on the fly are very useful for gaming. But, still wished it had that extra button.

Never owned or seen the razors in person, but for gaming the Copperhead (by looking at the specs) seems to be the winner. But, I doubt you will see much difference between the two specs.

 

thanks for the response! also, all games have sensitivity settings, but are these game settings affected by the mouse dpi settings itself? i don't quite understand how these laser mice with dpi changes on the fly do exactly. finally, i've noticed that you are supposed to uninstall previous mice drivers before installing software/drivers for these mice, but does that hold true if the only mouse i use right now is a Targus kaleidescope "plug and play" notebook mouse that came with nothing but the mouse (no drivers)?

 

If you haven't used a Razer or a Logitech gaming mouse before, I suggest you to try them both out first before keeping it for good (buy it from somewhere that has 15/30 days return policy).

I play FPS games and previously I used Razer Viper and I loved it. At first it took some time to get used to it but after that the mouse wasn't an obstacle. After I got my laptop, I couldn't install the razer software on it properly so I got a logitech G5 (wasn't long back). As of now, I'm still getting used to it.

So just try them both, keep the one you like/suits you best!

 

the razor's are designed for both left and right handed people so its a very, uh....symmetrical design? while the g5 is designed for right handed people so it has like a thumb rest kinda indent. go to like best buy or somewhere where they are on display to get a feel of it.

 

When I was buying my new mouse for the system in my signature, I looked at both the G5 and Copperhead seriously. I read the reviews, looked at the spec sheets, and even asked around on the forums. But I didn't really know until I went to Best Buy and put my hand on both of them.

Here's my impression: the G5 feels smaller than the Razor in size, and the side button is easy to access. So you could bind it to reload, or jump, or crouch, or whatever in FPS and put it to good use. If you don't play FPS, then slap yourself silly for even thinking about spending $50 on a gamer mouse. The Razor on the other hand feels much wider, and forces the front part of your hand to be raised above the roof of the mouse. I believe that this would provide a boost to the accuracy and performance in FPS in the short term. However, the position feels as if it would cramp your hand up something awful in the long run. All the other features are pretty much irrelevant, like the adjustable weights or the adjustable accuracy are pretty much gimmicks. I'm sure if you get used to them, they would provide a subtle advantage in gaming.

So which one did I go with?

Neither! For some reason they just didn't feel like mice I'd want to use for a long time. I chose the MS Intellimouse Optical instead, with two easily reachable and large side buttons. I bind reload to the left side and crouch to the right. Works like a charm, and more than accurate enough for even the most hectic of games. The best part is, MS has included full integrated support for the Intellimouse series in the Windows OS, and I can use all of the buttons without any compatibility or driver issues whatsoever. The left side button works as Back in both IE and FF, right side buton as Forward. Scroll wheel is click-able and feels just right when I do scroll---it actually stops at each stage of the scroll if you know what I mean. Best part? $25 for the mouse, and I paid it with an Amazon gift certificate and just qualified for free shipping on the price!

 

thanks guys! i'll go check'em both out at Best buy when i get home for winter break. i'm leaning towards the G5 because ive been reading about a lot of software issues with the razers.

 

Changing DPI settings on the fly is useful for normal use and gaming. I click up a setting when playing FPS games, and use a lower setting when I'm on the internet or using basic applications.

I have the G7, and do wish that it had the "forward" thumb button. Other than that I've been quite happy with it. I personally like the "taller" feel of MS mice, but lately Logitech has been making better fits for my personal taste. After all, that's what it all boils down to.

Good luck.

 

I made a post here about a very good set of mouse benchmarks just a while ago - here's the link to the article: ESReality MouseScore 2007

It's the first objective benchmark I've seen of mouse performance anywhere; all the mice you're considering are evaluated.
It's a bit more geared towards low-sensitivity gamers who need to move the mouse extremely fast; but the results are valid for all users. One very interesting result was that laser mice across the board tended to malfunction at lower speeds than optical ones - which means even though their DPI might be higher, if you play at low sensitivities they might not cut it.

As far as specific recommendations go - as people have already mentioned, ergonomics have a lot to do with it. I've used an MX500 extensively; the Razers are symmetric which is good for lefties, but I find the 'sculpted' form of the Logitech mice a lot more comfortable.

You might even want to consider the MX518 over the G5 - it's got two thumb buttons, which beats the single one on the G5; it's 1600 DPI is not all that much lower than the 2000 on the G5; it's got a higher malfunction speed according to the benchmark, and it's cheaper, too! Of course, it doesn't have adjustable weights or on-the-fly sensitivity changing, but if I were buying a gaming mouse today the MX518 would be it.

 

I have the CH and i must say its good when it works as it should, The problem is sometimes it randomly on restarts/booting up isnt detected so you to un-plug it in and out which then causes windows to use its own drivers.

I have set the BIOS to allow usb mice etc and updated firmware on the mouse still nothing and i read its not just mine its a problem with others at times too so id get a DB or G5 more likely the G5 as its newer and betetr dpi as i recall that is 2000 same as the CH

 

thanks guys!

 

RTS games require micro/macro and when actions per minute are a reflection of skill in most cases you need to be able to adjust your mouse down to the single DPI. the g5 is what i recommend after personal use and trying out the razer as well at best buy.

 

I have the rz diamenback on my family desktop and its prety good Also bought a g5 for my laptop for christmas . The g5 is way better. Its more comforteble, has weights, adjustible dpi settings. Imo it also looks better. Tho the color led s in therazor are cool to.

 

It really depends on what your hand likes. I've got a G7, after a few years of using a Microsoft Intellimouse, the G7 feels much more natural. My friend owns the G5, and it, too, is comfortable. However, I found that with the G7, palm sweat sometims becomes an issue, although the G5's "matte" finish will negate this issue. Go in to Futureshop or Besy Buy and try them out.

 

great input guys!

 

I still stick by my diamondback. I got it today and can't use anything else anymore. Its very comfortable for me to use, as I have long skinny fingers and thats the way the mouse is made, allowing me to use those to my advantage. I just happen to prefer the build of the Razers better, not to mention LEDs are cool too. But at the end of the day, it all comes down to what you are most comfortable with, who cares what model it is.