mice(i know a bit general)

I have been looking for a long time at mice, I really have no idea what to buy at this point.

Currently, I have an hp wireless comfort mouse. It's cheap but works really well and is very comfortable.
I want a better mouse, preferably an optical mouse and one comfortable in a rather odd palm grip.

I have been looking at:
Razer Deathadder
Mionix Naos
R.A.T mice
a new comfort mouse.

Not to say i'm not open to other ideas, throw some opinions about these mice or suggest another.

THanks
~TK141

 

I suggested the Cooler Master Spawn in another thread, but it's one to consider. It's a claw mouse and works for all but the biggest of hands, tracks well, better than many of the >5000dpi laser mice IMO - but has fixed dpi increments you can't change. One advantage of the mouse with a notebook is that it's not huge so can travel in a bag quite easily if you find somewhere for the cable to go. It's also budget in terms of price and seems to have no obvious build-quality drawbacks even for the money.

Ultimately mouse comfort is a highly personal issue. You'll have to try a few yourself to see what *really* works for you.

 

I've heard good things about Steel Series.

SteelSeries North America - Mice

 

I have the Razer Orochi.
It's a nice Bluetooth mouse with 2 extra buttons on each side, a little bit small, not recommended if you have big hands

 

I would caution against the ikari.. They have faulty buttons which may give up soon causing erratic double clicking.. A fact that I had to learn through first hand experience.. :/

just google "ikari double click" to see for yourself

Apart from that, their sensors and ergonomics are usually pretty good

 

I highly recommend the DeathAdder. Very comfortable palm-grip shape, top-notch optical sensor, and good button size and placement. It also has very good perfect control speed; one of those things that isn't often advertised or disclosed, but is very important to gamers. It's my favorite wired mouse of all time.

The Logitech G400 would be another one to consider; it's similar to the DeathAdder in that it's a right-handed optical mouse with similar button layout. I'm not familiar with the sensor it uses though. Similar price, too.

I would avoid the R.A.T. based on complaints about the reliability of its sensor and software, and it seems to be more of a claw-style mouse even with all the adjustments.

 

I bought a naos for home, fell in love with it enough to get one for the office too. Great mouse for a palm gripper, the 3200 is more than enough and a lot more affordable than the naos 5000 too. The naos has a bump to place your pinky which is a huge bonus. Most logitech mice required me to leave my pinky on the mouse pad and it got uncomfortable after a while. Oh yeah, the Naos 3200 is optical and the 5000 is laser, just in case you didn't know already. The adjustable color is just icing on the cake if you have a backlit keyboard to match it to.

 

I would say never buy a mouse before you see and hold it, unless you dont mind returning it.

 

Deathadder's a good starting point for a decent palm mouse, but it doesn't quite pass the comfort test for me - given the overall shape I've always felt that the mouse buttons aren't sloped enough. Once again, this is where mice get personal.

The RAT is, as you allude, neither here nor there. The huge levels of adjustment included doesn't actually provide worthwhile actual ergonomic adjustment IMO, it ends up being a 50/50 claw/palm form factor for all but the most meatplated of hands, and the tracking is as occasionally jumpy as many other 'off-mainstream' laser mice like the Imperator. But you know, it's a hella cool thing to have on your desk, especially in white

I haven't owned a G400 though - might get one and see how it fares against the Deathadder and Spawn.

 

I am having that exact issue. I thought it was a software issue, guess I'll be looking for a new mouse.

 

Yikes, I haven't even though about the different brands and models for mice. I'm the same, with a kinda standard wireless HP mouse.

If anything though, I need to look into wireless HP keyboards.. as much as I really detest anything HP "creates".. X( aghhh

 

thanks for the help so far, any info on how ssensitive the buttons are.
I tend to rest my fingers rather heavily on the mouse, some mice do double=clicks when i don't want them to. a more syurdy click is more important tp me than sensitivity.

 

I recommend the G700 which I'm surprised no one has said. The buttons are sturdy and ergonomic ><

 

check out the logitec g700 i just ordered on for 69 bolas 13 button mouse i have read nothing but comfort reviews about how nice and spiffy it feels in ur hand and for the price come on i would totally suggest at least checking it out

 

lol i didnt notice u had suggested it right before me

 

Another vote for the G700. I got my off of eBay refurbished (sold by NewEgg) for $50-ish. It offers wireless w/tiny receiver (leave it plugged in), data-over-cable (while recharging), and if you really must maintain wireless gaming, just replace the single AA in it. I did a lot of searching before finding that the G700 had everything I wanted in a mouse (and then some...I only recently started messing with all of the settings for making up profiles on the mouse).

 

Another G700 user here. I've owned about 6 Logitech mice over the past decade and every single one of them performed flawlessly without any type of malfunction. Every mouse is better than the last. I've tried many other mice from different manufacturers and all of them got returned. Some for personal reasons like not being comfortable and others because their sensor sucked. I'm not going to name the manufacturers but you would think spending $100 or more on a mouse would give you flawless tracking. Nope, not the case at all. I also prefer Logitech mice for their portability. The USB dongle is so small, it never has to be removed when transporting and you don't have to lug around some bulky docking station in order to charge it. You just plug it in with a USB cable and use it while it's charging. Or you can carry a couple of rechargeable AA batteries and just replace as needed. This is what I do and I never have to plug it in to charge it. I just charge the AA's with a Energizer charging station. In the end, I probably won't purchase another mouse not manufactured by Logitech. Why? Because you know their mice will last the long haul, they use some of the best sensors that track on almost anything and their design is consistently comfortable to me.

 

I would add that in terms of my general experience that there hasn't been *one* comfortable mouse.

Rather, there have been a number of comfy mice, all different shapes, which I rotate. Same goes for keyboards.

Repetitive actions with the hand in the same position can still cause strain even if the mouse / keyboard is somewhere near an optimum shape for you - so it's best to mix it up. The reason I haven't got any kind of RSI despite spending a lifetime behind a keyboard and mouse is probably due to the sheer deluge of gear I've waded through - I don't have/use any *one* thing long enough for it to cause permanent damage to me.

 

Ok, so the G700 looks pretty good.
any info on how the buttons and such are on the naos?

 

I guess I should ask...are you determined to get a mouse for gaming or just for productivity? If you want a mobile mouse that still feels decent, the Logitech Anywhere MX is a very nice *mobile* mouse, however if you do some gaming and want the extra buttons/configurations for gaming, the G700 is a great gaming mouse.

 

I agree. Prior to the G700, I used the MX Performance mouse and I loved it. I used it for gaming and it did a fine job. I just wanted something with a updated sensor and a few extra buttons. The MX Anywhere is a little to small for my hands/grip but I'm sure it's just as good as the MX Performance.

 

I'm a bit of a casual gamer, some strategy games and a bit of shooter games. Not alot of stuff. I am struggling, between the g700 and the naos, a serious point on the naos is that it's less than the g700.

Any thoughts on it, i'll admit that the g700 has an advantage in buttons though. I do like the naos however.

 

Newegg.com - logitech g700
$64.99 shipped for the G700 (not sure if they charge extra for shipping to Canada though...)
http://www.amazon.com/Mionix-Naos-Wired-LED-optical-Mouse/dp/B0041SPG24
$55.02 shipped (again, not certain on Canada shipping charges)

The Naos looks nice, however IMO Logitech is far more tried and true of a brand, and for only $10 more you get wireless capability and extra buttons on a very highly recommended product. Just my .02

 

That's the first time I've ever seen Mionix. Their mice look pretty bad . I can't help but to think it looks like a Logitech design with some LED lights. I can't let the cool look and LED lights suck me in again. I've made the mistake once with a particular mouse made by a company who makes nothing but gaming periphials. I don't want to name any names due to everyone and their mother who own one coming here and attacking me for it. Luckily I purchased it from Best Buy so it was easily returnable 2 days later. I've actually strayed from Logitech a couple of times and every time, the mouse got returned.

Does Mionix make a wireless mouse or are you looking at the corded Naos? The G700 is wireless which probably makes it more expensive.

 

I use the razer abyssus as the deathadder is too big and too heavy and gives me handaches and I am a claw grip type user.

The abyssus is just 20$ and totally worth every cent.

 

I think this is the first time I've heard someone getting as headache from using a mouse.

 

Handache, not headache.

I had a deathadder for 3 months but i couldnt use it more than 2 hours as it was causing wrist fatigue as my natural posture is claw while deathadder is palm type. When I started getting cramps I did some research and realized the deathadders shape didnt suit my natural hand posture.

So be sure to know if youre a palm or claw natural posture person.

 

Oh....LOL...On the same note, I purchased a Razer Mamba (Because it looked cool) about 2-3 years ago and that thing gave me a handache within the first couple hours of use. Needless to say, I had to return it.

I was never able to figure out what kind of grip I have. It is neither palm or claw. It is somewhere in between. Either way, the only mice I've ever found to fit my grip perfect are flagship Logitech mice. Although, the NAOS looks like it would fit my grip pretty well but only because it looks like they stole some design from Logitech.

 

I normally have 3 fingers lined up straight on the abyssus which seems to what my natural posture is best suited to. Must sound weird but it's true.

 

Hmmm. Perhaps I should get a G700.

 

I've never heard of mionix, but I swear by my g700 if you want a wireless gaming mouse. I've gone through a lot of mice, mostly corded mice.

 

I've never heard of Mionix either. Is it just me or does it look like they stole their design from Logitech.

 

well the g700 looks tried and true, and its available at my local staples.
If there is any mice you would reccomend besides it then please feel free. As I said I have very limited experience with mice and just get used to what i buy.

I would get a new hp comfort mouse but the new ones look cheap and crappy in comparison to the one I have.

 

That's great man. That way, if for some reason it's not comfortable for you, you could always return it without worrying about shipping it back through the mail and waiting a couple days for the refund. Also, I don't know if you live near a Best Buy but they sell G700's too.