5920G Upgraded To...Radeon HD 4650?!

Ohhhh noooooes. Now I have to play with a blowtorch to put a MXM 3 connector in my 5920G Well, I still keep my hope for a MXM 2.1 Type II 4670 DDR3

 

It's possible that someone else could release it, or Acer makes one to try and move leftover 8x30G/7x30G stock.

 

That's what I'm counting on In the meantime, I'm looking for an under-the-hood pictures of 8935G

 

Yaaaaaay time to prepare for my laptop upgrade $$$$$ .

Holy $#!$! they ship to Venezuela but not to Mexico... . I guess Ill have to wait until these guys appear on ebay.
Ohh bad luck I guess, I was ready to pull the trigger .

 

Yeah, with more info about the GPUs (fingers crossed for 4670 )

 

Also if you look at the MSI EX it has HD4670 and its MXM II. OMG these laptops score above 7500 3dmarks! almost like an nvidia 9800GS from an ASUS GV50 with 8100 3dmarks.

EX picture:
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9256/msiex.jpg


My laptop hehehe it has MXM III :




A friend wants an MSI laptop, but he still needs $200 USD maybe Ill convice him to buy the EX and Ill give him $200 and my old card in exchange . I really want to upgrade .

 

What you expect me to say - "I want"? SUUURE I WANT

And my is MXM II Ohh, wait... yours is bigger

I was thinking the very same way quite a while, but I don't have that crazy friends

 

WEEEEEEE ALLLL WANTTTT

Mine is bigger 16inches naa but its fine . I really hope my friend takes that laptop .

 

We all want, but then again, not all of us have the scratch to pull the trigger on such an untested upgrade.
Anything beyond a Radeon HD 3650 is really uncharted waters for the Santa Rosa models.

 

I have asked a guy from this site earlier today is the HD4670 is MXM Type II, or it is MXM 3.0 Type A/B. He answered me really fast:

I need bottom pictures from 8935G REALLY bad!

 

I looked at the www.mxm-sig.org website and bear in mind that MXM 3.0 Type A and Type B modules are not compatible with previous versions of MXM cards like Type I, Type II, Type III, and Type IV cards. Note the use of alphabetic letters to describe MXM 3.0 cards and Roman numerals used to describe the types cards of older MXM versions. So an MXM version 2.1 Type III slot is not at all compatible with an MXM 3.0 Type A or Type B card. To prevent this, MXM 3.0 cards have the key, the notch, on the edge connector in a different position from other MXM versions. This is done to prevent one from accidentally installing an MXM 3.0 card in an MXM 2.1 slot. There are also more mechanical, electrical, and software differences between MXM 3.0 cards and MXM 2.1 cards that are nontrivial that make neither version compatible with each other.

A basic rundown on the technical differences between MXM 3.0 and MXM 2.1 can be found here:

http://www.mxm-sig.org/main.cfm?action=document&doc=36A88883-DFFA-E3E6-16C301BCF5633572

Expect the URL to change in time.

 

I found a link to a mobility 4670 for a 8935G:

http://www.ipc-computer.de/it-pi-n-Acer_VG_M9606_004_VGA_BD_M96_1GB_900MHZ_MXM-pId-1881717.html

and another one :

http://www.zandparts.com/acer/index.php?cPath=40886_40887_40929_76288_89636

 

btw. has anyone got some news, confirmed results ?

I´m really tempted to buy the 4650 but i would take the 4670 immediately if it was mxm 2.

I could risk buying one since in germany one can send the card back within 14days and get the money back minus 10-20% of price for usage and shipping of course.

 

Already posted, but thanks anyway

Yeah, I know this one from quite a while, but still no price

First page is all that we have

If you dare to be the first one around here to test it. For me currently upgrading the CPU has a bigger priority, as much as I want HD4650/4670 in my lappy

 

I am going to order the 4650 within the next week.

Of course I will update everybody on the progress.

 

Those are some great news I'm waiting a 8935G user to make a couple of shots of his mainboard and his GPU. If it turns out that it's MXM 2.1 Type II, I'll be more than happy and yet even more biased I have the money for the CPU, but HD4670... oh my, sooo tempting

 

Sad news guys, the GPU in 8935G uses the new connector type - MXM 3.0 Type A Now, the only hope for a MXM 2.1 Type II HD4670 is the MSI's one, and I'm praying that the vBIOS wont be a problem.

 

Hi guys, I found the ULTIMATE for us!

http://atecheu.trustpass.alibaba.co...4850_M98_M_VGA_Card_Module_Accept_Paypal.html

I can confirm, that it's a MXM II HD 4850 card - see that's insane. I might upgrade my Aspire 6920G with this one.

 

Hate to say "I told you so" but...
hang on, MXM-A? That doesn't make sense. The GTX 280M that is rumoured to be sold in certain configurations is definitely an MXM-B card.

And Kvens, that link has been posted before. Although it would be nice to have a Radeon HD 4850 on MXM-II, the fact that it has a 256-bit memory interface kind of raises the BS flag (there is NO MXM-II card that has a memory interface higher than 128-bit).

 

Yep, you read it right. From what I saw it's definitely the short one (Type A). Though I think that there is still enough space for Type B GPU in there, and Type A is just the HD4670

 

Makes sense - the 4670 is only a 128-bit card.

 

BTW MexicanSnake, do you know the part number of MSI's HD4670? I should be prepared, after the CPU upgrade it's GPU upgrading time I think that the vBIOS wont be a problem, since I've seen 3650s with HP vBIOS installed in Acers.

 

Currently I dont have it at hand but we could ask over the MSI subforum.

With my short experience exchanging MXM modules I could tell you that the Vbios isnt that important you can use different MXMs in a laptop without issues, the main problem is the laptop bios and system, many laptop vendors "lock" the system to avoid upgrades, for example in my case it happened but the system allowed me to use it in "balanced mode" and after that (and 30secs) I was able to fully use it. I used my HD3650 in an MSI barebone and it booted and posted without problems and it was running at full specs.

Btw here is a pic of my experiment (system halted before post for 30 secs)

 

Yeah, I know for this issue, I hope that it wont bother us.

 

Looking forward to see how your experiment goes

If a ddr3 4670 PWNS the 9600Gt it could be a definite upgrade choice, especially if it works in your acers, as then it should work with most acers

 

It definitely does, the question is: How much From what I'm reading it's almost on par with 9700GTS I'm currently waiting alphster to tell me the MSI's HD4670 part number (sometime at the end of the week) and keeping a close eye on the EX625's thread. It seems that it has some issues with some games, I hope that it'll be fixed and it's not hardware related

 

Yeah you're right performances should be just below 9700M GTS, something like 200 points less in 3dmarks. Still 7500 points is almost 2000 points better than my
9600M GT DDR3 with stock clocks. So a worthy upgrade...

So what now ? The only hope is MSI's HD 4670 ? I will light a candle and pray...;-)

Holy crap on a cracker, that picture of the MSI EX-625 makes me dream, that smells the holy grail !!!!

 

Just found this: http://urun.gittigidiyor.com/HD-4650-1GB-ATI-RADEON-LAPTOP-EKRAN-KARTI_W0QQidZZ18040853#aciklama

Nice picture of Acer 4650 DDR2

 

Nice find! It's probably the one that the guy from the first page had used.

 

hey boys , any news about a 4650 on acer 5920 or fujitsu siemens pi 1536/ 1556 xi /alienware...

iknow that the ati 4670 gddr3 on msi ex625 is an mxm II and have the same mxm attack of acer 5920 fsc alienware....

at the moment i have an nvidia 9600m gt gddr3 on my fujitsu 1556 and this card is pretty good for all the game, but i'want more i sure that the 4670 works also on my fujitsu but the problem where to buy an ati 4670 brandede msi, every body knows any msi parts shop in Italy germany france UK or other UE countrys.
thanks

 

I was searching quite a lot and had send quite a lot of PMs, but still nothing

 

Successful Swap to HD 4650 : http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=399430

 

One succsessful swap from me too, 4650 from 6930g fit on 5920g with its original thermal paste on it no heat issues.

 

congrats , good to hear

 

Hello from a new member.
I am thinking of changing my 8600m gt (although i have no problems with this card) of my acer aspire 5920g for a radeon hd 4650, after reading all the topics about this.
Except the ''problem'' with the heatsink which can be solved with a piece of copper to fill the gap, i understood that it is a plug n' play proccess, is that true?
(Ok, i will have to download the drivers also, but after that i will expect to play, or there are other things to do?)

I made a little search and i found a store having these cards, but there are many similar cards and codes are a little different.
Which one should do the job?
http://www.ipc-computer.eu/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=ati+radeon+hd+4650


Thank you in advance,
George.

 

Wow, that great. It is indeed a very useful source I would say. Now you did save me a lot of trouble looking for one. Thanks!!

 

You are welcome.
I would really appreciate if someone answered my questions though!

 

Actually, yeah, it is just a plug and play process. However, you should take note regarding the pre-loaded vBios. From my finding, it would be great if the card comes with Acer pre-loaded vBios. Even if it is not, ATI or MSI vBios would work just fine. However, I'm not quite sure bout any other vBios such as vBios from other manufacturers. So I leave that to the others to answer.

Since I'm new with this techy stuff too, I hope this little finding of mine would be a help.

 

Thank you for your answer.
vBios?
Now that is something new to me.
What is it and how this can affect us from plug and playing?
Even if we have to find one with preloaded acer (or ati?) vbios, that means that we have to search for the card to be a spare from another acer and not from any other laptop brand?
Any other things to know before proceeding to buy the card?