Acer 3820TG North America Purchase Options

lol i agree with you, at a normal viewing distance the display isnt that bad, not great but manageable. However, the viewing experience is not comparable to a external monitor, agreed?

 

I haven't seen that many great LCD screens on budget laptops that are comparable to an external monitors in the past 5 years. I've own several budget laptops (Sony, Acer, Dell) and almost all the screens look the same. The best laptop screen I have ever owned was on the Dell Inspiron 700m from 2003. It had the best blacks, viewing angles were the best (no fade in color from any horizontal or vertical angle), and pixels were smooth and had no hint of graininess. So, I kind of understand how you feel. That's just how most screens are these days on budget laptops, unless you spend twice as much money buying a Sony Z, etc.

 

I'm starting to appreciate the LCD on my XPS. I can look at the monitor from almost 180 degrees and the colors look fine, whereas on the 3820 the colors invert at about 130.

 

aylafan true and not true

I had an asus u30a2 before this acer and it was a budget culv laptop
and the screen was 10x better,

the issue with this acer is, that even at a normal length away the pixels are VERY visable. which is what makes it grainy

thats my only explanation

here is a pic hp envy vs acer




picture is 3.38mb

even when u start zooming in, you can see the pixels more ont he acer etc it's just how it is, a very budget laptop screeen,

 

here is one more - once you look at the ogle on google, you can see the grainyness (spelling)



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That's why I said that this problem is on most budget laptop screens. The Envy 14 is not really a budget laptop. However, I could've swore that a lot of the Asus laptops have LCD problems too, mostly the UL series.

 

oh of course..... i dont have my other one righ tnow to take a picture with

but on the ul30 a2 i thought it was a good lcd for a budget lcd,

no grainyness, vibrant colours , whites were not tinted

 

Of course, I agree with you. But that's to be expected when comparing a laptop's screen to an external monitor, right?

Riding a bicycle and motorcycle are similar in that both will get you where you're going. However, the motorcycle will get you there a lot faster, all else being equal.

 

I really like how you put together this side-by-side comparison to present your case.

Without zooming the picture, I can see a slight difference, but not enough to bother me.

When zooming the picture, it's easier to see the pixels in the Acer screen, but again, it's not enough to bother me.

Like I said, having owned the HP Envy 15 2nd Gen laptop before, I know that no other laptop screen can compare with it (at least that which I've seen to date).

I'm willing to accept the fact that the 3820TG has some strengths, but it's screen isn't one of them.

There is NO perfect laptop. Prioritize what matters to you, and then find the laptop that best satisfies those priorities.

Lingering on how a laptop doesn't satisfy you doesn't serve any useful purpose.

Just curious, but are you going to continue posting on the 3820TG's screen until everyone of us returns our laptops? While I can appreciate your customer advocacy approach, you're just reiterating something that you've said 2 days ago.

 

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It seems your all over the place advocating a few things here and there.

this is a general forum, therefore i can talk about my issue and opinion as long as i like.. or DO i need to ask you how long i can continue talking about something?

its a community to share knowledge and issues , or whatever, if you don't like it, you can ignore us or move along . easy as 1 2 3.

And yep i will continue to post it? does it bother you?

I keep reading about these throttling issues that people post on other threads, but i dont ask them how long they will continue posting about it and or if they are going to return it

like i said u don't like it, move on, ignore , U DON"T need to reply to every post someone posts or talks about, like most of us can do, we dont hit reply and quote everyone.


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its a community - doesn't please everyone.

though if more people post issues or make an awareness MAYBE something can be done? someone replacing the display, or MAYBE acer HEARING customers

who knows

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lol back to the topic now. So are there any new purchasing options for the 3820tg? there must some hidden European/Asian website out there that will ship to North america yes?

 

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If this is why you're still posting about the 3820TG's screen, then you've already lost.

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Nothing new yet.

But, I suspect finding them won't be as much a priority for most, given how PCHome as reliably and dependably delivered many 3820TGs to North America so far, at a very reasonable, cost effective price.

 

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dude do you even own an acer yet? do you physically have it in your hand

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I am posting about the issue because others have mentioned it

people ask questions and i answer


is that a problem for you?

your very active on these forums registered in 2010 and have double the post i have..

thats like me telling you,, do you mind not being so active on these forums?

seriously? lol

relax

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before pc home was brought into the picture, i had emailed a few sites in the UK - but they all had the 5470 - weird UK Canada get the 5470 versions! some of them would only accept wire transfer, which we can't risk !

 

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No not yet. But then, I'm a person who knows what's important to me and can evaluate the situation at hand.

You and a few others have issues with your laptop's screen. The rest of the community do not. I take their silence on the issue to mean 1) that you and the others are the minority when it comes to this issue; 2) everyone else may also be impacted by this issue, but not enough where they care to worry about it or mention it.

It's one thing to comment on an issue. It's another to continually take pics comparing your Acer's screen to others.

It's almost as if you feel the driving need to prove to others that you're not lying about this or making this issue up. Interesting.....

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what is interesting is, i bet you dn't even have it in hand yet, and your one to talk.
maybe you missed the post that MyOnlyStar asked to post pictures?
that is exactly what i did.
once i recieved my pchome edition , i sstated the screen was crappy
and GUESS who was there ready to stir the pot? You..
the pictures and links that i provided you were from the staples version.
Interesting that you don't have the laptop and yet you feel the need to be so active in here.

Very Interesting..


Now move along and do something else, once you get it, then you can actually see or not see what people are talking about.


EDIT: though through my issue, someone provided other " screens " from the service guide and brought awereness that other models have other screens

Did you know that? therefore through MY ISSUE, and the model numbers posted, i might be able to try a different screen IF i chose not to return it

thats what a online commmunity does HELP eachother

and really your not helping.. your stirring the pot , and to get your POST COUNT up. relax
At least i physically have it, and Can talk about it.

I dont need to sit behind a computer screen and look at pictures of people having their laptops.

all your posts are invalid if you dont' have it.

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That's great! Once you return your 3820TG to PCHome, does that mean you'll follow your own recommendation and never speak about it again?

Excellent!

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talk about bickering on the forum.

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Ultra Edit: Maybe you 2 should measure things with big tape measures

 

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LOL! Thanks for offering your opinion and not telling us to read the rest of the thread to figure it out. That wasn't so hard now, was it?

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Once i do return it, and i don't change my mind maybe. since I have owned three I am fairly qualified to talk about it, Unlike you. 0

How about you actually talk when you get it? Really.

dont' you have anything else to do, then post on here about a laptop you don't have?

it would be an excellent idea to follow your own advice .. stop talking.

once you have it, then you can have something to say .. ur remind me of little kid that got his lollipop stolen and your f'ing and crying .

Its like talking about a car you don't and telling people it drives bad, well i have the laptop, and in my opinon and some others the screen is horrible. respect what we have to say, if u dont agree move on, u can't control what we talk about or post. Who make you queen to ask someone when they will stop posting pictures. Its not your concern.

relax , we were fine posting pics and comparing pics until you starting complaining like you are PMS'ing

here is another picture just for you




EDIT: even when you get it, IF you get it, you will probably say ur screen is fabulous anyway. - but until then.. well your talkinga bout a product you don't have .

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It's clear to me now I've been debating a child who is incapable of discussing a product unless it's physically in front of him.

You're right though about the screen I get. It probably will be fabulous, since you've already gotten all the ones with issues.

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I have to hand it to PCHome. As soon as I had placed the order for the 3820TG, they had it on a 747 bound for the US.

The flight had a layover at Anchorage, Alaska, and then flew directly to JFK in New York City, where it landed Saturday morning.

From there, it's a short hop til it's in my hands.

If only some USA businesses could ship as quickly as PCHome did.

Thank you PCHome!

 

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An adult discusses things that they have knowledge of, and does not make assumptions , nor asks someone when they will stop posting about something.


Thats like talking about something you've never had, and then making a blog post about it. You can not give an opinion on something you have not had. you can say things like " oh nice design " etc, but you remind of the people that say " this is cheap build etc" but have never touched it.

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No offense meant here ... but could Lastdon please restart your display discussion in a new thread and maybe the rest of the discussion could either cease or go somewhere else as well. Both things are really cluttering up a very good and useful thread and have gone far off topic.

Bronsky

 

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Bronsky - maybe you should go back and read where things started and others should not intefere in a discussion when they don't have the notebook
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the OP asked that we post photos which we did, and some individuals started crying about it.

end of story.

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I don't care how it started ... it has hi-jacked the thread and courtesy dictates that it be discussed in a separate thread please.

Bronsky

@myonlyst4r, you might want to ask the mods to eliminate the off-topic stuff in your thread, they are usually very helpful. You have a really useful and productive thread going here ... my hat is off to you for keeping the importing alive. I lost interest once I got my unit from Computeruniverse.

 

@myonlyst4r,
I apologize for participating in a pointless debate and contributing to the off-topic conversation. Please delete my off-topic posts regarding the quality of the 3820TG's screen (but leave the rest of my relevant posts up).

Thanks.

 

I just wanted to say I appreciate the postings as I tend to notice small things like this. It has made me decide I'm going to wait and see if it makes it to the US. It seems like there is just too much variation in display quality for me to make the plunge now.


Edit: This discussion should be in the other thread though.

 

I have asked a mod to remove all these irrelevant posts. but seriously, lets keep it professional here okay?

 

I feel sorry for the mod.. LOL

damn this post is gonna get removed >_<

 

Lastdon, bankergolfer, play nice in the sandbox.
Your off-topic "debate" did not even belong in a separate topic - it should have been kept to private messages, if posted to NBR at all.

I'll determine whether removing the offending posts makes sense, or if they should be left up to show how immature you two have been.

EDIT: I've elected to simply stuff all the inappropriate discussion in spoiler-tags.

 

Agreed! Thanks.

 

Agreed! And sorry again about participating in a pointless debate and contributing to the off-topic hijack.

 

No worries, bankergolfer. We all make mistakes every now and again, me included.

 

Regarding purchasing the 3820TG from PCHome at a cost less than NT$33900, remember to read the translated descriptions carefully.

Some of the listed 3820TGs are open box items for sale, while others are brand new and being sold at a discounted price.

There doesn't appear to be any rhyme or reason as to when these open-box items show up. They could be selling off returned laptops that are perfectly fine, but that's just speculation on my part.

 

How are the refreshed version with the silver lid of the 3820tg's? Are they fingerprint magnet? I'm debating whether I should order one via pchome w/out warranty or just get a 4820tg. I read about the heat issues/throttling on the 4820tg but am trying to see if getting a notebook cooler will solve the issue. How does the silver lids look?

 

Silver lid looks great, 100X less of a fingerprint magnet. The picture on PCHome is overexposed so don't think it looks like that. It's about the same shade of grey as the palmrest area.

 

As of now, I am not seeing this.
Could you please be specific where on the sales page you see open box?
Most will not install another browser to translate, and Google toolbar does seem to translate most of the page, but am not sure if it misses the open box mention.

If you could state some pointers, such as where the info is (what is directly above and below) and the text color if possible. There is a lot of info displayed on the sales page. Maybe a screen capture of area on web page would show what we need to look out for.

For this unit, at this time, under notes at bottom of page, I think it shows that it is new in factory sealed box:

"User response to recent shipment of goods suspected of breaking the seal machines PChome ; curator in this statement : Acer Museum New models for the original shipment , part of the aircraft factory outside the box , in fact, place the bag and mouse factors, it has two Acer Green packing tape , confirmed as original new products supplier , is hereby declared ."

 

The last time I saw the text it was to the right of the main pic of the laptop in the sales ad. However, bear in mind that they can move the text around at their pleasure.

The text reads:
Please note: This product is opened the whole new machine, commodities may be a slight flaw or missing pieces, does not affect the function of goods have switched the entire new and re-packaging of goods Figure 『left indicate reference purposes only』,standard fittings actual ship-based. Special clearing, stand-alone sale! No additional purchase activity, no gifts. The original price of 33,900 yuan.

Anyway, I strongly recommend that anyone seeking to purchase from PCHome download and install Google's Chrome web browser.

It does an excellent job translating Chinese. Maybe 10% of the words seem out of place in the translation, but enough gets done correctly so that you get the gist of the message.

 

We probably have different monitors with different color calibrations. I see the pic of the 3820TG at PCHome has the lid and the palmrest having the exact same color of gray.

I've used one of the pics as my avatar.

 

Hi all

The text Bankergolfer refers to is up now, against an I5-430 model that PChome is selling for 26,200.

Also, I think they're out of stock of all unopened I5 models. Earlier today I was unable to add the I5-450 model (33,900) to my cart due to an untranslatable pop-up; now my search results appear to be automatically limited to a price range below 29,900 (suggesting that there's nothing available for more than that?). And no I5 models are mentioned at PChome¥þ²yÁʪ« - 3C À]º¶

Here's hoping stock is replenished in conjunction with one of the old sales (or that I'm just missing something and there's plenty of I5 models available on sale already)! Anyone with alternative explanations of the situation, please post (me want 3820tg)!

- Phobos, long time lurker, first time poster

 

Acer is refreshing the TimelineX lineup with new cpus that came out in Q3. for example the i3-370M is one of the new models pchome is carrying right now. Hopefully new i5s will arrive soon

 

Thank you.
I see the "Please note" section I think you are refering too in all of the current 3820TG models listed at PCHome. At this time, I don't think they are showing any as Open box, but I'm sure 5 minutes after I post they will list one that way. Another clue seems to be that all now do include the "Gifts".

Here is what most say:

Please note : This product is Windows 7 Premium 64 -bit, ( to use before buying, please make sure your peripheral and software (including games ) is to provide a compatible installer! ( users need on their own and neighboring or software vendors for installation program)

And in addition, some mention this thing about Ice Cream, which confuses the heck out of me, (current night sale: 3820TG-352G50n NT$27900)


Detailed specifications of the product
★ The models do not have the " drive "!! ★
< The models for the selection of sale merchandise , will not give it away ice cream coupon Activities >

Just sold my 17" Dell Inspiron 9200 and 8.9" Acer Aspire ONE over the weekend, so it's time to grab a deal.

 

What are you looking at? The PCHome website is showing quite a bit as open items.

If you type "3820TG" in the search box, it will list all the different variants for sale. A few of them are listed as open items.

 

It's kind of hard to understand what is going on in this thread without reading all 70 pages (which i sadly do not have time for.)

Could someone please give me a summary of the possible US purchase options.

Many thanks.

 

I would be happy too, although Capn Daft would prefer that you do a search or read the thread in its entirety.

Basically, you have 2 options if you're in the USA. Order from PCHome in Taiwan or order from Computeruniverse (or something to that effect) in Germany.

Both options will leave you with no warranty on your Acer laptop as you're importing them to the USA. You will also get a Win 7 OS in their respective foreign language, but that's no big deal as you can reinstall the OS in English.

The Taiwan option gives you a laptop with english and chinese characters on the same keyboard. The German option requires that you swap out the keyboard (German characters) with an English version.

I myself have used the Taiwan option to great success, as have many others. Fewer persons have used the German option (probably because of the keyboard swapping requirement), but also have enjoyed a successful outcome.

The Taiwan option also runs frequent sales on the 3820TG which amount to savings of $100 to $140 dollars on average. You can expect shipping to cost around $50, but it also includes any tariffs or import costs.

For the Taiwan option, you should install Google's Chrome web browser, as it is the best at translating chinese characters.

 

Computeruniverse will no longer ship to the US or Canada. The only real option at this time are the Taiwaneese shops. BTW, Bankergolfer, you forgot to mention the Vancouver store that will import the unit from its sister shop in Taiwan. They will issue a Canadian receipt for the unit and I think there is a better argument that Acer USA should honor the warranty. It costs about $200 more. I forget the name of the shop.

Bronsky

 

Thanks for the nice catch, Bronsky.

I think the Vancouver store is called EXPC.

For an extra $200 USD, there is a better chance of having Acer USA honor the warranty, but no explicit guarantee.

I've wondered why those in the US who import the laptop from Canada would get better warranty treatment than those who imported from Taiwan or Germany.