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    Acer 5920G Full Upgrade (GPU, CPU, HD, RAM)

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by philhxc, Oct 4, 2009.

  1. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    BTW I have found that generally for the 4650 type core:

    core voltage = max core speed
    1v = 600mhz
    1.1v = 675mhz
    1.2v = 750mhz
     
  2. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    @u6b36ef - Actually 5920G was shipped with CPUs up to T9300 (2.5GHz), just for letting you know.

    I have T9500 (SLAYX) and it's recognized in BIOS as well in Windows as T9500 running at 2.6GHz. From your post it's not absolutely clear does yours runs at correct speed (2.5GHz)? If yes, than you'd bought an ES CPU with fake stickers on it, which is not that bad (if the price is lower than a real SLAYY). If it runs at lower speed, than you must definitely return it.
     
  3. u6b36ef

    u6b36ef Notebook Consultant

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    @ Triturbo,

    It is running at 2.5GHz, and reporting 6MB L2 cache
    It shows in BIOS and system information, as T9300 at 2.5GHz.

    However it shows as ES in 'The Intel® Processor Identification Utility'.
    Intel® Processor Identification Utility — Intel® Processor Identification Utility download

    It also returns an Engineering Sample result in CPU-Z, Core Temp, and SisoftSandra.


    I had not known 5920 shipped in T9300 (**thankyou!**).

    I had also sent a photograph of the CPU and screenshot of the results to Intel EMEA. (Europe, Middle East, and Africa Support Center).

    I think this additional link could be useful to others looking for info before doing CPU upgrade. Processors — Information about Intel Engineering / Qualification Sample Processors

    This CPU must be a fake SLAYY sticker.

    U6b36ef.
     
  4. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    I guess you have bad taste in your mouth since you thought that you bought a SLAYY, while you end up with an ES Qxxx CPU. I feel for you, but really, if you paid less than what you're supposed to pay for OEM CPU, and the temp sensor works correctly, than there is nothing to worry about. You can still open a case if you wish to go that way, as this is false advertising.
     
  5. u6b36ef

    u6b36ef Notebook Consultant

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    Oddly, it didn't show Qxxx.

    In CPU-Z it showed,
    Name: Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo (name T9300 missing)
    Specification: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T9300 @ 2.5GHz (ES)

    'The Intel® Processor Identification Utility' displayed this message:
    "The following Intel® processor appears to be a an engineering sample, not a production processor. The utility is designed to support Intel production processors only. Sample processors are not warranted by Intel and are not intended for resale."

    SisoftSandra:
    Warning 225 --- CPU is not a production version but ES.

    There is no way I'm keeping it. It's going back in post this afternoon (your info helped). Case was started days ago. I tried everything to find out if it was a mistake, like in BIOS or coding, tried it in another machine.

    I think I am as stung by the time spent on it. I have amassed about six hours on Intel live chat alone, with Intel agents. (Much googling.)
     
  6. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    The only way to see the Qxxx mark, is to remove the sticker on the CPU itself, and that's if there is one in first place. I read about fake i7s (looking like the real deal) not too long ago, but nothing about C2Ds though.

    I can see that you draw the big guns :) Keep us posted.
     
  7. u6b36ef

    u6b36ef Notebook Consultant

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    @ Triturbo

    The ES CPU is long gone.

    Actually I wondered what voltage you are running your HD4670 at. Is it at the same as a HD4650, at 1.1v, or did you go lower?

    U6b36ef.
     
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    u6b36ef Notebook Consultant

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  9. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    What happened? Have you received a replacement?

    Yes, 1.1v, it can barely run a minute or two while gaming at 1.0v. I guess if I want 1.0v I'll have to drop the clocks a little, but I hadn't tried it since I don't want to :D

    Thanks a lot mate :)
     
  10. User Retired 2

    User Retired 2 Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Just a heads up - 5920G's pci-e port layout shows it can do a x2E DIY ViDock, so a HD5770@x2E or HD6850x2E would be possible. Can see indicative performance of such a setup, courtesy of JamesBond007:

    [email protected]+HD5770@x2E

    An option to consider over say a HD4670 internal MXM upgrade, which it would outperform. Not as mobile though and would require an external LCD.
     
  11. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Thanks for the heads-up it's much appreciated. When my HD4670 starts to choke I'll definitely consider it :) I have two PCI-E slots, one stays free (no TV tuner, Robson or else), so I can combine the free PCI-E with ExpressCard to get x2E, or I'll have to ditch the wireless as well?
     
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    If you do x2, then it combines port1+port2 and maintains your port4. If you do x2E (15-30% faster), then it sets port1 as a x4 port, knocking out your port4 in the process.

    I'd recommend a x2E link with an ATI card like a HD5770 or HD6850 for best performance on your system.
     
  13. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    If I get that right, at least there wont be need to pull the wireless out, and then to place it back in when I need it :)
     
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    User Retired 2 Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Based on the 5920G default port layout here, the wifi uses the default port4. So you are correct - no need to pull the wifi out to do a x2E link. Though it would be locked out since port1 would be running as a x4 link, using only port1+port2. (x2E mode). If wanted the wifi to work simultaneously as the DIY ViDock, then would need to downgrade the link to x2 and lose 15-30% graphics performance.
     
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    Partizan Notebook Deity

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    Hey guys is anyone else experiencing fan noise? I'm not sure its because I had to remove the heatsink and fan when re-applying thermal paste for my cpu, or wether its just getting old (bought it in oktober 2007).

    The noise is like this: rrrrrrrrrrr and when I put pressure on my laptop in the upper left corner, the noise goes away. But when I stop pressing in that corner, it goes 'rrrrrrrr' back again xD

    I haven't tried removing the heatsink & fan yet, since last time I didn't notice they were connected with a wire and almost pulled the wire out (you need to apply a lot of force to remove the heatsink & fan in my laptop, since I can't losen all screws decently).
     
  16. kiwitheiwik

    kiwitheiwik Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi Folks,

    I bought my 10-year old son a 5920G, and was really happy to learn of it's upgrade options from these forums. He's mad on flight simulators, so I wanted to give him the best graphics and highest speed achievable.

    With this in mind, I recently purchased a T9300, and have just received a Radeon Mobility HD 4670 (1GB) MXM-II to go along with it.

    Now - although I'm completely happy upgrading the components, I need some advice as to what I actually need in preparation. I'm far more at home with Macs (yes, possibly an evil word on these forums), as I've owned Apple Computers since 1982, but I'm really willing to learn...!

    I have already replaced the hard drive with a 320GB 7200 RPM unit (as the other drive had failed), and have given it a fresh install of Windows 7 Home Premium. Whereas there aren't too many issues when it comes to repairing Macs, after reading these pages I realise there's just so much to know in advance regarding bios flashing, undervolting and heat dissipation.

    I'm going to get some Arctic 5 thermal paste later today so I can make a start. I've also downloaded all the latest drivers from the Acer site. But I do have a stack of questions that I hope can be answered...

    * How do I create a boot disk that can get me out of trouble if the bios flash doesn't work?

    * Can I generate it on a USB memory stick and boot from that?

    * What is the process from having the GPU, CPU and laptop in front of me, to having a fully-functional and upgraded laptop?

    Thanks so much for any help in advance!
     
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    u6b36ef Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks for the links!

    CPU upgrade went very smoothly, and is around 40ºC idle and 70ºC under load.

    The GPU is another story though, I'm afraid, as I'm getting nothing but a black screen - although the computer boots up.

    I may need to blind flash the vbios - any suggestions as to how I may be able to do this, booting via a USB memory stick?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated!

    Cheers...


    - kiwitheiwik
     
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    u6b36ef Notebook Consultant

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    @ kiwitheiwik

    You have not mentioned which GPU you've bought. If it's compatible then you need to think that you have been scammed by whoever sold it to you. Since you mentioned the computer boots up, probably you have a compatible GPU. A switched on; 'non-boot', will give no windows sound.

    This link gives you idea of the GPU's which will fit.
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/acer/396320-acer-mxm-models-cards.html

    Either:
    1. Compatibilty.
    2. Faulty GPU.
    3 Temperature, (but I doubt it, as you might see something at first).

    You can 'Intenet search' your symptoms, as they will have been covered.

    U6b36ef.

    @ Triturbo,

    If you ever do decide to take out the wireless for graphics reasons, there may be a slight solution. (RE - Nando4's proposition). The wireless card can be fitted to one of these, and then maybe left on USB port. Please see USBMA link.
    USBMA

    Read carefully though. Check compatibility, different wireless cards need different card adapters. There is a compatiblity chart on the website.

    U6b36ef.
     
  20. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Thats pretty nice find, thanks. Though I'm more towards Alfa 2000mW with 5 or 9dBi antenna, since it's b/g/n and it's Back Track 4 compatible :)
     
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    raserdk Notebook Geek

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    just upgraded my acer aspire 5920 with a new cpu, it had a t5450 1,66 ghz
    now its with a t9300 , 2,5ghz
    i have orderd cdrom to hdd caddy, so i can i have an extra hdd in it instead,
    and a new wireless card Atheros AR5008,

    next will be the ram i think, and the when i have saved up some money maybe another gfx,
    the harddrive ill take from my other laptop, wich is a 320gb wd 7200 rpm sata drive
     
  22. u6b36ef

    u6b36ef Notebook Consultant

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    @ Triturbo, + everyone Acer:

    Edit:--------
    I thought I had put a link in here for a website which has the remotes. Maybe I forgot to put it in or the moderators removed it. (I think there is someting in the rules about not advertising.) Shame because it does expand the userbility of the Acer Aspire 5920. (This thread is about upgrades for the 5920.) The remotes are a cool add on. Otherwise eBay.
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    This should work for the 5920. There is a compatibilty list which omits the 5920. I bet it works though. Looking at the list of the rest of the compatible models assures that it will work for the 5920. (All models that have a CIR receiver.)

    In my experience Acer use all the same signals in each remote control model. I.E. any Acer remote will operate any Acer laptop. The RC804V-B remote which I mentioned (12-18-2010, 08:38 PM to you) on this thread, operates 5920, 8920, 9920. Also another model Acer remote I had fully operates the same three laptops. [Additionally, if you buy a universal remote for TV's there is only one programmable code. That supports the idea that Acer use the same signals on all remotes.

    This RC804V-B looks identical to the remote in the link I included here (except for colour). I can't recommend the retailer from this link as I have never know them. If you're considering a remote though, they operate all the multimedia stuff, and sleep and wake. The numbered buttons operate TV if you have a card fitted.
     
  23. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Thanks for the research that you have done :)
     
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