Acer Aspire TimelineX 1830T Thread

hi. Don't know if it's the right place to ask, but does anyone know where the timelineX 1830T core i5 is in stock in the US. Could be any webstore or any shops around Cary or Raleigh,North Carolina or in Washington D.C.

Thanks

 

Nowhere in the US now.
Frys had a few left for in-store sales last week. But they are gone.

I don't think you will ever get to touch one before you buy.
But if you wait a couple months, some stores might stock the i3 version
which is the same physical unit. Don't know why, but stores
seem to be avoiding 11.6" machines that are not Atom-based netbooks.
Must be a marketing decision.

Best bet is to check daily at Amazon, TigerDirect, NewEgg, etc
for shipments in a week or two.

 

According to this test:
Notebookcheck: Test Sony Vaio VPC-Y21S1E Subnotebook
the U5400 is a bit faster than the old SU7300, slightly slower than the i3-330UM in multi-threaded tasks, but the same single-threaded performance.
With my i3-330UM SC2 was fine with everything @ low and 1360*768 and ~20-35fps in average situations. When you get to intense action with lower fps, dropping the resolution might help out. If you spend some more time and tweak SC2 and the graphics driver, the results might be improved. The U5400 should not be that much worse.
If you don't mind 2005 graphics and slight stutter at times, this laptop will suite you fine. A Core i5 will probably boost the results a bit (no telling how much), but will cost a lot more as well.

I'm currently installing MSI Afterburner and Kombustor (as I know them from my desktop HD5770 Hawk I use them and not the original programs ) and also the new Intel driver (22 July) and CPU Usage Limiter.
Edit: or no MSI stuff. Fails, probably because of the non-MSI nature of the IGP. Going to try some other programs.

 

You should be able to monitor the CPU load during the 3D benchmark. You may be able to monitor the task manager or you could record the data using Windows Performance Monitor.

I think you explained it superbly. You've confirmed that you are forcing the graphics to operate at a lower frequency independent of thermal load. I think the more interesting question is how does the graphics perform under different thermal loads (when it is not configured by power control to operate at a lower frequency).

Maybe monitoring some temperature data (i.e. CoreTemp or similar) might be useful to gauge the thermal conditions of the system while under test if you are interested in understanding the relationship between max CPU performance, max thermal load and max graphics performance.

Excellent find. I was looking for something like this. In fact I believe this provides the "backup" that you were looking for when schmitt stated:

Section 2.1 (Power Sharing Theory of Operation) explains the trade-off. I think the claim shared by schmitt seems reasonable. That claim is that if a game uses CPU heavily then the game won't realize the full potential of the dynamic graphics potential. The whitepaper was enough to satisfy my curiosity to confirm this but I suppose one could do more benchmarks under the CPU load to quantify the trade-off. In the end it will depend on your game of choice so one might as well test the specific game setup if they are curious. Thanks for the find on the white paper, Death666Angel.

 

3D Mark won't allow me to run in windowed mode to check real time CPU utilization, so I have to record the data. Haven't done that so far, but I'll try and look into it.
As for the trade-off between CPU and GPU under load mentioned in the whitepaper, it is like schmitt (and notebookcheck) said to some extend, yes. But the whitepaper is a bit casual in its description of some things I think (or I am just bad at reading it). I think it mostly talks about CPU turbo mode vs GPU turbo mode, so I am not that sure a non-turbo mode CPU like the i3-330UM would be that badly effected. And again, my Core i7 turbo mode kicks in regardless of energy concerns, as long as the temperature is below ~85°C (at which point it throttles)....
To that end I am trying to make some real life observations, to satisfy my own curiosity and maybe help out some people who are wondering the same thing.
It seems that Everest can read out varying GPU clocks, sweet! I'll see what I can up about all of this. Just as a quick first note, the GPU has discrete clocks between 166 and 500MHz.

 

Thanks, webshops would be fine with me. I actually have seen the core i3 in B&H in New York, so know how it looks and feel. Just like the specs on the core i5 better for only $100 more. Shame that noone has it as it is not available in Denmark or Europe(I think).

 

My new replacement 1830T just arrived. Acer took my 6200 card so I am going to add the 5100 from my 3810t.

 

newegg ETA is Monday.
Newegg.com - Acer Aspire TimelineX AS1830T-3721 Black Intel Core i5 430UM(1.20GHz) 11.6" 4GB Memory 500GB HDD Netbook

 

Acer 1830 in Europe:
i5-520 Acer Aspire TimelineX 1830T-52U4G32n Preisvergleich bei gh.de (geizhals.at) EU
i5-430 Acer Aspire TimelineX 1830T-5434G32nki (LX.PTV02.046) Preisvergleich bei gh.de (geizhals.at) EU
And one of my favorite (German) shops:
ALTERNATE - NOTEBOOK - Notebook - Acer - Acer Aspire TimelineX 1830T-52U4G32n
They have great service, easy sending back of items for money back and/or warranty stuff. They also ship everywhere .

 

Is it possible to OC the CPU in these models? Also, thank you Death666Angel for answering my questions.

 

I haven't seen anyone being able to OC this thing. I have SetFSB, but apart from launching it once, haven't bothered. I am more interested in undervolting, but RMClock doesn't recognize my i3-330UM. I tried Crystal CPUID, which seems to work, but only undervolts it marginally to .875V, which results in actual .9V, down from .925V if I am not mistaken (those numbers are from memory). No measurable decrease in power consumption using LinX.

 

Well I could be wrong, but isn't RMClock pretty outdated now?

 

It is. Afaik there hasn't been any work on it since 2006, but it still worked for the Core 2 Duo models, which it didn't "support" as well.

 

If that is true, then the stores are stupid. The fact that the i5 Acer 1830T is hard to find is proof of that. A full muscle notebook packed in a netbook size! It's the perfect mobile machine. The Atom based netbooks are worthless; not enough memory, disk space, connectivity or processor power for anything but net surfing. As Steve Jobs said, ".. not good for anything but sitting in the head surfing..." or words to that effect.

 

Mate...maybe you're just trying to breath some life into this thread, but I'll take the bait...

My Atom based 2G HP5102 manages a bit more than surfing. Its my mobile office and handles Office apps, project, email, Skype, jukebox, playing DVD's and as you say browing with ease. And it came with more disk space then the i3 1830T. Sure it doesn't do CAD, compile fast or play HD - looking forward to gaining that when I can get my hands on an 1830T. Hoping the touch pad, speakers, glossy screen don't make me regret it.

N.

 

I vote marketing decision; they probably fear that the general public will look at the size of the 1830T versus other netbooks, and deduce them the same or close to the same, and choose to buy the "better value". I mean, the netbooks are clocked at 1.66Ghz versus the 1.2Ghz Core i3... but really, the performance differences are on different planes.

Then they'll look at the price and probably figure they don't want to pay the price of a full-sized notebook. I think that forces the 1830T into a niche, that only those of us who're informed, and care about such performance in a unique form factor, would be willing to delve into.

But I must say, I recently got mine, and it was worth every cent.

 

Does anyone know what a good case/sleeve is for this model?

 

Yea... our niche here is like a private club.
Small hot machines.

But not just that...
Small hot and inexpensive machines.
Most computer buyers just do not appreciate.
So there seems to be no reason for manufacturers
to push this small&hot category because so many
buyers still think larger displays are better.

Easy to understand the reluctance of manufacturers,especially Acer and Asus,
to jump into this small&hot&inexpensive category.

 

I use a black 10.2" Tuari sleeve. I got mine at target for $12. It fits perfect. They recently got some with front pockets, but they are slightly smaller and the neoprene doesn't stretch as much. My 11.6" Acer fit in it but it was a little tight so I decided to take that one back.

 

i just got my i3 1830t and noticed it is almost impossible to use the two finger scroll or even the one finger scroll on the right side of the trackpad. Does anyone have this same problem?

 

^^^
The trackpad took me a bit of time to get used to, but I can still use the scroll features you mentioned on the right side.

I use the Zeroshock III for 10.1" notebooks. The main guy on ebay, yap2528, who's been selling them since at least '08 (I think they're imported from Japan) recommended that size, so I went with it. It's really good too! And it fits perfectly; I love it.

Zeroshock III

 

I use the Sumdex 13 inch netbook bag for my 1830T. It's a tad bigger than the 10 inch netbook cases, fits the 1830T nicely with a second pocket for a wireless mouse, VGA cables and the power supply plug. Available at Fry's.

FRYS.com|SUMDEX (PON-306BK)

 

Well, the touch pad is worthless, (use Microsoft 4000 wireless mouse), the speakers nearly so (get that little amp for ear phones, works great!), the screen is fine. So be forewarned before you buy.

 

The advent of large LCD monitors with HDMI connections has changed the landscape for notebooks. You don't need a freak'in 17 inch notebook to lug around any more. When you need a big screen, you plug the Acer 1830T into your home video system. When you need to be mobile, you go with the small screen, which is very clean and clear. But underneath you have a fully blown notebook powered PC; you just don't have to lug all that weight around anymore. I think the buyers are smarter than you give them credit for; its the stores that are not keeping up with the new wave. Fry's is pretty good; they got the Acer in the first place, but Best Buy is way behind the times.

 

Yeah, having a secondary monitor to plug in to for desk work is the way to go.

@ Above posters.

Does a 10.1" sleeve really fit an 11.6" laptop? (I'm from Canada so I kinda need Canadian stores or Ebay)

Also does this thing max out at 4GB or 8?

 

I absolutely agree. Perhaps I am a little pessimistic about buyers because of those like my friends and family members. However, I'm pretty sure if Best Buy employees would explain such benefits of getting an 1830T over other small notebooks, that consumers would feel pretty hyped.

The laptop case I listed fits it, for certain. Any larger and it would be able to slide around moreso than it already does (which isn't much).

I can't speak for 10.1" sleeves in general, but I was suspicious at first too. This is why I was willing to go with the sleeve I purchased, because it specifically said "fits Acer TimelineX 1830T" (so that if it didn't I'd have a right to complain).

 

Yes, I also have a 10.1" Case Logic that fits the 1830T snuggly. And it tops out at 8GB.

 

Are you sure about the ear phones?I had the chance to listen to an 1830T.As you pointed out the speakers are pathetic.But when I used earphones I couldn't set the volume over 30% without damaging my ears.They were very loud without amplifier.

 

Looks like I'll go with the Zeroshock. Thank you.

 

My experience with my i3 1830t is that both the speakers and headphones are on the quiet side. The quality is actually half decent for a laptop (I'm no audiophile, however) but they don't get very loud even at 100%. Even with my "sound insulating" ear phones it was hard to hear parts of a movie on a plane. Haven't tried an amp yet as others have described but I have used Total Media Theatre's built in "amp" option to boost the audio to a satisfactory level.

 

Hi everyone. Thanks for your help. It is still not possible to order the 1830t from newegg. They also had an ETA of 5/8, but then changed it to 9/8 that day. Still not available though. Guess I have to order it from germany although it cost $920 with a smaller hard drive.

 

Newegg has really missed the boat on the new TimelineXs. For the past month, Microcenter has been selling every 4820TG that they could lay their hands on. Wat up wit dat Newegg? They should have the 1830T in its I5 version as well as the 4820TG in its I5 version as well.

Bronsky

 

Posting this from Ubuntu, so nice to be be rid of the Broadcom.

 

I am a owner of a 4820TG, this thread is seriously making me change my mind to get a 1830T instead of the new Asus Asus EEE PC 1215N.

I second what Bronsky said, the Microcenter near my home has been selling alot of 4820TG. I had to preorder mine and pick it up after 1 week. And today its out of stock again.

 

It is nice that broadcom is now out for me as well. Switched to intel 6200 - hello 5GHz

Sucks living in a saturated neighborhood. I pick up over 50 2.4GHz signals. 5GHz is the only reliable way for me to use wifi.

On another note - I am upgrading from a 1410 and this thing is just worlds faster.

Couldn't figure out to go with the i3 or i5, but ultimately settled for the i3. Not sure if I'll regret it, but I am happy so far. The build quality is nice, the display looks better than my old 1410, and I like the textured lid.

First things I did was replace the hard drive with a SSD and upgrade the wifi. Next up will probably move to 64bit OS and upgrade to 4 or 8gb of ram.

For now, I think I am happy.

 

Tiger Direct has them. Got to their site and search a180-116* to see what they have in stock. Looks like they have the i3 and i5 in stock right now.

 

Yes... and the i5 model is at $669, not the original $699.
Bing cash back is no longer available.
But you can create an account at FatWallet.com
to get 5% cash back for TigerDirect purchases.
Your final cost for the i5 will be $636.50 plus $8 shipping. (to CA)

FatWallet is one of the original "deals" sites.
Well established, and no tricks.
I've benefited for years using their cash back feature.

 

Does anyone know where I can get the newest GMA drivers for the 1830T? I downloaded the ones from Intel but it says that the drivers aren't validated for usage on my laptop. (I have the U5400 instead of the Core i3/i5) Did you uninstall the default drivers first or?

 

Here, download 32 or 64 bit for your OS. The 7/22 drivers are good, they raised my WEI score to where it was before I inserted my ssd.

 

Weird, had to uninstall the older driver to install the latest one. Not on the same topic, but does anyone know where I can get a US or JP Keyboard for the 1830? Ebay?

 

i am looking at purchasing this laptop and was wondering this as well, apparently you can swap in an 1810T US keyboard into your 1830T(Z)

question for you, how do you find your U5400 1830TZ? i'm strongly leaning towards purchasing the U5400 over the i3-330UM because it's $100 cheaper and the biggest difference between the two processors seems to be HyperThreading. and is yours brown in colour?

 

Actually both Tigerdirect(compusa) and B&H have them now. I ordered one from B&H yesterday with express shipping hoping they would send today so it would be delivered tomorrow. However they wanted an phone call confirmation first before shipping and I wasn't home all day today, so it hasn't been shipped. I'm leaving the US thursday noon, so doubt it can be delivered before if they ship it tomorrow. Well, it's just bad luck that they go on stock 2 days before I go home and then I have problems with my order...

 

DirectCanada has the U5400 for $535 with tax, that's where I got it; and yes, it is brown. So I should just order a US keyboard from Ebay? Its not hard to swap them right?

 

...and now even NewEgg has the i5 ($679).

N.

 

I ask this elsewhere but am thinking I should get as much exposure...

1810TZ vs. 1830T - specifically:
SU4100 vs. U5400

Both are more than powerful enough for me and I can find both for pretty much the same price. Only factor is BATTERY. Reviewers have stated the 1810TZ gets 8+ hours regular usage. Does the 1830T maintain that performance or does it follow the iCores and is battery life not as good? There are no reviews of the U5400 1830T.

SU4100 is 10 watt
U5400 is 18 watt

but as Chazeturkey has pointed out, one must take the integrated graphics into account.

This TDP value includes power dissipated by integrated graphics controller, and the TDP for the CPU cores alone is less than 11 Watt.

 

The U5400 is not less power demanding than the "slowest" i3 this CPU is derived from. So if you find a review for the 1830 with i3, then you can assume a U5400 powered system has the same battery life (given batteries with the same capacities are used).

Michael

 

for some reason, when i try to install, it says that i'm using the wrong version...

"the driver being installed is not validated for this computer. Please obtain the appropriate driver from the computer manufacturer. Setup with exit."

i have acer 1830t win 7 64 bit

this is the right one right?

file name: Win7Vista_64_15179.exe

Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator Driver for Windows 7* 64 and Windows Vista* 64 (exe)

Installs graphics driver version 15.17.9.64.2182 (8.15.10.2182) for Intel® integrated graphics.

tia

 

why does my acer aspire 1830t timelinex laptop say this?

Imageshack - 18803689.jpg

says the designed capacity for the battery is 62640 mHw

but fully charged it only gets 59400mHw

???

 

I have BatteryBar and it says my capacity is 59,400mWh. However, it also says on the bottom Battery Wear is 5.2% of 62,640mWh. So, I'm thinking it is this "5.2%" wear.

 

Yes that is it.